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 Post subject: Re: Lessons learned
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:12 pm 
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wanaj0 wrote:
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If Nigeria qualifies for the World Cup( God willing), I have learned that any new additions to the team after qualifications do not make any impact for SE in the World Cup proper. 2010, 2014 and 2018 World Cups showed us( Osaze in 2014 is debatable). I believe Rohr should take the players that helped him secure the qualification. The intensity of the agents to recruit their clients to make the list will be fierce. I believe the only exception to any player making the team will only be Victor Moses. Personally, I don't think he is finished with SE. I know he has retired but I really hope he signals his intention to return. Chukwueze has alot to learn in the game.


How do you want agents to make their money????

They are plenty here ooo

We know... Lol...Honestly, if Nigeria addresses creativity in the midfield, this team is 95% complete.


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 Post subject: Re: Lessons learned
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:24 pm 
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What really bothers me intensely is that Rohr hasn't really found a true 10 or creator since 2016.... That tells me that outside the shores of Africa, Nigeria will struggle to win possession. I don't know the true reason for the delay of Ejaria


I see you identified the main problem with the SE as well. In my opinion, in the absence of a true midfield creator(which it doesn't look like we will be getting anytime soon), we have to improvise by packing the midfield with hard workers whose first instinct is to win the ball and pass, pass, pass, whether it is to another midfielder or to an overlapping player, or to a deep runner.

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 Post subject: Re: Lessons learned
PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:46 am 
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Scipio Africanus wrote:
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What really bothers me intensely is that Rohr hasn't really found a true 10 or creator since 2016.... That tells me that outside the shores of Africa, Nigeria will struggle to win possession. I don't know the true reason for the delay of Ejaria


I see you identified the main problem with the SE as well. In my opinion, in the absence of a true midfield creator(which it doesn't look like we will be getting anytime soon), we have to improvise by packing the midfield with hard workers whose first instinct is to win the ball and pass, pass, pass, whether it is to another midfielder or to an overlapping player, or to a deep runner.

Agreed,we must use what we have but I would’ve expected the midfield to do so.

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 Post subject: Re: Lessons learned
PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:30 pm 
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vancity eagle wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
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....and right on schedule, Victor is named in the Russian Premier League Team of the week.

https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2021/4/ ... -week.html


Let them ask Cameron, Civ or Algeria if they'd rather face Chukwueze instead of Moses in a WCQ v SE. Baller no matter where he plays! :clap: :clap:



You are talking about a different Victor Moses.

At the world cup he was way below his usual self. I think he lacks motivation for SE to be honest. Let him be, we have enough players who will be hungry and not be diving around every two seconds. His heart is not with SE anymore or else he wouldn't have retired at 28. For him to just come in to take a World Cup spot when he didn't play in the qualifiers or ANC would be blasphemous. Let him be.

We have plenty of wingers

Chukwueze
Moses Simon
Samuel Kalu
Ademola Lookman
Paul Mukairu
Henry Onyekuru
Chidera Ejuke
Anyawo Iwuala
Emmanuel Dennis

Plus even the likes of

Alex Iwobi
Ovie Ejaria
Michael Olise can also play on the wing,

We do not need Victor Moses.


I suppose, in a sense, all wingers are equal but trust me, some wingers are more equal than others... and along with his play making abilities and experience, Vic Moses is a cut above the rest❗️


Cheers.


Last edited by TonyTheTigerKiller on Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:18 am, edited 2 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Lessons learned
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:35 pm 
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TonyTheTigerKiller wrote:
vancity eagle wrote:
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
Obong wrote:
....and right on schedule, Victor is named in the Russian Premier League Team of the week.

https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2021/4/ ... -week.html


Let them ask Cameron, Civ or Algeria if they'd rather face Chukwueze instead of Moses in a WCQ v SE. Baller no matter where he plays! :clap: :clap:



You are talking about a different Victor Moses.

At the world cup he was way below his usual self. I think he lacks motivation for SE to be honest. Let him be, we have enough players who will be hungry and not be diving around every two seconds. His heart is not with SE anymore or else he wouldn't have retired at 28. For him to just come in to take a World Cup spot when he didn't play in the qualifiers or ANC would be blasphemous. Let him be.

We have plenty of wingers

Chukwueze
Moses Simon
Samuel Kalu
Ademola Lookman
Paul Mukairu
Henry Onyekuru
Chidera Ejuke
Anyawo Iwuala
Emmanuel Dennis

Plus even the likes of

Alex Iwobi
Ovie Ejaria
Michael Olise can also play on the wing,

We do not need Victor Moses.


I suppose, in a sense, all wingers are equal but trust me, some wingers are more equal than others... and along with his play making abilities and experience, Vic Moses is a cut above the rest❗️


Cheers.


Last edited by TonyTheTigerKiller on Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:17 am, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Lessons learned
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:28 pm 
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Eaglezbeak wrote:
naijaguy wrote:
highbury wrote:
If Nigeria qualifies for the World Cup( God willing), I have learned that any new additions to the team after qualifications do not make any impact for SE in the World Cup proper. 2010, 2014 and 2018 World Cups showed us( Osaze in 2014 is debatable). I believe Rohr should take the players that helped him secure the qualification. The intensity of the agents to recruit their clients to make the list will be fierce. I believe the only exception to any player making the team will only be Victor Moses. Personally, I don't think he is finished with SE. I know he has retired but I really hope he signals his intention to return. Chukwueze has alot to learn in the game.


Yes oo. Not just Victor Moses, We should also recall Shola Ameobi, Sam Sodje, Juwon Oshaniwa, Micheal Uchebo, Chigozie Agbim and Micheal Babatunde. They all have a lot to still offer :huh: :glare:

You forgot Danny Shittu!


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