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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:00 am 
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The SE continues to drop, now 5th in Africa and 35th in the world ... una still want ****
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking ... e/men/#CAF


Don't worry, once our **** wins the next ANC we will be number 1 :biggrin:


Rankings are irrelevant.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:28 pm 
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maceo4 wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:
The SE continues to drop, now 5th in Africa and 35th in the world ... una still want ****
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking ... e/men/#CAF


Don't worry, once our **** wins the next ANC we will be number 1 :biggrin:
Unlikely.
Algeria still hasn't made #1 despite their recent AFCON credentials.
Unfortunately, winning AFCON doesn't appear to be the beginning and end of the football universe. :taunt:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:00 am 
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Its the end of the world as we know it.
We have now dropped to 36th. :shock: :shock: :shock:
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking ... k/id13197/

The only thing worse is that Fatporkey has hit 89 thousand and 60-something posts.
And he'll appear in here like a beached whale to add plenty more. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:21 pm 
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Damunk wrote:
Its the end of the world as we know it.
We have now dropped to 36th. :shock: :shock: :shock:
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking ... k/id13197/

The only thing worse is that Fatporkey has hit 89 thousand and 60-something posts.
And he'll appear in here like a beached whale to add plenty more. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:



Bros,

FIFA ranking is rubbish if you ask me. Yes, it is used for grouping at major tournaments but it really does little to help predict the strength of teams. There are rankings that are better predictors.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:43 pm 
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Damunk wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:
The SE continues to drop, now 5th in Africa and 35th in the world ... una still want ****
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking ... e/men/#CAF


Don't worry, once our **** wins the next ANC we will be number 1 :biggrin:
Unlikely.
Algeria still hasn't made #1 despite their recent AFCON credentials.
Unfortunately, winning AFCON doesn't appear to be the beginning and end of the football universe. :taunt:



Algeria was ranked in the Fifties or even sixties before their AFCON win so it is understandable why they are still not #1

We are much closer currently to Senegal than Algeria was before the last AFCON.

If we win the next AFCON we will likely be #1, unless of course Senegal finishes #2 then they will likely hold on to the top spot. We are currently very close in points to both Morocco and Algeria. Senegal is the only team far ahead of us.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:37 pm 
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Enugu II wrote:
Damunk wrote:
Its the end of the world as we know it.
We have now dropped to 36th. :shock: :shock: :shock:
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking ... k/id13197/

The only thing worse is that Fatporkey has hit 89 thousand and 60-something posts.
And he'll appear in here like a beached whale to add plenty more. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:



Bros,

FIFA ranking is rubbish if you ask me. Yes, it is used for grouping at major tournaments but it really does little to help predict the strength of teams. There are rankings that are better predictors.


This, it's not something that teams and federations care about, they won't fire the manager of France or Germany for not being in the top 3.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:07 pm 
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Enugu II wrote:
Damunk wrote:
Its the end of the world as we know it.
We have now dropped to 36th. :shock: :shock: :shock:
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking ... k/id13197/

The only thing worse is that Fatporkey has hit 89 thousand and 60-something posts.
And he'll appear in here like a beached whale to add plenty more. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:



Bros,

FIFA ranking is rubbish if you ask me. Yes, it is used for grouping at major tournaments but it really does little to help predict the strength of teams. There are rankings that are better predictors.
Prof,
I was actually being sarcastic.. :rotf: ..

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:54 am 
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Damunk wrote:
Its the end of the world as we know it.
We have now dropped to 36th. :shock: :shock: :shock:
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking ... k/id13197/

The only thing worse is that Fatporkey has hit 89 thousand and 60-something posts.
And he'll appear in here like a beached whale to add plenty more. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


Lol. Seriously though, where and how does one find the time to post 89,000+ times on one forum. I’m barely over 8,000 and that seems like a heck of a lot to me❗️


Cheers.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:54 am 
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Kalani Jr,

I realize they (FIFA, I suppose) care about it However, the ranking has severe holes that even FIFA has continued to recognize and attempt to adjust. I can write an 100-page article on this issue. Apart from a major overhaul years ago, FIFA recently underwent yet another adjustment based on the cross-continent coefficient which gives wins over Luxembourg much higher value than a win over Nigeria (just an example of the absurdity). Although an equation was later developed to help solve this problem, it has failed to do so convincingly.

FIFA admitted a few years ago that while many expect rankings to give a current estimate of a team's strength, its own ranking did a poor job at that very measure. Why? It gives credence to a four-year performance of a team because FIFA sought to balance a need for WC-seeding information with a need to measure the current strength of teams. Unfortunately, both may well be unrelated.

More recently, FIFA has ditched some of the above (not completely) by de-emphasizing distant results in favor of more current ones. Yet, the ranking has not yet solved the problem and it still does not mesh with perception of a team's on-field strength nor does it predict (reasonably) actual results.

Bottomline, the FIFA ranking system remains a huge problem. Other ranking systems (see ELO) have actually developed better ranking systems that are much better predictors of actual team strength.

kalani JR wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Damunk wrote:
Its the end of the world as we know it.
We have now dropped to 36th. :shock: :shock: :shock:
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking ... k/id13197/

The only thing worse is that Fatporkey has hit 89 thousand and 60-something posts.
And he'll appear in here like a beached whale to add plenty more. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:



Bros,

FIFA ranking is rubbish if you ask me. Yes, it is used for grouping at major tournaments but it really does little to help predict the strength of teams. There are rankings that are better predictors.


This, it's not something that teams and federations care about, they won't fire the manager of France or Germany for not being in the top 3.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:13 pm 
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Enugu II wrote:
Kalani Jr,

I realize they (FIFA, I suppose) care about it However, the ranking has severe holes that even FIFA has continued to recognize and attempt to adjust. I can write an 100-page article on this issue. Apart from a major overhaul years ago, FIFA recently underwent yet another adjustment based on the cross-continent coefficient which gives wins over Luxembourg much higher value than a win over Nigeria (just an example of the absurdity). Although an equation was later developed to help solve this problem, it has failed to do so convincingly.

FIFA admitted a few years ago that while many expect rankings to give a current estimate of a team's strength, its own ranking did a poor job at that very measure. Why? It gives credence to a four-year performance of a team because FIFA sought to balance a need for WC-seeding information with a need to measure the current strength of teams. Unfortunately, both may well be unrelated.

More recently, FIFA has ditched some of the above (not completely) by de-emphasizing distant results in favor of more current ones. Yet, the ranking has not yet solved the problem and it still does not mesh with perception of a team's on-field strength nor does it predict (reasonably) actual results.

Bottomline, the FIFA ranking system remains a huge problem. Other ranking systems (see ELO) have actually developed better ranking systems that are much better predictors of actual team strength.

kalani JR wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
Damunk wrote:
Its the end of the world as we know it.
We have now dropped to 36th. :shock: :shock: :shock:
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking ... k/id13197/

The only thing worse is that Fatporkey has hit 89 thousand and 60-something posts.
And he'll appear in here like a beached whale to add plenty more. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:



Bros,

FIFA ranking is rubbish if you ask me. Yes, it is used for grouping at major tournaments but it really does little to help predict the strength of teams. There are rankings that are better predictors.


This, it's not something that teams and federations care about, they won't fire the manager of France or Germany for not being in the top 3.


ELO is MUCH better but still imperfect, I just get the feeling that people mostly ignore them now


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