Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
Mane is not a striker.aruako1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:44 pm2021 Mane 1 goal; 2004 Eto 1 goal. We won't allow this agenda to fly.vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:26 pmActually he doesn't. Not this year. He misses plenty of chances for Napoli, even last year when he was top scorer.
Anyways I said this long before anyone other than Bushboy, and of course was abused, as is always the case when you tell an inconvenient truth.
In fact I blame Osimehn for Peseiro changing formations, and for him playing coward football.
Had we beaten Equatorial Guinea 3 or 4-1 like our xgoals would have suggested, he likely would not have switched from the 433.
The reason we failed to beat EG was Osimehn.
The same Iwobi people abused for no assists and not being creative laid a sitter for Osimehn on a platter. The only game Iwobi played his real position.
Yet the chance was wasted, like flushing a winning lottery ticket down the drain.
Also was Mane missing sitters like Osimehn ?
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
you no sabi ball at all. I doubt you even watched this AFCON, never saw you around until the semis. MAybe you should go and watch the games all over again. Without Osimhen, we won't have made the finals. FACT no feelingsScipio Africanus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:07 pmAll the more reason to have a clinical striker. Osimhen is not it. All those missed free headers. Can you imagine Rossi or Schillaci scoring a single goal in a tournament for their ultra defensive sides and winning anything?Coach wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:53 pm Weighing into the debate, without being particularly partisan, one would argue the clearcut chances weren’t as plentiful as presumed, though there were unforgivable misses. Regarding the “but he scores for fun for his club” statement, Napoli of last season were a far better footballing side than this Super Eagles.
In conclusion, yes, Osimhen should’ve scored more, but Nigeria were hardly an attacking force. Silver was fair reward for their defensive stalwart. Nil else.
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
Danfo driver had his pal Cellular ban me for 2 weeks for calling him an nkita. I have forgotten more about football than you ever knew. 1 goal in 7 games! One goal! At a major tournament! Abeg carry go!Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:13 pmyou no sabi ball at all. I doubt you even watched this AFCON, never saw you around until the semis. MAybe you should go and watch the games all over again. Without Osimhen, we won't have made the finals. FACT no feelingsScipio Africanus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:07 pmAll the more reason to have a clinical striker. Osimhen is not it. All those missed free headers. Can you imagine Rossi or Schillaci scoring a single goal in a tournament for their ultra defensive sides and winning anything?Coach wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:53 pm Weighing into the debate, without being particularly partisan, one would argue the clearcut chances weren’t as plentiful as presumed, though there were unforgivable misses. Regarding the “but he scores for fun for his club” statement, Napoli of last season were a far better footballing side than this Super Eagles.
In conclusion, yes, Osimhen should’ve scored more, but Nigeria were hardly an attacking force. Silver was fair reward for their defensive stalwart. Nil else.
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
0 goals against Ghana in a do-or-die WC qualification series. 0 goals in all 4 knockout games of the AFCON. Some ... striker!Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:11 pm so many daft people on this forum, my goodness. This thread is laughable , the funny part are the jokers here thinking they are making sense what a bunch of grown assssss wanna be bushboys, pure losers
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
0 goals against Ghana in a do-or-die WC qualification series. 0 goals in all 4 knockout games of the AFCON. 0+0 = 0! Some ... striker!ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:07 pm These thread is crazy.
Osimhen was involved in virtually all of our goal scoring chances,,
Scored one
Created one
Won two penalties
Pressured a defender that led to an own goal.
Scored two goals that was ruled out by VAR.
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How many chances were created by the midfield?
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Typical Nigeria blaming the wrong people.
The guy was playing with a stomach virus.
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
We should start calling him Osi-miss until he comes correct for us in big games.
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
Is Eto a striker? Was he the African footballer of the year during the 2004 Afcon?vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:13 pmMane is not a striker.aruako1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:44 pm2021 Mane 1 goal; 2004 Eto 1 goal. We won't allow this agenda to fly.vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:26 pmActually he doesn't. Not this year. He misses plenty of chances for Napoli, even last year when he was top scorer.
Anyways I said this long before anyone other than Bushboy, and of course was abused, as is always the case when you tell an inconvenient truth.
In fact I blame Osimehn for Peseiro changing formations, and for him playing coward football.
Had we beaten Equatorial Guinea 3 or 4-1 like our xgoals would have suggested, he likely would not have switched from the 433.
The reason we failed to beat EG was Osimehn.
The same Iwobi people abused for no assists and not being creative laid a sitter for Osimehn on a platter. The only game Iwobi played his real position.
Yet the chance was wasted, like flushing a winning lottery ticket down the drain.
Also was Mane missing sitters like Osimehn ?
Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
He was coming back from a very serious injury, though. Remember that? His cheekbone was caved in. They had to put a plate in it.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:24 pm0 goals against Ghana in a do-or-die WC qualification series. 0 goals in all 4 knockout games of the AFCON. 0+0 = 0! Some ... striker!ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:07 pm These thread is crazy.
Osimhen was involved in virtually all of our goal scoring chances,,
Scored one
Created one
Won two penalties
Pressured a defender that led to an own goal.
Scored two goals that was ruled out by VAR.
'
How many chances were created by the midfield?
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Typical Nigeria blaming the wrong people.
The guy was playing with a stomach virus.
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
Eto’o went to the World Cup with Cameroon 5 times and failed to get out of the group stage each time. Including a game against ten-man Germany in WC 2002 where they had to win to make it to the next round.aruako1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:53 pmIs Eto a striker? Was he the African footballer of the year during the 2004 Afcon?vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:13 pmMane is not a striker.aruako1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:44 pm2021 Mane 1 goal; 2004 Eto 1 goal. We won't allow this agenda to fly.vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:26 pmActually he doesn't. Not this year. He misses plenty of chances for Napoli, even last year when he was top scorer.
Anyways I said this long before anyone other than Bushboy, and of course was abused, as is always the case when you tell an inconvenient truth.
In fact I blame Osimehn for Peseiro changing formations, and for him playing coward football.
Had we beaten Equatorial Guinea 3 or 4-1 like our xgoals would have suggested, he likely would not have switched from the 433.
The reason we failed to beat EG was Osimehn.
The same Iwobi people abused for no assists and not being creative laid a sitter for Osimehn on a platter. The only game Iwobi played his real position.
Yet the chance was wasted, like flushing a winning lottery ticket down the drain.
Also was Mane missing sitters like Osimehn ?
He failed at the biggest stage with Cameroon. Not sure we want to use him as a yardstick for Osimhen
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
That is not an excuse. He tried(and failed) to execute several spectacular overhead kicks in the games against Ghana. You don’t try stuff like that if you are not match fit. There is also the small matter of failing to score a single goal in over 550 minutes of football at the AFCON. Not a single goal!Orion wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:58 pmHe was coming back from a very serious injury, though. Remember that? His cheekbone was caved in. They had to put a plate in it.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:24 pm0 goals against Ghana in a do-or-die WC qualification series. 0 goals in all 4 knockout games of the AFCON. 0+0 = 0! Some ... striker!ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:07 pm These thread is crazy.
Osimhen was involved in virtually all of our goal scoring chances,,
Scored one
Created one
Won two penalties
Pressured a defender that led to an own goal.
Scored two goals that was ruled out by VAR.
'
How many chances were created by the midfield?
R
Typical Nigeria blaming the wrong people.
The guy was playing with a stomach virus.
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
The deeper issue is if ...
Peserio or the next coach anchors his attacking approach on Osimhen, then the coach, and fans must review, and grasp why he failed to thrive in Wolfsburg after having failed to score in any of his 16 appearances, and then thrived in Napoli.
Lessons abound!!
The teacher would appear when the student is ready!!
Peserio or the next coach anchors his attacking approach on Osimhen, then the coach, and fans must review, and grasp why he failed to thrive in Wolfsburg after having failed to score in any of his 16 appearances, and then thrived in Napoli.
Lessons abound!!
The teacher would appear when the student is ready!!
Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
Osihmen is a mack. The amount of effort he puts into games is simply remarkable. He is fast, can leap higher than any defender and his defensive work is unmatched. A bonafide world class player
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
He is the highest scorer in AFCON history but we don't judge him because he scored only one goal in 2004. He even went on to win the African footballer of the year again that season.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:02 pmEto’o went to the World Cup with Cameroon 5 times and failed to get out of the group stage each time. Including a game against ten-man Germany in WC 2002 where they had to win to make it to the next round.aruako1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:53 pmIs Eto a striker? Was he the African footballer of the year during the 2004 Afcon?vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:13 pmMane is not a striker.aruako1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:44 pm2021 Mane 1 goal; 2004 Eto 1 goal. We won't allow this agenda to fly.vancity eagle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:26 pmActually he doesn't. Not this year. He misses plenty of chances for Napoli, even last year when he was top scorer.
Anyways I said this long before anyone other than Bushboy, and of course was abused, as is always the case when you tell an inconvenient truth.
In fact I blame Osimehn for Peseiro changing formations, and for him playing coward football.
Had we beaten Equatorial Guinea 3 or 4-1 like our xgoals would have suggested, he likely would not have switched from the 433.
The reason we failed to beat EG was Osimehn.
The same Iwobi people abused for no assists and not being creative laid a sitter for Osimehn on a platter. The only game Iwobi played his real position.
Yet the chance was wasted, like flushing a winning lottery ticket down the drain.
Also was Mane missing sitters like Osimehn ?
He failed at the biggest stage with Cameroon. Not sure we want to use him as a yardstick for Osimhen
Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
Who created those penalties Ekong was scoring? Without Osimhen, there would have been no penalty and no goal. He had some spectacular misses and was not the same player from the AFCON qualifiers, but there is no question that his contribution enabled us to get to the final.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:06 pmThat is not an excuse. He tried(and failed) to execute several spectacular overhead kicks in the games against Ghana. You don’t try stuff like that if you are not match fit. There is also the small matter of failing to score a single goal in over 550 minutes of football at the AFCON. Not a single goal!Orion wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:58 pmHe was coming back from a very serious injury, though. Remember that? His cheekbone was caved in. They had to put a plate in it.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:24 pm0 goals against Ghana in a do-or-die WC qualification series. 0 goals in all 4 knockout games of the AFCON. 0+0 = 0! Some ... striker!ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:07 pm These thread is crazy.
Osimhen was involved in virtually all of our goal scoring chances,,
Scored one
Created one
Won two penalties
Pressured a defender that led to an own goal.
Scored two goals that was ruled out by VAR.
'
How many chances were created by the midfield?
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Typical Nigeria blaming the wrong people.
The guy was playing with a stomach virus.
Remember that when Osimhen was unavailable in 2021, we didn't even get past the second round! So, this is not even a case of, oh the other guys would have done a better job if he was benched. When he wasn't available, we were worse!
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
I don’t really have an issue with Vic, but this is a weird description of a striker as none of those world class qualities you mentioned pertains to striking…Like so what if he can out jump everyone if he can’t actually head accurately? Then he’s just helping the opponents by clearing every good cross that comes in for a GK…What about his striking qualities?
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Please stop it bro. Vic has showed that he can score and do it efficiently, so this nonsense of criticizing him because he scored one goal in the AFCON is rather short-sighted.
Osihmen has scored all sorts of goals with his head and his feet. He was leading scorer in Serie A last season. In short, the guy is a good goal scorer and a natural leader. Vic has the highest goals per game average of any player who's played for Nigeria.
Osihmen has scored all sorts of goals with his head and his feet. He was leading scorer in Serie A last season. In short, the guy is a good goal scorer and a natural leader. Vic has the highest goals per game average of any player who's played for Nigeria.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:42 pmI don’t really have an issue with Vic, but this is a weird description of a striker as none of those world class qualities you mentioned pertains to striking…Like so what if he can out jump everyone if he can’t actually head accurately? Then he’s just helping the opponents by clearing every good cross that comes in for a GK…What about his striking qualities?
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It's so sad and shameful to see honestly.Bigpokey24 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:11 pm so many daft people on this forum, my goodness. This thread is laughable , the funny part are the jokers here thinking they are making sense what a bunch of grown assssss wanna be bushboys, pure losers
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I was just trying to understand your description. As I mentioned I don’t have any issues with Vic as he’s our best forward, but no world class striker would want to be described how you described Vic, that he’s just a hard working, high jumping ‘player’. You didn’t mention any striking skills in your description of a striker…you don’t think that’s odd? That’s what prompted my question…YUJAM wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:51 pm Please stop it bro. Vic has showed that he can score and do it efficiently, so this nonsense of criticizing him because he scored one goal in the AFCON is rather short-sighted.
Osihmen has scored all sorts of goals with his head and his feet. He was leading scorer in Serie A last season. In short, the guy is a good goal scorer and a natural leader. Vic has the highest goals per game average of any player who's played for Nigeria.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:42 pmI don’t really have an issue with Vic, but this is a weird description of a striker as none of those world class qualities you mentioned pertains to striking…Like so what if he can out jump everyone if he can’t actually head accurately? Then he’s just helping the opponents by clearing every good cross that comes in for a GK…What about his striking qualities?
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Re: Could not score against Ghana in 2 games to take us to the WC, one goal in 7 games at the AFCON
maceo4 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:42 pmI don’t really have an issue with Vic, but this is a weird description of a striker as none of those world class qualities you mentioned pertains to striking…Like so what if he can out jump everyone if he can’t actually head accurately? Then he’s just helping the opponents by clearing every good cross that comes in for a GK…What about his striking qualities?
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If we didn’t have Nwabali we probably wouldn’t have gotten out of the 1st round in this AFCON. Osimhen’s job is to score goals and keep the opposition honest. CIV disregarded him and swarmed us in the final because he wasn’t a threat to them.Orion wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:35 pmWho created those penalties Ekong was scoring? Without Osimhen, there would have been no penalty and no goal. He had some spectacular misses and was not the same player from the AFCON qualifiers, but there is no question that his contribution enabled us to get to the final.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:06 pmThat is not an excuse. He tried(and failed) to execute several spectacular overhead kicks in the games against Ghana. You don’t try stuff like that if you are not match fit. There is also the small matter of failing to score a single goal in over 550 minutes of football at the AFCON. Not a single goal!Orion wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:58 pmHe was coming back from a very serious injury, though. Remember that? His cheekbone was caved in. They had to put a plate in it.Scipio Africanus wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:24 pm0 goals against Ghana in a do-or-die WC qualification series. 0 goals in all 4 knockout games of the AFCON. 0+0 = 0! Some ... striker!ohenhen1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:07 pm These thread is crazy.
Osimhen was involved in virtually all of our goal scoring chances,,
Scored one
Created one
Won two penalties
Pressured a defender that led to an own goal.
Scored two goals that was ruled out by VAR.
'
How many chances were created by the midfield?
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Typical Nigeria blaming the wrong people.
The guy was playing with a stomach virus.
Remember that when Osimhen was unavailable in 2021, we didn't even get past the second round! So, this is not even a case of, oh the other guys would have done a better job if he was benched. When he wasn't available, we were worse!
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His stats speak for themselves. He is the complete package. What I described to you are just his extra qualities
maceo4 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:09 pmI was just trying to understand your description. As I mentioned I don’t have any issues with Vic as he’s our best forward, but no world class striker would want to be described how you described Vic, that he’s just a hard working, high jumping ‘player’. You didn’t mention any striking skills in your description of a striker…you don’t think that’s odd? That’s what prompted my question…YUJAM wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:51 pm Please stop it bro. Vic has showed that he can score and do it efficiently, so this nonsense of criticizing him because he scored one goal in the AFCON is rather short-sighted.
Osihmen has scored all sorts of goals with his head and his feet. He was leading scorer in Serie A last season. In short, the guy is a good goal scorer and a natural leader. Vic has the highest goals per game average of any player who's played for Nigeria.
maceo4 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:42 pmI don’t really have an issue with Vic, but this is a weird description of a striker as none of those world class qualities you mentioned pertains to striking…Like so what if he can out jump everyone if he can’t actually head accurately? Then he’s just helping the opponents by clearing every good cross that comes in for a GK…What about his striking qualities?
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There is no pattern anything, and this should not be justification for Osimehn not scoring goals. Rashidi Yekini was the reigning Afrcican footballer of the year going to Tunisia 94, he still ended up the tournament highest scorer. Peseiro's negative/defensive football did not do any good to Osimehn either, It only succeeded in reducing his confidence.aruako1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:45 amIn 2004 the then reigning African footballer of the year, Samuel Eto scored only 1 goal.Orion wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:33 am AFCON 2021
Mohamed Salah - 2 goals
Sadio Mane - 1 goal. Reigning AFOY at that time.
Both teams made the final. Both players had won the AFOY.
You guys need to relax. I've noticed a pattern here of singling out certain players for harsh criticism by setting a higher bar for them while others sail under the radar.
Ighalo was our best striker in 2019, but he was hounded out of the team prematurely because we supposedly had all these young guns waiting on the sidelines to take over and do a better job. Ha! So, what happened? They did nothing! Zero! We had to go bring Ighalo back when it was already too late.
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Plus he had 4 disallowed goals. He's definitely got it and did what was asked of him upfront very well. He also had an impact in almost all our goals. Like him or not, there's no Nigerian that can touch him in that position right now. Peeps just need to relax and understand what they did at this AFCON and the tactics employed.
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