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Rohr out!
Head to Head Sierra Leone won this. Home and away, SL would have qualified to the next round. I cant believe this!
Sorry its time to go Rohr!
Sorry its time to go Rohr!
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There is still time to fix things. But the first step should be to remove both Rohr and Pinnick. Hopefully Nigeria can be lucky to get a young up and coming coach that want to make a name for himself.
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Nigeria should have fired Rohr after the WC. If Rohr had been a Nigerian they would have fired him. That is the most disappointing part about this saga.
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Yes, SL won this double encounter. I had thought otherwise.Undertaker wrote:SL was the better team! 4 away goals!
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
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ohenhen1 wrote:Nigeria should have fired Rohr after the WC. If Rohr had been a Nigerian they would have fired him. That is the most disappointing part about this saga.
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Rohr has the best win ratio of any Nigerian coach! Rohr must stay!
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Amunike or/and Ndubuisi Egbo have got to be contacted ASAP, I rather we succeed and fail with our own... Algeria did the same with Belmadi and we can now see how well it has turned out for the better.
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Assuming this was a 2 legged affair where the winner progresses to the next round, Nigeria would have been knocked out! I can't believe SL came out better over two games! It is seriously time to refresh things
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Leave Rohr alone.Tobi17 wrote:Amunike or/and Ndubuisi Egbo have got to be contacted ASAP, I rather we succeed and fail with our own... Algeria did the same with Belmadi and we can now see how well it has turned out for the better.
We need to change or jersey to the one with a lucky charm
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The new jersey is causing us confusion....wanaj0 wrote:Leave Rohr alone.Tobi17 wrote:Amunike or/and Ndubuisi Egbo have got to be contacted ASAP, I rather we succeed and fail with our own... Algeria did the same with Belmadi and we can now see how well it has turned out for the better.
We need to change or jersey to the one with a lucky charm
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I like the away white kit.
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Are you sure the white it is away jersey? So the green is the home jersey yet we didn't wore it on Friday? The whole thing is more confusing than the useless team formation!ohenhen1 wrote:I like the away white kit.
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I wouldn't be in a hurry to fire Rohr if I were part of the NFF. Finish out the qualifiers then reassess. If we're firing Rohr to bring in Amunike, Ebgo, or Finidi then I have my concerns due to their inexperience. If we're firing Rohr and bringing in someone with great coaching pedigree and experience on the African or international level then I'm ok with that.
Teams have been impacted differently by the long period of inactivity caused by COVID, and I really feel like the inactive period has affected us more than some teams. For example a team like Liverpool was flying high before COVID and hasn't looked nearly as invincible since the restart, same goes for Manchester City to a lesser degree. On the other hand Manchester United seemed to improve last season after the restart and are now back to their mediocre pre-COVID form.
Our home loss to SA in the last CAN qualifiers came under somewhat similar circumstances. That loss was after the players had come back not playing together for an extended period with a few key players missing.
Teams have been impacted differently by the long period of inactivity caused by COVID, and I really feel like the inactive period has affected us more than some teams. For example a team like Liverpool was flying high before COVID and hasn't looked nearly as invincible since the restart, same goes for Manchester City to a lesser degree. On the other hand Manchester United seemed to improve last season after the restart and are now back to their mediocre pre-COVID form.
Our home loss to SA in the last CAN qualifiers came under somewhat similar circumstances. That loss was after the players had come back not playing together for an extended period with a few key players missing.
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Abeg stop this nonsense. There is still time is what we have been saying for the last years, if it's a Nigerian coach they would have sack him.ohenhen1 wrote:There is still time to fix things. But the first step should be to remove both Rohr and Pinnick. Hopefully Nigeria can be lucky to get a young up and coming coach that want to make a name for himself.
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And Musa but I know whatever happens we are going to end up with an incompetent NFF and they are going to cut corners and appoint a weak coach so for now this is our lot!ohenhen1 wrote:There is still time to fix things. But the first step should be to remove both Rohr and Pinnick. Hopefully Nigeria can be lucky to get a young up and coming coach that want to make a name for himself.
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Pa Rohr still dey learn? 
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Rohr, though part of the problem is less of it.
Our main problem is not having sense of what our collective task is with regards football.
First, we fail to acknowledge that we are not the only country trying to better our team, thus
making us get arrogant about the competition. Our officials also add to the problem with their
lack of sense of place, and meddling with the team instead of focusing on doing their part.
Also the players truly lack team discipline, and sometimes go for personal glory instead of playing
for the team.
Lastly, some of us fans refuse to acknowledge the fact that there are not many minnows in the game.
Fans believe the SE have a right to victory, and fail to see when some of the popular players are the
main culprits with regards team discipline. In short politics and popularity seems to drive most of the
discussions.
Our main problem is not having sense of what our collective task is with regards football.
First, we fail to acknowledge that we are not the only country trying to better our team, thus
making us get arrogant about the competition. Our officials also add to the problem with their
lack of sense of place, and meddling with the team instead of focusing on doing their part.
Also the players truly lack team discipline, and sometimes go for personal glory instead of playing
for the team.
Lastly, some of us fans refuse to acknowledge the fact that there are not many minnows in the game.
Fans believe the SE have a right to victory, and fail to see when some of the popular players are the
main culprits with regards team discipline. In short politics and popularity seems to drive most of the
discussions.
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Abeg stop we don't need xxxx xxxxx players. We need a coach that will watch Nigerian leagues not Germany or Holland leagues to look for xxxx xxxxx players to call up.ohenhen1 wrote:There is still time to fix things. But the first step should be to remove both Rohr and Pinnick. Hopefully Nigeria can be lucky to get a young up and coming coach that want to make a name for himself.
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No-oooo! What for? Those people are NOT better than coach RohrTobi17 wrote:Amunike or/and Ndubuisi Egbo have got to be contacted ASAP, I rather we succeed and fail with our own... Algeria did the same with Belmadi and we can now see how well it has turned out for the better.
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
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Had the encounter been a two-legged affair, I bet things would have been different. The first game would not have ended the way it diddoctorollie wrote:Assuming this was a 2 legged affair where the winner progresses to the next round, Nigeria would have been knocked out! I can't believe SL came out better over two games! It is seriously time to refresh things
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
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And that would have been the correct thing to do in your eyes?LeonPhelps wrote:Abeg stop this nonsense. There is still time is what we have been saying for the last years, if it's a Nigerian coach they would have sack him.ohenhen1 wrote:There is still time to fix things. But the first step should be to remove both Rohr and Pinnick. Hopefully Nigeria can be lucky to get a young up and coming coach that want to make a name for himself.
Just asking....
I thought it was agreed that sacking Amodu after qualifying us for AFCON and then the WC was the height of stupidity.
No?
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Whats funny is people want a coach sacked when he is top of the group and on path to qualify.
The team finished 3rd in last AFCON after missing the previous 2 editions.
People act as if Nigeria never struggled in qualifying. In fact Rohr brought the most stable qualifying in SE history, sadly this seems to be changing, but every single previous Nigeria coach had hiccups in qualifying, every single one.
I dont know what people want, but they are acting emotionally. They act as if we have so many great options beyond Rohr, and truth is we just don't.
I used to really like Rohr. Now frankly he passes me off tbh, but the alternative is not good at all.
A hastily appointed coach, who will have to implement his style and system, and it WILL disrupt the team. They will not magically improve. Rohr has his faults, but many of the problems we saw in Benin, are the same problems that have haunted SE of the past.
1. Lack of guts and hustle
2. Poor fitness
3. Complacency and arrogance
While we can blame Rohr for poor selection and poor use of subs, we cannot blame him for the stupidity displayed by Iwobi, Sanusi, Chkwueze, for passing the ball to opponents at the back. We cannot blame Rohr for Ajayi falling asleep, after being on the pitch, literally a few minutes. There is blame to go round, and plenty of it is on the players for their lackadaisical attitude after going 4-0 up.
A new coach will not fix that, nor will he fix the piss poor pitches we must play on.
I have seen these piss poor displays by SE under all coaches.
Rohr, Oliseh, Keshi, SSS, Amodu, Vogts,
These poor displays are not the norm with Rohr. I mean the first 70 minutes against SL, was literally some of the best football we have seen under SE in a long time. Same with the Lesotho match, and the Ukraine friendly. All some of the best football I have seen SE play in a decade. So we should just ignore this, ignore the fact we still top the group and should easily qualify.
All for what ?
There is no miracle out there, I have seen enough coaches foreign and domestic to know there is no magic cure out there. Stability is vastly underrated by Nigerians.
Tell me that Kopp or Van Gaal is out there just waiting to coach SE, and I will say to sack Rohr. But there is no easy fix out there. Things can be much worse than they are now, I have seen this scenario many times before.
For all the clamor for a homegrown coach, the last 3 failed to qualify for AFCON. Amunike who people are touting coached the worst team of the last AFCON.Peoples memories are short.
What this situation reminds me of is the political situation in the US on 2016.
People were so passed at Hillary Clinton and democrats, they thought "what the heck, let's vote for Trump, IT CANNOT GET ANY WORSE"
Sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.
Frankly I am far more scared of another Keshi or Oliseh, than I am of Rohr.
The team finished 3rd in last AFCON after missing the previous 2 editions.
People act as if Nigeria never struggled in qualifying. In fact Rohr brought the most stable qualifying in SE history, sadly this seems to be changing, but every single previous Nigeria coach had hiccups in qualifying, every single one.
I dont know what people want, but they are acting emotionally. They act as if we have so many great options beyond Rohr, and truth is we just don't.
I used to really like Rohr. Now frankly he passes me off tbh, but the alternative is not good at all.
A hastily appointed coach, who will have to implement his style and system, and it WILL disrupt the team. They will not magically improve. Rohr has his faults, but many of the problems we saw in Benin, are the same problems that have haunted SE of the past.
1. Lack of guts and hustle
2. Poor fitness
3. Complacency and arrogance
While we can blame Rohr for poor selection and poor use of subs, we cannot blame him for the stupidity displayed by Iwobi, Sanusi, Chkwueze, for passing the ball to opponents at the back. We cannot blame Rohr for Ajayi falling asleep, after being on the pitch, literally a few minutes. There is blame to go round, and plenty of it is on the players for their lackadaisical attitude after going 4-0 up.
A new coach will not fix that, nor will he fix the piss poor pitches we must play on.
I have seen these piss poor displays by SE under all coaches.
Rohr, Oliseh, Keshi, SSS, Amodu, Vogts,
These poor displays are not the norm with Rohr. I mean the first 70 minutes against SL, was literally some of the best football we have seen under SE in a long time. Same with the Lesotho match, and the Ukraine friendly. All some of the best football I have seen SE play in a decade. So we should just ignore this, ignore the fact we still top the group and should easily qualify.
All for what ?
There is no miracle out there, I have seen enough coaches foreign and domestic to know there is no magic cure out there. Stability is vastly underrated by Nigerians.
Tell me that Kopp or Van Gaal is out there just waiting to coach SE, and I will say to sack Rohr. But there is no easy fix out there. Things can be much worse than they are now, I have seen this scenario many times before.
For all the clamor for a homegrown coach, the last 3 failed to qualify for AFCON. Amunike who people are touting coached the worst team of the last AFCON.Peoples memories are short.
What this situation reminds me of is the political situation in the US on 2016.
People were so passed at Hillary Clinton and democrats, they thought "what the heck, let's vote for Trump, IT CANNOT GET ANY WORSE"
Sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.
Frankly I am far more scared of another Keshi or Oliseh, than I am of Rohr.