Rohr on Morocco & Nigeria comparison

[Otitokoro]

Good for the Moroccan coach Reguagi.
Did he coach Morocco in the 2018 WC? No. Did Rohr coach Nigeria in the 2022 WC? No.
So how can you honestly compare both?
You never gave Rohr a chance to coach in the 2022WC so your comparison is not a credible one.
Who knows...Rohr, being in the same 3rd place game against previous foes Croatia, could have beaten them this time around and placed 3rd.

No one gave the Moroccan team a snowball's chance in hell to make it out of the group. However, football being football, it worked out for them.

The Moroccan coach came 4th in the WC.

Rohr came 3rd in the group stages.

so.....

Failed, as in "not meeting the targets or metrics set by his employers"? Because when one fails at a job, its because he/she didn't attain the performance metrics set forth by his employer(s).

Or failed, because he didn't "play the kind of entertaining football that got Nigeria prematurely booted out of the AFCON, AND cost Nigeria a place in the world cup"?

Talk about misplaced priorities.

Also, the Moroccan coach played a defensive game for the most part of the competition, which is right up Rohr's alley. So...

Infrastructure, one can understand.

Which one is poor education?

Rohr, failed because he took a contractor approach, to his job. He came in, before the game and left after the game. All the natives supported this approach.

Give him Morocco, he would exit in the group stages.

[Damunk]

Like what he did with FC Girondins de Bordeaux at the UEFA Cup finals?

Like a gilted ex who will never move on with her/his fooking life, I guess we are stuck with this low life for ever. Tufiakwa!

Bros, I believe Rohr was really hurt by his sack and difficulty to catch on elsewhere. It really games at you when reading these interviews. Well, he could have avoided all this by doing much better while on the job.

You know he was doing charity work, teaching the natives how to learn the game. Going to AFCON and World Cup to learn...

I would have loved to see what he would have done with Morocco, Egypt, Algeria, or even South Africa with the advanced infrastructure.

Or maybe he would have said being hired 3 months before the World Cup, what did they expect him to do? Perform a miracle?

Or what he did in Niger Republic and the other two African countries that he managed. Right? Or the fact that he managed the same Nigeria that became African champions under three others and had a Nigerian coach who qualified them for two World Cups that is some how now trumpeted as a huge achievement under Rohr. The fact remains that no matter how it is cut or sliced, Rohr was ordinary. Nothing magical. Nigeria had seen better and will see better.

Prof, where did you read someone calling Rohr 'something magical'?
In fact, can you mention one 'magical' coach Nigeria has ever had?
Magical by who's standards?

This is so funny.
To enable your point, you are bringing up non-existent claims.
Magical? Since when?

[Damunk]

Incredible!
Aren't our stadia and infrastructure currently in a dilapidated state in need of major repair and upgrade? Weren't Nigeria's mediocre organizational and management problems evident to all and sundry? Don't we have major problems with our league schedule and club management in our local football today? Did the man lie about any of these things?
Why is it that Nigerians in general always refuse to listen to and learn from the truth when its told to them? They would rather listen to someone who stokes their ego and blows smoke up their behinds? Its the same in every facet of the Nigerian society.

You taut 1994 (close to TWO decades ago) as a benchmark, because they were ranked 5th in the world. How exactly did Nigeria benefit from it? What progress has been made hence? (and please, don't even mention the Olympics, as we all know all those men weren't U23). Can you compare the National stadium in Surulere then to its current state now? Or any other stadium in Nigeria? Did Nigeria not get knocked out in the round of 16 in 1994, in comparison to Morocco who made it to the Semi's - a feat Nigeria has NEVER attained?

You label the man as incompetent, yet, he engineered the qualification of the country to a world cup (with a game to spare
- never done before) and claimed a bronze medal (not done since) after not qualifying the prior edition before he came on board. He had also engineered the qualification of Nigeria for the AFCON and the final round of the WCQ (again, with a game to spare), yet he is incompetent?

But when y'all got him sacked, the so called local best coach couldn't even get past a mediocre Tunisia team and ended up with Nigeria's WORST AFCON record in 41 years, but of course, to y'all, that was okay. For the icing on the cake, this same local coach couldn't get past a Ghanaian team at its lowest ebb, for what should have been a place in the world cup.
And yet, yall are making excuses up and down, refusing to come to terms with the FACT that firing Rohr was really a daft idea. Well, good luck to yall.

The gullibility here is y'all refusing to admit the unfortunate truth, when its staring you right in the face!

Cell

The thing that gets me is that we will swallow it up as some Gospel. Without that infrastructure we still ranked #5 in 1994 and beat Bulgaria. Incompetence has excuses and the gullible will swallow excuses up.

I was expecting some of natives to show up.

Oh, you guys still want a one-sided argument where you debate on intangibles and push subjective opinion as fact?

Aint gonna happen. Sorry.

[Damunk]

Guy, but you didn't complain when Prof took us back to 1994.

You had to go all the way back to 1996?

Like what he did with FC Girondins de Bordeaux at the UEFA Cup finals?

Like a gilted ex who will never move on with her/his fooking life, I guess we are stuck with this low life for ever. Tufiakwa!

Bros, I believe Rohr was really hurt by his sack and difficulty to catch on elsewhere. It really games at you when reading these interviews. Well, he could have avoided all this by doing much better while on the job.

You know he was doing charity work, teaching the natives how to learn the game. Going to AFCON and World Cup to learn...

I would have loved to see what he would have done with Morocco, Egypt, Algeria, or even South Africa with the advanced infrastructure.

Or maybe he would have said being hired 3 months before the World Cup, what did they expect him to do? Perform a miracle?

[fabio]

I didn't employ him and didn't sack him. His employers sacked him.

Maybe, if he didn't have a contractor approach to his job and had built friendship and network in the country, he would gone to the WC.

Good for the Moroccan coach Reguagi.
Did he coach Morocco in the 2018 WC? No. Did Rohr coach Nigeria in the 2022 WC? No.
So how can you honestly compare both?
You never gave Rohr a chance to coach in the 2022WC so your comparison is not a credible one.
Who knows...Rohr, being in the same 3rd place game against previous foes Croatia, could have beaten them this time around and placed 3rd.

No one gave the Moroccan team a snowball's chance in hell to make it out of the group. However, football being football, it worked out for them.

The Moroccan coach came 4th in the WC.

Rohr came 3rd in the group stages.

so.....

Failed, as in "not meeting the targets or metrics set by his employers"? Because when one fails at a job, its because he/she didn't attain the performance metrics set forth by his employer(s).

Or failed, because he didn't "play the kind of entertaining football that got Nigeria prematurely booted out of the AFCON, AND cost Nigeria a place in the world cup"?

Talk about misplaced priorities.

Also, the Moroccan coach played a defensive game for the most part of the competition, which is right up Rohr's alley. So...

Infrastructure, one can understand.

Which one is poor education?

Rohr, failed because he took a contractor approach, to his job. He came in, before the game and left after the game. All the natives supported this approach.

Give him Morocco, he would exit in the group stages.

[Damunk]

No one but **** and his acolytes keep bringing him up.

You all are actually poor students of history. It was NOT the same Ghana team that played in the AFCON that we played in the qualifiers. They saw that they needed to do something about the way they did and they proceeded to do something about it.

Ghana who couldn't beat us still went to the World Cup and secured 4 points.

The article being discussed talked about infrastructure being part of the reason we couldn't replicate what Morocco did.

It is NOT the reason and has never been.

The Moroccan team just like ours have mostly foreign-based and some foreign-born Moroccans.

They hired the right coach for them.

Which is what you guys and the NFF miserably failed to do.
Rather, you were quite happy to "fire first, ask questions later" - much like our legendary Nigeria Police Force.

By the way, check pages one and two of Eagles Nest and tell us how many threads on Rohr have been started - and jumped on - and by whom, including this one!
I can tell you for free its not by his "acolytes".

Hint: Check your people.

[Bigpokey24]

No one but **** and his acolytes keep bringing him up.

You all are actually poor students of history. It was NOT the same Ghana team that played in the AFCON that we played in the qualifiers. They saw that they needed to do something about the way they did and they proceeded to do something about it.

Ghana who couldn't beat us still went to the World Cup and secured 4 points.

The article being discussed talked about infrastructure being part of the reason we couldn't replicate what Morocco did.

It is NOT the reason and has never been.

The Moroccan team just like ours have mostly foreign-based and some foreign-born Moroccans.

They hired the right coach for them.

Which is what you guys and the NFF miserably failed to do.
Rather, you were quite happy to "fire first, ask questions later" - much like our legendary Nigeria Police Force.

By the way, check pages one and two of Eagles Nest and tell us how many threads on Rohr have been started - and jumped on - and by whom, including this one!
I can tell you for free its not by his "acolytes".

Hint: Check your people.

always defending your massa...kai

[txj]

Guy, but you didn't complain when Prof took us back to 1994.

You had to go all the way back to 1996?

Like what he did with FC Girondins de Bordeaux at the UEFA Cup finals?

Like a gilted ex who will never move on with her/his fooking life, I guess we are stuck with this low life for ever. Tufiakwa!

Bros, I believe Rohr was really hurt by his sack and difficulty to catch on elsewhere. It really games at you when reading these interviews. Well, he could have avoided all this by doing much better while on the job.

You know he was doing charity work, teaching the natives how to learn the game. Going to AFCON and World Cup to learn...

I would have loved to see what he would have done with Morocco, Egypt, Algeria, or even South Africa with the advanced infrastructure.

Or maybe he would have said being hired 3 months before the World Cup, what did they expect him to do? Perform a miracle?

You read a thread like this and you can see what Rohr meant by 'education'.
Because the people who manage our football are no more knowledgeable than BigPokey...

[Damunk]

Guy, but you didn't complain when Prof took us back to 1994.

You had to go all the way back to 1996?

Like what he did with FC Girondins de Bordeaux at the UEFA Cup finals?

Like a gilted ex who will never move on with her/his fooking life, I guess we are stuck with this low life for ever. Tufiakwa!

Bros, I believe Rohr was really hurt by his sack and difficulty to catch on elsewhere. It really games at you when reading these interviews. Well, he could have avoided all this by doing much better while on the job.

You know he was doing charity work, teaching the natives how to learn the game. Going to AFCON and World Cup to learn...

I would have loved to see what he would have done with Morocco, Egypt, Algeria, or even South Africa with the advanced infrastructure.

Or maybe he would have said being hired 3 months before the World Cup, what did they expect him to do? Perform a miracle?

You read a thread like this and you can see what Rohr meant by 'education'.
Because the people who manage our football are no more knowledgeable than BigPokey...

Bigporkey, ngbo?

[Cellular]

You read a thread like this and you can see what Rohr meant by 'education'.
Because the people who manage our football are no more knowledgeable than BigPokey...

But BigPokey sniffed out the fraud many moons ago while you guys were enamored with his club accomplishments back in 96.

[txj]

You read a thread like this and you can see what Rohr meant by 'education'.
Because the people who manage our football are no more knowledgeable than BigPokey...

But BigPokey sniffed out the fraud many moons ago while you guys were enamored with his club accomplishments back in 96.

Sniff?

The only thing he can sniff is turkey!

[Eaglezbeak]

Like a gilted ex who will never move on with her/his fooking life, I guess we are stuck with this low life for ever. Tufiakwa!

So you want to sweep the fact that football in Nigeria is a mess?

[wanaj0]

Like a gilted ex who will never move on with her/his fooking life, I guess we are stuck with this low life for ever. Tufiakwa!

So you want to sweep the fact that football in Nigeria is a mess?

And that mess made NFF to hire a coach like Rohr.

[packerland]

Guy, but you didn't complain when Prof took us back to 1994.

You had to go all the way back to 1996?

Like what he did with FC Girondins de Bordeaux at the UEFA Cup finals?

Bros, I believe Rohr was really hurt by his sack and difficulty to catch on elsewhere. It really games at you when reading these interviews. Well, he could have avoided all this by doing much better while on the job.

You know he was doing charity work, teaching the natives how to learn the game. Going to AFCON and World Cup to learn...

I would have loved to see what he would have done with Morocco, Egypt, Algeria, or even South Africa with the advanced infrastructure.

Or maybe he would have said being hired 3 months before the World Cup, what did they expect him to do? Perform a miracle?

You read a thread like this and you can see what Rohr meant by 'education'.
Because the people who manage our football are no more knowledgeable than BigPokey...

Bigporkey, ngbo?

[packerland]

You people are wasting brain cells with your argument. Rohr was a poor coach but even poor coaches can thrive if you take care of everything else. The man was good at organizing defense, he needed an offensive minded assistant, a better GK coach than what he had and the NFF could have protected him from outside interference. All that half time talk from Pinnick and his boys and govt officials interfering with their trainings will not lead to success. He is still a poor coach though. Not sure we can afford anyone better.

[TonyTheTigerKiller]

Infrastructure, one can understand.

Which one is poor education?

Rohr, failed because he took a contractor approach, to his job. He came in, before the game and left after the game. All the natives supported this approach.

Give him Morocco, he would exit in the group stages.

He won't get a Morocco, CIV, Egypt, Algeria, Zambia, South Africa, or Angola because unlike us, they know his limitations.

He would coach them to come to the World Cup to learn.

More like the heads of those federations are not ignorant and self-serving like Pinnick. Pinnick absolutely knew Rohr’s limitations but he had his own agenda


Cheers.

[asabatex]

Kneegrows (Negroes) please...

Like a gilted ex who will never move on with her/his fooking life, I guess we are stuck with this low life for ever. Tufiakwa!

Bros, I believe Rohr was really hurt by his sack and difficulty to catch on elsewhere. It really games at you when reading these interviews. Well, he could have avoided all this by doing much better while on the job.

The man spoke the truth!

[danfo driver]

Like a gilted ex who will never move on with her/his fooking life, I guess we are stuck with this low life for ever. Tufiakwa!

So you want to sweep the fact that football in Nigeria is a mess?

No, happy to have this conversation. Please open a thread, lets chat.

What I want is for a low life, no good, unemployed b45tard who spent 6 years sleeping with young girls in Lagos to move on to his next job. Afterall, Nigeria is not the first employer to fire him. Let him move on and talk about the others, if he is unable to find another job to occupy his time.

If you want to listen to a b45t4rd who is hurt because black people had the guts to sack him, then that is something you would have to do alone.

Afterall, when you break up with a girl, she shouldnt spend the rest of her life talking about the problems in your family. Thatgs just weird. She can either move on and find a new boyfriend or concentrate on the problems in her own family.

[wiseone]

[Dammy]

While we are unable to convince Folorunsho, Olise Carney or Ugochukwu to join us

[fabio]

While we are unable to convince Folorunsho, Olise Carney or Ugochukwu to join us

Let's place this in context.

He is an ex- Spanish international. Btw 2021- 2024 he played once for the Spanish Senior National team.

Secondly, according to Wikipedia, he was approached by The Moroccan in 2017, rebuffed the offer in anticipating of the Spanish team.

[packerland]

While we are unable to convince Folorunsho, Olise Carney or Ugochukwu to join us

Let's place this in context.

He is an ex- Spanish international. Btw 2021- 2024 he played once for the Spanish Senior National team.

Secondly, according to Wikipedia, he was approached by The Moroccan in 2017, rebuffed the offer in anticipating of the Spanish team.

Bros, but they still got him in the end. We still haven't closed the deal on Gift Orban. Tomorrow when he represents Togo out of anger and blows up for club, you will see people come out and say he wasn't all that. The point is that Morrocco is moving fast and is sending the right people on their recruitment engagement. Trust me, I will bet my right nut that Saka would be playing for us right now if we sent the right people back then. He was a budding star but not a superstar when we first approached him.