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He Would not make any of our local teams, not even icc or whatever they are called these days

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He got little service. Lewnadoski or Harry Kane would have struggled to score if they played for Nigeria today.


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Abi no free-throws abi PKs for him to score in this game. How any coach can give that guy 70+ minutes is beyond me. Rohr stubborn sha, let Simy another useless player score one or two goals Rohr go call am again sharp sharp, who knows what he sees in these tall subpar strikers.

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Onuachu is a basketball player that somehow missed his way and found himself playing football.


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He got little service. Lewnadoski or Harry Kane would have struggled to score if they played for Nigeria today.


It’s not about scoring he couldn’t hold on to the ball or connect with his teammates. The ball was sticking more with Kelechi and sticks even more with Osimhen and they are able to control the ball under pressure or find quick accurate one touch passes to keep the ball cycling rather than losing it constantly putting us back under pressure. Then he is slow and lumbering so can’t keep up with our fast attacks, he’s also not really good at using his height advantage. It’s so weird he should be dominating in the air, he does not.

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He got little service. Lewnadoski or Harry Kane would have struggled to score if they played for Nigeria today.


It’s not about scoring he couldn’t hold on to the ball or connect with his teammates. The ball was sticking more with Kelechi and sticks even more with Osimhen and they are able to control the ball under pressure or find quick accurate one touch passes to keep the ball cycling rather than losing it constantly putting us back under pressure. Then he is slow and lumbering so can’t keep up with our fast attacks, he’s also not really good at using his height advantage. It’s so weird he should be dominating in the air, he does not.
You also need to call out all those lamenting why he was not called up ahead of Dessers "because he is keeping Dessers on the bench at their club"; :idea:

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olu wrote:
He got little service. Lewnadoski or Harry Kane would have struggled to score if they played for Nigeria today.


It’s not about scoring he couldn’t hold on to the ball or connect with his teammates. The ball was sticking more with Kelechi and sticks even more with Osimhen and they are able to control the ball under pressure or find quick accurate one touch passes to keep the ball cycling rather than losing it constantly putting us back under pressure. Then he is slow and lumbering so can’t keep up with our fast attacks, he’s also not really good at using his height advantage. It’s so weird he should be dominating in the air, he does not.
You also need to call out all those lamenting why he was not called up ahead of Dessers "because he is keeping Dessers on the bench at their club"; :idea:


Maybe he works better for his club doesn’t mean he should automatically get the nod over Dessers who might end up fitting better into the SE...Iheanacho has been a ball boy all season but is clearly a better quality player than the NBA subparstar...he's had enough chances, give others a chance haba, Sadiq Umar dey there, he's tall too, he was scoring too, why can't he even make the stand-by list. You only have to see Onuachu once or twice to realize he doesn't belong...why persist?

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maceo4 wrote:
Damunk wrote:
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olu wrote:
He got little service. Lewnadoski or Harry Kane would have struggled to score if they played for Nigeria today.


It’s not about scoring he couldn’t hold on to the ball or connect with his teammates. The ball was sticking more with Kelechi and sticks even more with Osimhen and they are able to control the ball under pressure or find quick accurate one touch passes to keep the ball cycling rather than losing it constantly putting us back under pressure. Then he is slow and lumbering so can’t keep up with our fast attacks, he’s also not really good at using his height advantage. It’s so weird he should be dominating in the air, he does not.
You also need to call out all those lamenting why he was not called up ahead of Dessers "because he is keeping Dessers on the bench at their club"; :idea:


Maybe he works better for his club doesn’t mean he should automatically get the nod over Dessers who might end up fitting better into the SE...Iheanacho has been a ball boy all season but is clearly a better quality player than the NBA subparstar...he's had enough chances, give others a chance haba, Sadiq Umar dey there, he's tall too, he was scoring too, why can't he even make the stand-by list. You only have to see Onuachu once or twice to realize he doesn't belong...why persist?



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:49 am 
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maceo4 wrote:
olu wrote:
He got little service. Lewnadoski or Harry Kane would have struggled to score if they played for Nigeria today.


It’s not about scoring he couldn’t hold on to the ball or connect with his teammates. The ball was sticking more with Kelechi and sticks even more with Osimhen and they are able to control the ball under pressure or find quick accurate one touch passes to keep the ball cycling rather than losing it constantly putting us back under pressure. Then he is slow and lumbering so can’t keep up with our fast attacks, he’s also not really good at using his height advantage. It’s so weird he should be dominating in the air, he does not.


He lost his marker for our goal.

The guy who beat him in the air is much smaller.

Onuachu is a wastepipe.

Make nobody mention his name again.

I don't care if he is top scorer in Belgium or the moon.

He is not a fit for SE PERIOD.


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He needs to work harder. I didn't like how he kept drifting into offside positions. Also poor hold up play. We don't have good crossers in the team. So I don't see the value of having Onauchu in the teram

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maceo4 wrote:
olu wrote:
He got little service. Lewnadoski or Harry Kane would have struggled to score if they played for Nigeria today.


It’s not about scoring he couldn’t hold on to the ball or connect with his teammates. The ball was sticking more with Kelechi and sticks even more with Osimhen and they are able to control the ball under pressure or find quick accurate one touch passes to keep the ball cycling rather than losing it constantly putting us back under pressure. Then he is slow and lumbering so can’t keep up with our fast attacks, he’s also not really good at using his height advantage. It’s so weird he should be dominating in the air, he does not.


:thumbs:

Nothing more to add.

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maceo4 wrote:
Damunk wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
olu wrote:
He got little service. Lewnadoski or Harry Kane would have struggled to score if they played for Nigeria today.


It’s not about scoring he couldn’t hold on to the ball or connect with his teammates. The ball was sticking more with Kelechi and sticks even more with Osimhen and they are able to control the ball under pressure or find quick accurate one touch passes to keep the ball cycling rather than losing it constantly putting us back under pressure. Then he is slow and lumbering so can’t keep up with our fast attacks, he’s also not really good at using his height advantage. It’s so weird he should be dominating in the air, he does not.
You also need to call out all those lamenting why he was not called up ahead of Dessers "because he is keeping Dessers on the bench at their club"; :idea:


Maybe he works better for his club doesn’t mean he should automatically get the nod over Dessers who might end up fitting better into the SE...Iheanacho has been a ball boy all season but is clearly a better quality player than the NBA subparstar...he's had enough chances, give others a chance haba, Sadiq Umar dey there, he's tall too, he was scoring too, why can't he even make the stand-by list. You only have to see Onuachu once or twice to realize he doesn't belong...why persist?
I agree with you 100%
I'm just pointing out how everyone seems to know better until proven otherwise and will call into question the intelligence of anyone that has a different perspective.
Those experts calling for "Onuachu before Dessers" are now mysteriously silent. :lol:

Apart from Kanu and Ibrahimovic, I cant think of any really tall strikers that I've admired.

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Damunk wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
Damunk wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
olu wrote:
He got little service. Lewnadoski or Harry Kane would have struggled to score if they played for Nigeria today.


It’s not about scoring he couldn’t hold on to the ball or connect with his teammates. The ball was sticking more with Kelechi and sticks even more with Osimhen and they are able to control the ball under pressure or find quick accurate one touch passes to keep the ball cycling rather than losing it constantly putting us back under pressure. Then he is slow and lumbering so can’t keep up with our fast attacks, he’s also not really good at using his height advantage. It’s so weird he should be dominating in the air, he does not.
You also need to call out all those lamenting why he was not called up ahead of Dessers "because he is keeping Dessers on the bench at their club"; :idea:


Maybe he works better for his club doesn’t mean he should automatically get the nod over Dessers who might end up fitting better into the SE...Iheanacho has been a ball boy all season but is clearly a better quality player than the NBA subparstar...he's had enough chances, give others a chance haba, Sadiq Umar dey there, he's tall too, he was scoring too, why can't he even make the stand-by list. You only have to see Onuachu once or twice to realize he doesn't belong...why persist?
I agree with you 100%
I'm just pointing out how everyone seems to know better until proven otherwise and will call into question the intelligence of anyone that has a different perspective.
Those experts calling for "Onuachu before Dessers" are now mysteriously silent. :lol:

Apart from Kanu and Ibrahimovic, I cant think of any really tall strikers that I've admired.


Fernando Llorente is not bad but he is too inconsistent.

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In my view, Onuachu was not particularly bad but the chances for him to be successful given the way Nigeria played was indeed low. You could see that he is effective when the ball was in the air and reachable. Yet, very few of those opportunities occurred and surprisingly the set pieces were not particularly aimed at him. Instead, the set pieces appeared to be directed at the back end seeking a runner from deep. Onuachu was mostly positioned at the front end, if I remember correctly. In my view, those are things that they can work work on. However, you wonder if that is what Rohr is concerned about given his recent talk where he indicated that the team does/would not vary its game because of a particular player. I remember, for instance, how Nigeria scored a lot in the air with Agali simply because Amodu worked particularly on this aspect. Agali was not good with the ball on the ground but was devastating in the air. Thus, in my view, it all depends on the manager and his strategy working with such a player.

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In my view, Onuachu was not particularly bad but the chances for him to be successful given the way Nigeria played was indeed low. You could see that he is effective when the ball was in the air and reachable. Yet, very few of those opportunities occurred and surprisingly the set pieces were not particularly aimed at him. Instead, the set pieces appeared to be directed at the back end seeking a runner from deep. Onuachu was mostly positioned at the front end, if I remember correctly. In my view, those are things that they can work work on. However, you wonder if that is what Rohr is concerned about given his recent talk where he indicated that the team does/would not vary its game because of a particular player. I remember, for instance, how Nigeria scored a lot in the air with Agali simply because Amodu worked particularly on this aspect. Agali was not good with the ball on the ground but was devastating in the air. Thus, in my view, it all depends on the manager and his strategy working with such a player.



It sounds like you agree that Rohr is the problem


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In my view, Onuachu was not particularly bad but the chances for him to be successful given the way Nigeria played was indeed low. You could see that he is effective when the ball was in the air and reachable. Yet, very few of those opportunities occurred and surprisingly the set pieces were not particularly aimed at him. Instead, the set pieces appeared to be directed at the back end seeking a runner from deep. Onuachu was mostly positioned at the front end, if I remember correctly. In my view, those are things that they can work work on. However, you wonder if that is what Rohr is concerned about given his recent talk where he indicated that the team does/would not vary its game because of a particular player. I remember, for instance, how Nigeria scored a lot in the air with Agali simply because Amodu worked particularly on this aspect. Agali was not good with the ball on the ground but was devastating in the air. Thus, in my view, it all depends on the manager and his strategy working with such a player.



It sounds like you agree that Rohr is the problem


ANC,

On Onuachu, yes. However, inspite of that, I will not pass a judgment yet on Rohr. That judgment will be dependent on outcomes in significant tournaments and not just after a friendly game.

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The so called basketballer don hang another basket today o!

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The so called basketballer don hang another basket today o!


The defending was comical. He was completely unmarked and the Genk attacker had all the time in the world to pick him out with a pinpoint cross.

No way he gets that amount of space or time in an international match.

Onuachu remains one dimensional and not a fit for SE whether he scores a million club goals or not.

We should be looking at Josh Maja and Terrem Moffitt who are playing and scoring in superior leagues and have much more to offer.


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The so called basketballer don hang another basket today o!



To quote the late Amodu RIP. He can score in the moon but he will never play for the Super Eagles.

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He got little service. Lewnadoski or Harry Kane would have struggled to score if they played for Nigeria today.


I would not write him off after a one average performance, but what service did Nacho get?

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I won't write him off yet. Most of the games he has started for Nigeria we have created very few chances. Against Algeria we had an inactive midfield. Similarly, in the CAN game against Burundi in which he started Mikel was the AM, and our build-up play in that game was labored and slow. I'm almost certain his performance against Algeria would have been better if we had our regular midfield trio of Ndidi, Aribo, and Iwobi on the pitch.

He does not have the ability to drift out wide or chase down every lose ball like Osimhen, so he needs balls fed to him to be effective.


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I won't write him off yet. Most of the games he has started for Nigeria we have created very few chances. Against Algeria we had an inactive midfield. Similarly, in the CAN game against Burundi in which he started Mikel was the AM, and our build-up play in that game was labored and slow. I'm almost certain his performance against Algeria would have been better if we had our regular midfield trio of Ndidi, Aribo, and Iwobi on the pitch.

He does not have the ability to drift out wide or chase down every lose ball like Osimhen, so he needs balls fed to him to be effective.

Put Ndidi, Aribo, Iwobi/Ejaria in that midfield and Onuachu will score goals, I won't write him off yet till he plays with a more balanced squad... even prime Ronaldo will struggle with that garbage makeshift midfield we put out in the friendly matches.


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I won't write him off yet. Most of the games he has started for Nigeria we have created very few chances. Against Algeria we had an inactive midfield. Similarly, in the CAN game against Burundi in which he started Mikel was the AM, and our build-up play in that game was labored and slow. I'm almost certain his performance against Algeria would have been better if we had our regular midfield trio of Ndidi, Aribo, and Iwobi on the pitch.

He does not have the ability to drift out wide or chase down every lose ball like Osimhen, so he needs balls fed to him to be effective.

Put Ndidi, Aribo, Iwobi/Ejaria in that midfield and Onuachu will score goals, I won't write him off yet till he plays with a more balanced squad... even prime Ronaldo will struggle with that garbage makeshift midfield we put out in the friendly matches.


The only time he’s scored was with a makeshift team, he’s played with the starters and caused no treat to the like of lowly Burundi and had zero threat until he was subbed. I don’t know how many chances he needs, worse yet is choosing him over players playing in better leagues.

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