Thank you **** it is time to go

[fabio]

Rohr has a chance to be rated as our best coach ever. Even if he just matches Westerhoff & Keshi's records (winning AFCON & WC 2nd round), he would have achieved more than them due to his win ratio in competitive games & the fact that his teams seamlessly qualify for tournaments. Rohr is the first coach of Nigeria to complete 3 qualifying cycles undefeated in away games in Africa. The trend is continuing in his 4th which is the current World Cup qualifiers. However if he doesn't match that, say may be another AFCON Bronze & just WC qualification, I will classify him below those two e.g. the best of the rest, because according to some dudes here if a coach doesn't win AFCON they are failures. A ton of coaches fall into that category, then there's Siasia & Oliseh that couldn't even qualify for AFCON (Siasia on 2 occasions), so I wonder how to describe those coaches.

According FIFA records.... Nigeria 0 Algeria 3!

[Damunk]

Rohr has a chance to be rated as our best coach ever. Even if he just matches Westerhoff & Keshi's records (winning AFCON & WC 2nd round), he would have achieved more than them due to his win ratio in competitive games & the fact that his teams seamlessly qualify for tournaments. Rohr is the first coach of Nigeria to complete 3 qualifying cycles undefeated in away games in Africa. The trend is continuing in his 4th which is the current World Cup qualifiers. However if he doesn't match that, say may be another AFCON Bronze & just WC qualification, I will classify him below those two e.g. the best of the rest, because according to some dudes here if a coach doesn't win AFCON they are failures. A ton of coaches fall into that category, then there's Siasia & Oliseh that couldn't even qualify for AFCON (Siasia on 2 occasions), so I wonder how to describe those coaches.

According FIFA records.... Nigeria 0 Algeria 3!

A game they have declined to credit a single player with a cap.
You funny.
Who scored by the way? I hear it was Rabah Madjer.

[fabio]

A game they have declined to credit a single player with a cap.
You funny.
Who scored by the way? I hear it was Rabah Madjer.

I know you will show face

Please what does FIFA record say

[Adisboy]

Rohr has a chance to be rated as our best coach ever. Even if he just matches Westerhoff & Keshi's records (winning AFCON & WC 2nd round), he would have achieved more than them due to his win ratio in competitive games & the fact that his teams seamlessly qualify for tournaments. Rohr is the first coach of Nigeria to complete 3 qualifying cycles undefeated in away games in Africa. The trend is continuing in his 4th which is the current World Cup qualifiers. However if he doesn't match that, say may be another AFCON Bronze & just WC qualification, I will classify him below those two e.g. the best of the rest, because according to some dudes here if a coach doesn't win AFCON they are failures. A ton of coaches fall into that category, then there's Siasia & Oliseh that couldn't even qualify for AFCON (Siasia on 2 occasions), so I wonder how to describe those coaches.

According FIFA records.... Nigeria 0 Algeria 3!

I was expecting the above response. It clearly shows that you are not interested in facts. Says a lot about you. Abeg please name the players that scored the goals for Algeria. Also please explain why that game is not included by FIFA as a match played by Ahmed Musa. Fabio please i'm waiting from your response.

[fabio]

I was expecting the above response. It clearly shows that you are not interested in facts. Says a lot about you. Abeg please name the players that scored the goals for Algeria. Also please explain why that game is not included by FIFA as a match played by Ahmed Musa. Fabio please i'm waiting from your response.

Chief, no vex! I was only going my FIFA facts!

The relevant FIFA and UEFA rules on the subject are clear. FIFA Disciplinary Code, 2011 Edition,3 article 55 provides:

“1. If a player takes part in an official match despite being ineligible, his team will be sanctioned by forfeiting the match (cf. art. 31) and paying a minimumfine of CHF 6,000.

2. If a player takes part in a friendly match despite being ineligible, his team will be sanctioned by forfeiting the match and paying a minimum fine of CHF 4,000.”

Article 31 provides:

“1. A team sanctioned with a forfeit is considered to have lost the match by 3-0. facts according to FIFA

https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/regul ... ory_id=115

[Damunk]

A game they have declined to credit a single player with a cap.
You funny.
Who scored by the way? I hear it was Rabah Madjer.

I know you will show face

Please what does FIFA record say

I always show my face when people crack good jokes.
You should be pleased.

[Bigpokey24]

Amodu and Keshi never ever lost a worldcup qualifier... we cannot say the same for the dude who messed up our undefeated records during WCQs

[wanaj0]

we nigerian sometime we never happy ,the guy still getting results and qualifying for tournament remember 2015 and 2017 nation cup.???

So are coaches hired just to qualify teams for tournaments?? See complex!

But he got to the Semi's in his first and only AFCON with us. Westerhoff only won the AFCON on his 3rd attempt. He got Silver in his first with an experimental squad in 1990 but got bronze with a far better experienced and talented squad in 1992. Should he have been sacked in 1992 since he couldn't get to the final? According to you guys yardsticks he should have. If he did, 1994 would not have happened. Even though the team couldn't get to the final like the earlier team there was clear progress in the foundation of the team like what is happening today. Rohr has built a team that would surely compete at the highest level in Africa for many more AFCONs. With a strong team odds are that you are likely to win a tournament sooner rather than later.

But we have a coach that won the AFCON at First Attempt with hey yous.

I am asking again, what will be considered failure/success for current SE coach?

Expecting every coach hired to win the AFCON or any major competition on the first try is ridiculous. This is not the norm. Did Guardiola win the premier league in his first season? Did Joachim Low win the Euros or World Cup in his first try? The aim is to build a team capable of challenging before other factors come into play. There's an element of good fortune that comes with winning tournaments. Algeria for instance could have easily been eliminated in the quarterfinals as the scraped through on penalties. Even against us, if Ndidi did not make that tackle and the game went into extra time in the semifinals. These are things that worked in Algeria's favour. In 2013, i remember the last ditch tackle by Mikel that saved a certain equaliser by Ivory Coast in the quarters etc. These things have to align together with having a competitive team for you to have a chance of becoming champions. It does not solely rest on the coaches' abilities. If that is difficult to understand then I can't help you.

Thanks. So what will you use to measure the performance of the coach?

Rohr has a chance to be rated as our best coach ever. Even if he just matches Westerhoff & Keshi's records (winning AFCON & WC 2nd round), he would have achieved more than them due to his win ratio in competitive games & the fact that his teams seamlessly qualify for tournaments. Rohr is the first coach of Nigeria to complete 3 qualifying cycles undefeated in away games in Africa. The trend is continuing in his 4th which is the current World Cup qualifiers. However if he doesn't match that, say may be another AFCON Bronze & just WC qualification, I will classify him below those two e.g. the best of the rest, because according to some dudes here if a coach doesn't win AFCON they are failures. A ton of coaches fall into that category, then there's Siasia & Oliseh that couldn't even qualify for AFCON (Siasia on 2 occasions), so I wonder how to describe those coaches.

Thanks.

I am looking ahead. What will be your measure to decide that a coach is not good enough and should have a change of hands?

Better still what will Rohr specifically achieve that will make you say NOT GOOD ENOUGH to continue on the job?

[Bigpokey24]

some people forgot who was the coach in this match

[Adisboy]

I was expecting the above response. It clearly shows that you are not interested in facts. Says a lot about you. Abeg please name the players that scored the goals for Algeria. Also please explain why that game is not included by FIFA as a match played by Ahmed Musa. Fabio please i'm waiting from your response.

Chief, no vex! I was only going my FIFA facts!

The relevant FIFA and UEFA rules on the subject are clear. FIFA Disciplinary Code, 2011 Edition,3 article 55 provides:

“1. If a player takes part in an official match despite being ineligible, his team will be sanctioned by forfeiting the match (cf. art. 31) and paying a minimumfine of CHF 6,000.

2. If a player takes part in a friendly match despite being ineligible, his team will be sanctioned by forfeiting the match and paying a minimum fine of CHF 4,000.”

Article 31 provides:

“1. A team sanctioned with a forfeit is considered to have lost the match by 3-0. facts according to FIFA

https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/regul ... ory_id=115

What was the score on the field of play? Also why is it that when you look up this match there always an asterix attached to the loss. Also who's error was it that records were not kept correctly. The coaches changed (Oliseh to Rohr) but the same NFF board attached. Anybody, who attributes this result to Rohr in anyway shape or form, is not well or just mischievous.

[Robbynice]

Given all of the changes, the team is frankly doing better than I had expected...

GO Super Eagles!!

no thanks to cape-verde for scoring and assisting 2 goals

Bigpokey you need to chill sometimes.
If it was the SE that scored the own goal, you'd blame Rohr. The opponent scored an own goal and you are still not happy. This is how wizards behave o. You don't need to start flying at night to become one.

[1naija]

Attention seeker.

If I catch you in the streets of Houston, you will see the attention my knuckles will give your lips. Nonsense!

after the match just waka go europe, you've destroyed our style of play ... you can keep peakmilk with you

[Enugu II]

we nigerian sometime we never happy ,the guy still getting results and qualifying for tournament remember 2015 and 2017 nation cup.???

So are coaches hired just to qualify teams for tournaments?? See complex!

gochino,

Thank you!

What an incredibly low bar to set!! Qualifying for a tournament of how many teams when we are ranked what again run Africa and claiming we have great talents? Ridiculous! The fact that we did not qualify to AFCON tice means diddly. That was ofd given the fact that we had usually qualified without a sweat. No one remembers the reason we did not make it. Let me remind people who have developed amnesia: (1) NFF in-fighting and making it publicly impossible for the coach to do his job, and (2) a quirky and unusual draw pitting Nigeria and Egypt in a qualifier. Those two scenarios are unusual.

It is a shock, therefore, that somewhere will equate Nigeria's (ranked usually in Africa's Top 5) qualification for a 24-team AFCON as a great achievement. It is a ridiculously low bar. Thank goodness that authorities do not assess Rohr or any Nigerian manager based on such a low bar. Far more is expected.