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LeonPhelps wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:
There is still time to fix things. But the first step should be to remove both Rohr and Pinnick. Hopefully Nigeria can be lucky to get a young up and coming coach that want to make a name for himself.


Abeg stop we don't need xxxx xxxxx players. We need a coach that will watch Nigerian leagues not Germany or Holland leagues to look for xxxx xxxxx players to call up.
Sorry, but you are very ignorant.
"Xxxx-xxxxx players''.
My God.
Are you still living in the last century?
What has that got to do with anything?
Jeez.

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vancity eagle wrote:
[color=#FFFF00][/color]Whats funny is people want a coach sacked when he is top of the group and on path to qualify.

The team finished 3rd in last AFCON after missing the previous 2 editions.

People act as if Nigeria never struggled in qualifying. In fact Rohr brought the most stable qualifying in SE history, sadly this seems to be changing, but every single previous Nigeria coach had hiccups in qualifying, every single one.

I dont know what people want, but they are acting emotionally. They act as if we have so many great options beyond Rohr, and truth is we just don't.

I used to really like Rohr. Now frankly he passes me off tbh, but the alternative is not good at all.

A hastily appointed coach, who will have to implement his style and system, and it WILL disrupt the team. They will not magically improve. Rohr has his faults, but many of the problems we saw in Benin, are the same problems that have haunted SE of the past.

1. Lack of guts and hustle
2. Poor fitness
3. Complacency and arrogance

While we can blame Rohr for poor selection and poor use of subs, we cannot blame him for the stupidity displayed by Iwobi, Sanusi, Chkwueze, for passing the ball to opponents at the back. We cannot blame Rohr for Ajayi falling asleep, after being on the pitch, literally a few minutes. There is blame to go round, and plenty of it is on the players for their lackadaisical attitude after going 4-0 up.

A new coach will not fix that, nor will he fix the piss poor pitches we must play on.

I have seen these piss poor displays by SE under all coaches.

Rohr, Oliseh, Keshi, SSS, Amodu, Vogts,

These poor displays are not the norm with Rohr. I mean the first 70 minutes against SL, was literally some of the best football we have seen under SE in a long time. Same with the Lesotho match, and the Ukraine friendly. All some of the best football I have seen SE play in a decade. So we should just ignore this, ignore the fact we still top the group and should easily qualify.

All for what ?

There is no miracle out there, I have seen enough coaches foreign and domestic to know there is no magic cure out there. Stability is vastly underrated by Nigerians.

Tell me that Kopp or Van Gaal is out there just waiting to coach SE, and I will say to sack Rohr. But there is no easy fix out there. Things can be much worse than they are now, I have seen this scenario many times before.

For all the clamor for a homegrown coach, the last 3 failed to qualify for AFCON. Amunike who people are touting coached the worst team of the last AFCON.Peoples memories are short.

What this situation reminds me of is the political situation in the US on 2016.

People were so passed at Hillary Clinton and democrats, they thought "what the heck, let's vote for Trump, IT CANNOT GET ANY WORSE"

Sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.

Frankly I am far more scared of another Keshi or Oliseh, than I am of Rohr.


Keshi achieved more in his coaching career than Rohr can ever imagine.

When Rohr has an ANC trophy or make 2nd round of the WC we can talk.

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 Post subject: Re: Rohr out!
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LeonPhelps wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:
There is still time to fix things. But the first step should be to remove both Rohr and Pinnick. Hopefully Nigeria can be lucky to get a young up and coming coach that want to make a name for himself.


Abeg stop we don't need xxxx xxxxx players. We need a coach that will watch Nigerian leagues not Germany or Holland leagues to look for xxxx xxxxx players to call up.



don't call ppl "xxxx-xxxxx" mate, u wont want someone to call u n*gger would u.....u don't like Rohr, same as 60% of the forum but don't be a foul-mouthed racist

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Damunk wrote:
LeonPhelps wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:
There is still time to fix things. But the first step should be to remove both Rohr and Pinnick. Hopefully Nigeria can be lucky to get a young up and coming coach that want to make a name for himself.


Abeg stop we don't need xxxx xxxxx players. We need a coach that will watch Nigerian leagues not Germany or Holland leagues to look for xxxx xxxxx players to call up.
Sorry, but you are very ignorant.
"Xxxx-xxxxx players''.
My God.
Are you still living in the last century?
What has that got to do with anything?
Jeez.


Damunk….you are a moderator...can u delete that comment if leonphelps dont

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 Post subject: Re: Rohr out!
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vancity eagle wrote:
[color=#FFFF00][/color]Whats funny is people want a coach sacked when he is top of the group and on path to qualify.

The team finished 3rd in last AFCON after missing the previous 2 editions.

People act as if Nigeria never struggled in qualifying. In fact Rohr brought the most stable qualifying in SE history, sadly this seems to be changing, but every single previous Nigeria coach had hiccups in qualifying, every single one.

I dont know what people want, but they are acting emotionally. They act as if we have so many great options beyond Rohr, and truth is we just don't.

I used to really like Rohr. Now frankly he passes me off tbh, but the alternative is not good at all.

A hastily appointed coach, who will have to implement his style and system, and it WILL disrupt the team. They will not magically improve. Rohr has his faults, but many of the problems we saw in Benin, are the same problems that have haunted SE of the past.

1. Lack of guts and hustle
2. Poor fitness
3. Complacency and arrogance

While we can blame Rohr for poor selection and poor use of subs, we cannot blame him for the stupidity displayed by Iwobi, Sanusi, Chkwueze, for passing the ball to opponents at the back. We cannot blame Rohr for Ajayi falling asleep, after being on the pitch, literally a few minutes. There is blame to go round, and plenty of it is on the players for their lackadaisical attitude after going 4-0 up.

A new coach will not fix that, nor will he fix the piss poor pitches we must play on.

I have seen these piss poor displays by SE under all coaches.

Rohr, Oliseh, Keshi, SSS, Amodu, Vogts,

These poor displays are not the norm with Rohr. I mean the first 70 minutes against SL, was literally some of the best football we have seen under SE in a long time. Same with the Lesotho match, and the Ukraine friendly. All some of the best football I have seen SE play in a decade. So we should just ignore this, ignore the fact we still top the group and should easily qualify.

All for what ?

There is no miracle out there, I have seen enough coaches foreign and domestic to know there is no magic cure out there. Stability is vastly underrated by Nigerians.

Tell me that Kopp or Van Gaal is out there just waiting to coach SE, and I will say to sack Rohr. But there is no easy fix out there. Things can be much worse than they are now, I have seen this scenario many times before.

For all the clamor for a homegrown coach, the last 3 failed to qualify for AFCON. Amunike who people are touting coached the worst team of the last AFCON.Peoples memories are short.

What this situation reminds me of is the political situation in the US on 2016.

People were so passed at Hillary Clinton and democrats, they thought "what the heck, let's vote for Trump, IT CANNOT GET ANY WORSE"

Sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.

Frankly I am far more scared of another Keshi or Oliseh, than I am of Rohr.


VE.....I think that you are missing the point. At this present time, Rohr's mistakes is costing us games....lets take the last two games.....
the reason why Ajayi is in the game is due to Rohr not Balogun's injury....u cannot justify calling up 2 centrally midfielders when you have options at home and then call up 3 RB.... and then proceed to play a CB in that position...it is indefensible.

Oshimen got injured, our play needed a target man that can hustle and hold up the ball......Dressers not Onuacho or Kelechi.

don't get me started on the subs.....

we drew 4-4 cos a local coach saw that his team is tiring and made subs to freshen things but our great coach let tired players on the pitch and of course...they will be mental lapses...

if you watched the game yesterday....once Akpoguma left for Awaziem...we improved 10 fold.....

Rohr brought honesty and stability yes....but that will be used to judge the next guy....he needs t go and I trust Pinnick not to just employ anyone

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 Post subject: Re: Rohr out!
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:15 pm 
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Enyi wrote:
Damunk wrote:
LeonPhelps wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:
There is still time to fix things. But the first step should be to remove both Rohr and Pinnick. Hopefully Nigeria can be lucky to get a young up and coming coach that want to make a name for himself.


Abeg stop we don't need xxxx xxxxx players. We need a coach that will watch Nigerian leagues not Germany or Holland leagues to look for xxxx xxxxx players to call up.
Sorry, but you are very ignorant.
"Xxxx-xxxxx players''.
My God.
Are you still living in the last century?
What has that got to do with anything?
Jeez.


Damunk….you are a moderator...can u delete that comment if leonphelps dont
Good idea.
Was too shocked to react. :thumb:

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 Post subject: Re: Rohr out!
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I can't believe a sane person still uses "xxxx xxxxx" nowadays? people are really weird.


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 Post subject: Re: Rohr out!
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:17 pm 
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The term is wrong (so I'm not even going to quote) and has its origins in the diction of racist colonialists, so its use should be discouraged & even condemned.

However, note that many in Nigeria use the term innocently & ignorantly & don't see it as a slur. A few mixed-race friends actually use the term to self identify as well. Won't be surprised if a hardened Bini boy like Osaze uses the term.
Corrections should be made, and people should be informed, but let us not go overboard, with the shock & horror.


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 Post subject: Re: Rohr out!
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Damunk wrote:
LeonPhelps wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:
There is still time to fix things. But the first step should be to remove both Rohr and Pinnick. Hopefully Nigeria can be lucky to get a young up and coming coach that want to make a name for himself.


Abeg stop we don't need xxxx xxxxx players. We need a coach that will watch Nigerian leagues not Germany or Holland leagues to look for xxxx xxxxx players to call up.
Sorry, but you are very ignorant.
"Xxxx-xxxxx players''.
My God.
Are you still living in the last century?
What has that got to do with anything?
Jeez.

Most people in Nigeria use that word ignorantly. He probably didn't use as a slur. You guys need to stop all this knee jack reactions to everything out of Nigeria.

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 Post subject: Re: Rohr out!
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Enyi wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:
[color=#FFFF00][/color]Whats funny is people want a coach sacked when he is top of the group and on path to qualify.

The team finished 3rd in last AFCON after missing the previous 2 editions.

People act as if Nigeria never struggled in qualifying. In fact Rohr brought the most stable qualifying in SE history, sadly this seems to be changing, but every single previous Nigeria coach had hiccups in qualifying, every single one.

I dont know what people want, but they are acting emotionally. They act as if we have so many great options beyond Rohr, and truth is we just don't.

I used to really like Rohr. Now frankly he passes me off tbh, but the alternative is not good at all.

A hastily appointed coach, who will have to implement his style and system, and it WILL disrupt the team. They will not magically improve. Rohr has his faults, but many of the problems we saw in Benin, are the same problems that have haunted SE of the past.

1. Lack of guts and hustle
2. Poor fitness
3. Complacency and arrogance

While we can blame Rohr for poor selection and poor use of subs, we cannot blame him for the stupidity displayed by Iwobi, Sanusi, Chkwueze, for passing the ball to opponents at the back. We cannot blame Rohr for Ajayi falling asleep, after being on the pitch, literally a few minutes. There is blame to go round, and plenty of it is on the players for their lackadaisical attitude after going 4-0 up.

A new coach will not fix that, nor will he fix the piss poor pitches we must play on.

I have seen these piss poor displays by SE under all coaches.

Rohr, Oliseh, Keshi, SSS, Amodu, Vogts,

These poor displays are not the norm with Rohr. I mean the first 70 minutes against SL, was literally some of the best football we have seen under SE in a long time. Same with the Lesotho match, and the Ukraine friendly. All some of the best football I have seen SE play in a decade. So we should just ignore this, ignore the fact we still top the group and should easily qualify.

All for what ?

There is no miracle out there, I have seen enough coaches foreign and domestic to know there is no magic cure out there. Stability is vastly underrated by Nigerians.

Tell me that Kopp or Van Gaal is out there just waiting to coach SE, and I will say to sack Rohr. But there is no easy fix out there. Things can be much worse than they are now, I have seen this scenario many times before.

For all the clamor for a homegrown coach, the last 3 failed to qualify for AFCON. Amunike who people are touting coached the worst team of the last AFCON.Peoples memories are short.

What this situation reminds me of is the political situation in the US on 2016.

People were so passed at Hillary Clinton and democrats, they thought "what the heck, let's vote for Trump, IT CANNOT GET ANY WORSE"

Sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know.

Frankly I am far more scared of another Keshi or Oliseh, than I am of Rohr.


VE.....I think that you are missing the point. At this present time, Rohr's mistakes is costing us games....lets take the last two games.....
the reason why Ajayi is in the game is due to Rohr not Balogun's injury....u cannot justify calling up 2 centrally midfielders when you have options at home and then call up 3 RB.... and then proceed to play a CB in that position...it is indefensible.

Oshimen got injured, our play needed a target man that can hustle and hold up the ball......Dressers not Onuacho or Kelechi.

don't get me started on the subs.....

we drew 4-4 cos a local coach saw that his team is tiring and made subs to freshen things but our great coach let tired players on the pitch and of course...they will be mental lapses...

if you watched the game yesterday....once Akpoguma left for Awaziem...we improved 10 fold.....

Rohr brought honesty and stability yes....but that will be used to judge the next guy....he needs t go and I trust Pinnick not to just employ anyone


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 Post subject: Re: Rohr out!
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surakat wrote:
Damunk wrote:
LeonPhelps wrote:
ohenhen1 wrote:
There is still time to fix things. But the first step should be to remove both Rohr and Pinnick. Hopefully Nigeria can be lucky to get a young up and coming coach that want to make a name for himself.


Abeg stop we don't need xxxx xxxxx players. We need a coach that will watch Nigerian leagues not Germany or Holland leagues to look for xxxx xxxxx players to call up.
Sorry, but you are very ignorant.
"Xxxx-xxxxx players''.
My God.
Are you still living in the last century?
What has that got to do with anything?
Jeez.

Most people in Nigeria use that word ignorantly. He probably didn't use as a slur. You guys need to stop all this knee jack reactions to everything out of Nigeria.
Nothing knee jerk about it.
This is 2020, nearly 2021 and we live in a global village.
He needs to keep up if he is going to debate on a global platform. Ignorance is no excuse

Moreover, ignorant or not on slurs, what about the import of the slur which, in case you missed it, is blatantly racist.
"We don't need them".
Why? Because they're mixed race?

He should clap for himself. :roll:

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Sports Minister, Sunday Dare tweets that the "needful" will be done about Rohr.

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Dammy wrote:
Sports Minister, Sunday Dare tweets that the "needful" will be done about Rohr.

I'm hearing Amunike, Lamouche and a couple of other European coaches known in the African terrain are in talks with the NFF... more details to emerge in a few weeks


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Tobi17 wrote:
Dammy wrote:
Sports Minister, Sunday Dare tweets that the "needful" will be done about Rohr.

I'm hearing Amunike, Lamouche and a couple of other European coaches known in the African terrain are in talks with the NFF... more details to emerge in a few weeks
"Known in the African terrain".
In other words... "not good enough for the top countries and clubs of the world."
And they can't claim racism as an excuse either. :idea:

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Like I said

IF you were going to do it, this would be the opportune time

Unless the guy is significantly better than Rohr, I am against it.


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Tobi17 wrote:
Dammy wrote:
Sports Minister, Sunday Dare tweets that the "needful" will be done about Rohr.

I'm hearing Amunike, Lamouche and a couple of other European coaches known in the African terrain are in talks with the NFF... more details to emerge in a few weeks



Lamouchi who could not even navigate Ivory Coasts golden generation past GREECE.

God Forbid. Horrible choice.


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vancity eagle wrote:
Tobi17 wrote:
Dammy wrote:
Sports Minister, Sunday Dare tweets that the "needful" will be done about Rohr.

I'm hearing Amunike, Lamouche and a couple of other European coaches known in the African terrain are in talks with the NFF... more details to emerge in a few weeks



Lamouchi who could not even navigate Ivory Coasts golden generation past GREECE.

God Forbid. Horrible choice.
If these rumours are to be believed, Nigeria is simply reverting to type.
One step forward, two steps backwards....."we go dey parambulate but go still dey."

My oh my....

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Damunk wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:
Tobi17 wrote:
Dammy wrote:
Sports Minister, Sunday Dare tweets that the "needful" will be done about Rohr.

I'm hearing Amunike, Lamouche and a couple of other European coaches known in the African terrain are in talks with the NFF... more details to emerge in a few weeks



Lamouchi who could not even navigate Ivory Coasts golden generation past GREECE.

God Forbid. Horrible choice.
If these rumours are to be believed, Nigeria is simply reverting to type.
One step forward, two steps backwards....."we go dey parambulate but go still dey."

My oh my....



and all this while we are TOPPING OUR GROUP.

This will be a new low, even for Nigeria.

and we wonder why the likes of Eze, Saka, Abraham do not want to play for Nigeria.

Who would want to be a part of this madness and instability. These NFF are not serious.


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vancity eagle wrote:
Damunk wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:
Tobi17 wrote:
Dammy wrote:
Sports Minister, Sunday Dare tweets that the "needful" will be done about Rohr.

I'm hearing Amunike, Lamouche and a couple of other European coaches known in the African terrain are in talks with the NFF... more details to emerge in a few weeks



Lamouchi who could not even navigate Ivory Coasts golden generation past GREECE.

God Forbid. Horrible choice.
If these rumours are to be believed, Nigeria is simply reverting to type.
One step forward, two steps backwards....."we go dey parambulate but go still dey."

My oh my....



and all this while we are TOPPING OUR GROUP.

This will be a new low, even for Nigeria.

and we wonder why the likes of Eze, Saka, Abraham do not want to play for Nigeria.

Who would want to be a part of this madness and instability. These NFF are not serious.
Anyway its simply rumour for now.
No need getting epilepsy - yet.
People are running with it because its what they want - anyone but Rohr.
Even obviously fake news is given legs by The Believers.

Reminds me of the Deplorables :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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GERNOT RHOR HAS GOT TO GO!

HEY HEY! HO HO!

GERNOT RHOR HAS GOT TO GO!

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vancity eagle wrote:
Tobi17 wrote:
Dammy wrote:
Sports Minister, Sunday Dare tweets that the "needful" will be done about Rohr.

I'm hearing Amunike, Lamouche and a couple of other European coaches known in the African terrain are in talks with the NFF... more details to emerge in a few weeks



Lamouchi who could not even navigate Ivory Coasts golden generation past GREECE.

God Forbid. Horrible choice.


Remember when you spat in the face of your country and took sides with Ivory Coasts golden generation? Then one of Nigeria's golden legends humiliated you and your new country.

You committed treason and in a sane society, you will not be allowed here ever again.

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danfo driver wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:
Tobi17 wrote:
Dammy wrote:
Sports Minister, Sunday Dare tweets that the "needful" will be done about Rohr.

I'm hearing Amunike, Lamouche and a couple of other European coaches known in the African terrain are in talks with the NFF... more details to emerge in a few weeks



Lamouchi who could not even navigate Ivory Coasts golden generation past GREECE.

God Forbid. Horrible choice.


Remember when you spat in the face of your country and took sides with Ivory Coasts golden generation? Then one of Nigeria's golden legends humiliated you and your new country.

You committed treason and in a sane society, you will not be allowed here ever again.


He wished death on a coach just because of colour of his skin!

He is still angry that Keshi actually won the ANC with Elephant slayer like Sunday Mba

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Rohr is done and gone. Guys should just read the Sports Minister's body French. I'm anticipating Amunike assisted by a couple of reputable former Internationals with the pedigree.

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