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Jose Peseiro: Not Yet Goodbye! By Jude Ndukwe

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The now former coach of the Super Eagles of Nigeria, Jose Peseiro, left the job after his contract with the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) expired at the end of February. His exit has created a familiar debate usually associated with such circumstances: should we seek another foreign coach or should we settle for an indigenous coach to take over from him?

While some have argued that the next coach of the Super Eagles should be hired based on competence, track record and merit irrespective of where he comes from, others have said that they would prefer an indigenous coach to take over the saddle. Some have also insisted that Jose Peseiro should have been allowed to continue as coach of the senior national team especially as he surpassed the target of a semi-final ticket set for him by the NFF at the recently concluded AFCON 2023 tournament in Cote D’Ivoire.

Some of those who are angling for an indigenous coach have given reasons why they want a Nigerian to take charge of the Super Eagles going forward. The point of view of such people seems to be based more on sociopolitical issues more than competence and the need to sustain the new found momentum around our football as they argue that going for a foreign coach even if he is the best at his trade would amount to a continuation of colonialism.

One of such prominent Nigerians with this view is the highly respected ‘mathematical’ Segun Odegbami, one of Nigeria’s prodigious soccer legends. By the virtue of his experience and involvement in football over the decades, Segun Odegbami’s opinions on football are not only weighty but also worth serious considerations by serious stakeholders. After all, he is not ‘mathematical’ for nothing!

However, on this front, he may have faltered a bit. Football is too important to Nigeria and Nigerians to be decided by extraneous sociopolitical issues like colonialism over competence and the therapeutic reliefs and joy it brings us as a nation.

In his interview with NAN, Odegbami was reported to have said, “Unless we want to be enslaved forever, in our colonial mentality where we think that only the white can coach us to success.

“All around us, we hear about some Nigerians who are excelling in all fields of endeavours and they are leaving the country to go and help other countries.

“Football is not a rocket science, but a simple game, we have lots of Nigerians who have all the qualifications to take us to any level.

“For me, I won’t suffer from colonial mentality again and enough of foreign coaches, now, it’s time for a Nigerian Coach to handle our national team.”

While it is true that “we hear about some Nigerians who are excelling in all fields of endeavour and they are leaving the country to go and help other countries,” it is the same way nationals of other countries who are excelling in all fields of endeavour are leaving their countries to come to Nigeria to help us as a nation. No one country has it all.

Even in Europe, there are countries who have South Americans as coach. Albania has Sylvinho from Brazil as their national team coach; Gibraltar has Julio Cesar Ribas from Uruguay as coach. Even China, one of the world’s super powers and most advanced countries on major fronts of human endeavour, has Branko Ivankovic, a European from Croatia as their current national team coach. Between 1992 and today, China has had 21 national football team coaches with 11 of them being foreigners. Even among the other ten coaches of Chinese origin, six of them were appointed on a caretaker/interim basis and only four served on a permanent basis.

Iraq, a largely Islamic country, currently has a certain Jesus Casas, a Spaniard, as their national football team coach. The name Jesus was not to be a barrier when seeking the best hands to steer their team to success.

There are also several top European nations who have coaches of their national teams from countries other than theirs. Austria, Belgium, Portugal, Slovakia, Sweden, Turkey are among such countries.

So, countries who want to enjoy success shun all forms of biases to go for the best coaches they think would bring them the desired improvements and success in football. And it should be the same with Nigeria. It is not colonialism, it is globalisation! Colonialism is carting away our resources and using them for the development of other nations. And that is not the case in this circumstance. In fact, our players plying their trade all over the world are the ones using the resources of foreign countries to develop their skills and talents and return home to use them to advance our collective national cause in the highly competitive global scene.

Jose Peseiro worked in extremely difficult circumstances where motivation was at its lowest ebb having been owed a whopping six months salary at a point in his short stint with Nigeria. Yet, he kept his cool and never for once held the nation to ransom. At another time, he was forced to pay his preferred assistants from his own pocket. No nation should subject their coaches to such treatment no matter what if they want good results. But ours will always be different with zero personnel management but high expectation of results.

Things were not that smooth with our football to the extent that even the NFF began to have doubts in their own management style and gave Peseiro a semi-final target at AFCON 2023 when, with our pedigree, the target, if all things had worked well in the boardroom, should have been a minimum of appearance in the final. Yes, Nigeria is that big and with our array of players plying their trade all over the world, we should be targeting winning a good number of tournaments we partake in.

In spite of these snags, Peseiro kept on working. Even though his beginning was shaky, he eventually established himself as the type of coach Nigeria needs at this time. He did not only surpass the semi-final target set for him by the NFF, he brought joy to Nigerians at the peak of our economic hardship, insecurity and such other sociopolitical problems that beset the nation. For the first time in a long while, Nigerians found many reasons to not only love and support the Super Eagles again as it was in the days gone by, many wives started having a better understanding of what football meant to their husbands as they copiously stated in the social media. They started believing, started taking interest and started following the matches because Peseiro was able to mould the team into a truly winning team that played with grit and some flair. In following, the female supporters started having the understanding why their husbands are so committed to football, hence, promised better understanding and management of their husbands’ emotions arising from games. Better homes across the country will be the result. Thanks to Peseiro!

His brand of football revived the dwindled spirit of patriotism among Nigerians that even those who hitherto had no interest in the sport started taking note, thanks partly also to the social media. Before the tournament, morale was low among Nigerians but as the tournament went on, hope came alive and it increased with every match. Peseiro gave us bragging rights over many African nations.

He magically won the heart and confidence of the players that we could see they were not only playing for the country but also for him.

We had a really good tournament under his charge that several Nigerian footballers with dual nationalities are beginning to seriously consider switching permanently to represent Nigeria while those who for one reason or the other could not make it to the tournament are expressing their regrets. And who in their shoes would not? With William Troost-Ekong emerging the overall best player at AFCON, Stanley Nwabali narrowly missing out on being the best goalkeeper, Nigeria rising a significant 14 places in the FIFA ranking, and more, Nigeria’s glory days, like in the Clemence Westerhoff/Jo Bonfrere era, seem to be restored by Peseiro.

Nigeria has once again become attractive to football stars of international repute. Credit to Jose Peseiro. Unless we want to diminish this progress we have seen in our darling Super Eagles, I strongly advocate that we shun every sentiment and offer Peseiro a new and even improved contract. He deserves it. When the glory story is written, it is Nigeria and not Peseiro that will appear on the sheet!


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So they want to give this man a pay raise? lol
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ohenhen1 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:32 am So they want to give this man a pay raise? lol
He earned it. 2yrs $90k a month with a mandate to get to the WC semis. Nigerians were dancing in the streets during Afcon. How many times have you seen Nigerians dancing in the streets in your life? Some things have more value than money. We’re not interested in master pundit Oliseh.
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Nigerians and their love for mediocre white coaches.
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Yea. If Agwoturumbe, the palm-wine tapper, had gotten the CEO of Microsoft job, his salary too would have jumped from . . . you know what, nevermind. :roll:
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iworo wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:45 am https://owngoalnigeria.com/2024/03/04/n ... placement/
WHO KNOWS IF THIS IS TRUE, AFTERALL...


...you'll notice no name was offered making it impossible to place the alleged opinion in context? And who knows how widespread this feeling is anyway? That said, any player who doesn't want a Nigerian coach is welcome to leave. That player should be reminded that they just lost to an African team led by an African. I thought Peseiro said he has offers from up to six countries, so what's he waiting for?
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Bell wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:44 am
WHO KNOWS IF THIS IS TRUE, AFTERALL...


...you'll notice no name was offered making it impossible to place the alleged opinion in context? And who knows how widespread this feeling is anyway? That said, any player who doesn't want a Nigerian coach is welcome to leave. That player should be reminded that they just lost to an African team led by an African. I thought Peseiro said he has offers from up to six countries, so what's he waiting for?
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Bell, the truth is Peseiro is most likely waiting on the SE coach job, why?

The SE offer lots of perks not available in other countries.

1)He doesn't have to live in Nigeria. He comes to Nigeria, just before a match and leave after the match. Would he do this in other countries? The answer is NO.

2) In Nigeria, he is mostly not subject to local tax, in other countries, he will pay taxes.

The downside is, SE pay is irregular.
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iworo wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:21 am Jose Peseiro: Not Yet Goodbye! By Jude Ndukwe

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The now former coach of the Super Eagles of Nigeria, Jose Peseiro, left the job after his contract with the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) expired at the end of February. His exit has created a familiar debate usually associated with such circumstances: should we seek another foreign coach or should we settle for an indigenous coach to take over from him?

While some have argued that the next coach of the Super Eagles should be hired based on competence, track record and merit irrespective of where he comes from, others have said that they would prefer an indigenous coach to take over the saddle. Some have also insisted that Jose Peseiro should have been allowed to continue as coach of the senior national team especially as he surpassed the target of a semi-final ticket set for him by the NFF at the recently concluded AFCON 2023 tournament in Cote D’Ivoire.

Some of those who are angling for an indigenous coach have given reasons why they want a Nigerian to take charge of the Super Eagles going forward. The point of view of such people seems to be based more on sociopolitical issues more than competence and the need to sustain the new found momentum around our football as they argue that going for a foreign coach even if he is the best at his trade would amount to a continuation of colonialism.
Incorrect. It is based on both "sociopolitical" considerations, competence and more. Foreign coaches have not outperformed Nigerians.

One of such prominent Nigerians with this view is the highly respected ‘mathematical’ Segun Odegbami, one of Nigeria’s prodigious soccer legends. By the virtue of his experience and involvement in football over the decades, Segun Odegbami’s opinions on football are not only weighty but also worth serious considerations by serious stakeholders. After all, he is not ‘mathematical’ for nothing!

However, on this front, he may have faltered a bit. Football is too important to Nigeria and Nigerians to be decided by extraneous sociopolitical issues like colonialism over competence and the therapeutic reliefs and joy it brings us as a nation.
What an insult to Nigerians!!! That they are simpletons who lose their ability to reason when they see football. Was the so-called therapeutic relief missing when Keshi won it?

In his interview with NAN, Odegbami was reported to have said, “Unless we want to be enslaved forever, in our colonial mentality where we think that only the white can coach us to success.

“All around us, we hear about some Nigerians who are excelling in all fields of endeavours and they are leaving the country to go and help other countries.

“Football is not a rocket science, but a simple game, we have lots of Nigerians who have all the qualifications to take us to any level.

“For me, I won’t suffer from colonial mentality again and enough of foreign coaches, now, it’s time for a Nigerian Coach to handle our national team.”

While it is true that “we hear about some Nigerians who are excelling in all fields of endeavour and they are leaving the country to go and help other countries,” it is the same way nationals of other countries who are excelling in all fields of endeavour are leaving their countries to come to Nigeria to help us as a nation. No one country has it all.
Even if no country has it all, Nigeria, fortunately can generate coaches at least as good as the foreigners the NFF typically brings in. BTW, the players are far more important to success than a coach. That is why Westerhof, for example, had no comparable success before and after Nigeria.

Even in Europe, there are countries who have South Americans as coach. Albania has Sylvinho from Brazil as their national team coach; Gibraltar has Julio Cesar Ribas from Uruguay as coach. Even China, one of the world’s super powers and most advanced countries on major fronts of human endeavour, has Branko Ivankovic, a European from Croatia as their current national team coach. Between 1992 and today, China has had 21 national football team coaches with 11 of them being foreigners. Even among the other ten coaches of Chinese origin, six of them were appointed on a caretaker/interim basis and only four served on a permanent basis.

Iraq, a largely Islamic country, currently has a certain Jesus Casas, a Spaniard, as their national football team coach. The name Jesus was not to be a barrier when seeking the best hands to steer their team to success.

There are also several top European nations who have coaches of their national teams from countries other than theirs. Austria, Belgium, Portugal, Slovakia, Sweden, Turkey are among such countries.
It is delusionary to compare Nigeria to these countries. Most of them are highly accomplished in many areas and have a history of using their own coaches but may bring in a foreigner once in a while. Moreover, they can churn out indigenous coaches if forced to do so. That's not the case with Nigeria.

So, countries who want to enjoy success shun all forms of biases to go for the best coaches they think would bring them the desired improvements and success in football. And it should be the same with Nigeria. It is not colonialism, it is globalisation! Colonialism is carting away our resources and using them for the development of other nations. And that is not the case in this circumstance. In fact, our players plying their trade all over the world are the ones using the resources of foreign countries to develop their skills and talents and return home to use them to advance our collective national cause in the highly competitive global scene.
That would be great if Nigeria gives as it gets but the truth is that it is a one-way street with Nigeria where others export to Nigeria but Nigeria exports little. That's closer to colonialism than globalism.

Jose Peseiro worked in extremely difficult circumstances where motivation was at its lowest ebb having been owed a whopping six months salary at a point in his short stint with Nigeria. Yet, he kept his cool and never for once held the nation to ransom. At another time, he was forced to pay his preferred assistants from his own pocket. No nation should subject their coaches to such treatment no matter what if they want good results. But ours will always be different with zero personnel management but high expectation of results.
You think it's tough being in the shoes of Peseiro? Try being a Nigerian coach under the NFF - underpaid (when paid), second guessed, disrespected, underappreciated, just to mention a few.

Things were not that smooth with our football to the extent that even the NFF began to have doubts in their own management style and gave Peseiro a semi-final target at AFCON 2023 when, with our pedigree, the target, if all things had worked well in the boardroom, should have been a minimum of appearance in the final. Yes, Nigeria is that big and with our array of players plying their trade all over the world, we should be targeting winning a good number of tournaments we partake in.
I'm in full agreement here but who says a Nigerian coach cannot accomplish that?

In spite of these snags, Peseiro kept on working. Even though his beginning was shaky, he eventually established himself as the type of coach Nigeria needs at this time. He did not only surpass the semi-final target set for him by the NFF, he brought joy to Nigerians at the peak of our economic hardship, insecurity and such other sociopolitical problems that beset the nation. For the first time in a long while, Nigerians found many reasons to not only love and support the Super Eagles again as it was in the days gone by, many wives started having a better understanding of what football meant to their husbands as they copiously stated in the social media. They started believing, started taking interest and started following the matches because Peseiro was able to mould the team into a truly winning team that played with grit and some flair. In following, the female supporters started having the understanding why their husbands are so committed to football, hence, promised better understanding and management of their husbands’ emotions arising from games. Better homes across the country will be the result. Thanks to Peseiro!
And you think there are not Nigerians who can do this?

His brand of football revived the dwindled spirit of patriotism among Nigerians that even those who hitherto had no interest in the sport started taking note, thanks partly also to the social media. Before the tournament, morale was low among Nigerians but as the tournament went on, hope came alive and it increased with every match. Peseiro gave us bragging rights over many African nations.

He magically won the heart and confidence of the players that we could see they were not only playing for the country but also for him.
Didn't Keshi accomplish the same? For Nigeria (and Togo)?

We had a really good tournament under his charge that several Nigerian footballers with dual nationalities are beginning to seriously consider switching permanently to represent Nigeria while those who for one reason or the other could not make it to the tournament are expressing their regrets. And who in their shoes would not? With William Troost-Ekong emerging the overall best player at AFCON, Stanley Nwabali narrowly missing out on being the best goalkeeper, Nigeria rising a significant 14 places in the FIFA ranking, and more, Nigeria’s glory days, like in the Clemence Westerhoff/Jo Bonfrere era, seem to be restored by Peseiro.
Foreign born players switching allegiance is a growing worldwide practice and has taken place under both foreign and domestic coaches in NIgeria. It is not unique to Peseiro. Peseiro relied heavily on Osimhen, a man discovered and nurtured by a Nigerian coach - Amunike.

Nigeria has once again become attractive to football stars of international repute. Credit to Jose Peseiro. Unless we want to diminish this progress we have seen in our darling Super Eagles, I strongly advocate that we shun every sentiment and offer Peseiro a new and even improved contract. He deserves it. When the glory story is written, it is Nigeria and not Peseiro that will appear on the sheet!
Rubbish. Peseiro made it to the finals, something already accomplished by Nigerians. Did foreign coaches not making it this far set back Nigerian football? If so, why bring them back? Yes, the glory will be Nigeria's but there will be a note also saying it was accomplished under the leadership of a descendant of colonizers.
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fabio wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:25 am
Bell wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:44 am
WHO KNOWS IF THIS IS TRUE, AFTERALL...


...you'll notice no name was offered making it impossible to place the alleged opinion in context? And who knows how widespread this feeling is anyway? That said, any player who doesn't want a Nigerian coach is welcome to leave. That player should be reminded that they just lost to an African team led by an African. I thought Peseiro said he has offers from up to six countries, so what's he waiting for?
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Bell, the truth is Peseiro is most likely waiting on the SE coach job, why?

The SE offer lots of perks not available in other countries.

1)He doesn't have to live in Nigeria. He comes to Nigeria, just before a match and leave after the match. Would he do this in other countries? The answer is NO.

2) In Nigeria, he is mostly not subject to local tax, in other countries, he will pay taxes.

The downside is, SE pay is irregular.
YEP, IT IS ANOTHER DOWNSIDE OF FOREIGN COACHES


They, and understandably so, would leave when something better comes along because they are there for their personal interest. A Nigerian coach would do the same but will take a whole lot more.
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iworo wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:45 am https://owngoalnigeria.com/2024/03/04/n ... placement/
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Bell wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:38 am
fabio wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:25 am
Bell wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:44 am
WHO KNOWS IF THIS IS TRUE, AFTERALL...


...you'll notice no name was offered making it impossible to place the alleged opinion in context? And who knows how widespread this feeling is anyway? That said, any player who doesn't want a Nigerian coach is welcome to leave. That player should be reminded that they just lost to an African team led by an African. I thought Peseiro said he has offers from up to six countries, so what's he waiting for?
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Bell, the truth is Peseiro is most likely waiting on the SE coach job, why?

The SE offer lots of perks not available in other countries.

1)He doesn't have to live in Nigeria. He comes to Nigeria, just before a match and leave after the match. Would he do this in other countries? The answer is NO.

2) In Nigeria, he is mostly not subject to local tax, in other countries, he will pay taxes.

The downside is, SE pay is irregular.
YEP, IT IS ANOTHER DOWNSIDE OF FOREIGN COACHES


They, and understandably so, would leave when something better comes along because they are there for their personal interest. A Nigerian coach would do the same but will take a whole lot more.
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iworo wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:45 am https://owngoalnigeria.com/2024/03/04/n ... placement/
This is the highest level of colomentality! The two most successful Nigerian coaches are Westerhoff and Keshi, yet people keep saying this! Why?
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Bell wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:38 am
fabio wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:25 am
Bell wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:44 am
WHO KNOWS IF THIS IS TRUE, AFTERALL...


...you'll notice no name was offered making it impossible to place the alleged opinion in context? And who knows how widespread this feeling is anyway? That said, any player who doesn't want a Nigerian coach is welcome to leave. That player should be reminded that they just lost to an African team led by an African. I thought Peseiro said he has offers from up to six countries, so what's he waiting for?
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Bell, the truth is Peseiro is most likely waiting on the SE coach job, why?

The SE offer lots of perks not available in other countries.

1)He doesn't have to live in Nigeria. He comes to Nigeria, just before a match and leave after the match. Would he do this in other countries? The answer is NO.

2) In Nigeria, he is mostly not subject to local tax, in other countries, he will pay taxes.

The downside is, SE pay is irregular.
YEP, IT IS ANOTHER DOWNSIDE OF FOREIGN COACHES


They, and understandably so, would leave when something better comes along because they are there for their personal interest. A Nigerian coach would do the same but will take a whole lot more.
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Unfortunately Bell, you people’s personal interest angle dey always do me one kine.

Is ‘personal interest’ exclusive to foreigners?
Are Nigerians known for doing jobs for free?
Do we even have a ‘volunteer’ culture in Nigeria?
Who says it would take “a whole lot more” for a Nigerian to waka for a better offer?
Really? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Why is it not possible for a foreign coach to have personal interest as well as a love of the job with the best interest of the team, at heart?
Are they mutually exclusive?
You people love to paint these foreigners as demons just for the sake of pushing your own angle.

Maybe you and others are simply projecting your own sentiments because there’s really no basis for even suggesting they are there solely for their personal interests. For true professionals, a job is a job and you do it to the best of your ability once you’ve signed the contract.

I really can’t imagine how I could be managing a team - any kind of team - and not form meaningful relationships with the team members as well as wanting to achieve collectively.
How can it just be about me and my personal interests?
That’s only something I’ve mostly encountered with Nigerians - the whole “no be my Papa business” mentality. Yet they will still ‘collect salary’. 8-)

The thing lacking in all these debates is the player angle.
I’m almost certain their views will be light years away from the views of we the fans on platforms such as this.
It easy for us to paint the Rohr’s and Pesriros in a negative light by any means possible.

But we don’t know them and we casually say all these things as if fact, just to suit our personal agendas.
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Bell wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:38 am
fabio wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:25 am
Bell wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:44 am
WHO KNOWS IF THIS IS TRUE, AFTERALL...


...you'll notice no name was offered making it impossible to place the alleged opinion in context? And who knows how widespread this feeling is anyway? That said, any player who doesn't want a Nigerian coach is welcome to leave. That player should be reminded that they just lost to an African team led by an African. I thought Peseiro said he has offers from up to six countries, so what's he waiting for?
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Bell, the truth is Peseiro is most likely waiting on the SE coach job, why?

The SE offer lots of perks not available in other countries.

1)He doesn't have to live in Nigeria. He comes to Nigeria, just before a match and leave after the match. Would he do this in other countries? The answer is NO.

2) In Nigeria, he is mostly not subject to local tax, in other countries, he will pay taxes.

The downside is, SE pay is irregular.
YEP, IT IS ANOTHER DOWNSIDE OF FOREIGN COACHES


They, and understandably so, would leave when something better comes along because they are there for their personal interest. A Nigerian coach would do the same but will take a whole lot more.
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What a very ... intellectual :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :woot: :woot: :woot: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: contribution :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Wha choo looking at?!
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NFF dismisses Eguavoen as Super Eagles’ interim coach

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The Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) has described the purported appointment of former Nigeria international, Austin Eguavoen, as an interim manager of the Super Eagles after Portuguese coach Jose Peseiro stepped down at the weekend as ‘a joke taken too far’.
Though Eguavoen has been the NFF’s Technical Director since 2020, he was appointed the Super Eagles manager on an interim basis for the 2021 Africa Cup of Nations, following the departure of German coach Gernot Rohr.

He later returned to his Technical Director’s job after the Super Eagles crashed out of the AFCON 2021 following an agonising defeat to Tunisia in the round of sixteen.

Following the exit of Peseiro at the weekend, there has been overflowing news in a section of the main media and social media that Eguavoen has been mandated by the NFF to step in as the interim manager of the Super Eagles. While Enyimba International coach, Finidi George, who was Peseiro’s assistant to the recently concluded AFCON in Cote d’Ivore, will serve as Eguavoen’s assistant until the NFF names a substantive manager for the Super Eagles ahead of upcoming international engagements, including the qualifiers for the 2026 FIFA World Cup double-header against South Africa in June 2024.

But a decent source at the NFF yesterday dismissed with a wave of the hand the purported Eguavoen’s link to the Super Eagles job, adding that the former national team captain is not even being considered to take over on an interim basis.

“There’s nothing for Eguavoen as far as I know, and, in fact, nobody ever mentioned him in any capacity for the Super Eagles,” the source said, adding that those thrusting Eguavoen forward for the job are only jokers.

“I think those guys are just joking. Nobody has mentioned Eguavoen as Super Eagles’ interim manager.”

Incidentally, some callers on the Lagos-based Sports radio station, Brila FM, have kicked against the possible return of Eguavoen as the Super Eagles manager; they described him as a misfit for what is regarded as one of the most high profile coaching jobs in the world.

“Please, tell the Nigeria Football Federation not to appoint Eguavoen as Super Eagles coach; we no go to the World Cup again because that Baba don’t know anything o. He is not a better coach o and we no go gree NFF o,” an angry caller said yesterday.

Another said:“ Who did this to Nigeria? Has Eguavoen forced himself upon us? I think we have to blame the NFF, who don’t know what they are doing. The NFF has not come out with any categorical statement after Peseiro ‘s contract expired. I think it’s the prerogative of Eguavoen to step in as an interim coach since he’s the Technical Director of the NFF, but all we want now is for the NFF to do the right thing.”

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Damunk wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:47 am
iworo wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:45 am https://owngoalnigeria.com/2024/03/04/n ... placement/
No quotes and it is OwnGoal.
No story here, abeg.
The main guy at owngoal (Mowiz) has a personal relationship with Moses Simon.

Use that as you please.
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Damunk wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:05 am
Bell wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:38 am
fabio wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:25 am
Bell wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:44 am
WHO KNOWS IF THIS IS TRUE, AFTERALL...


...you'll notice no name was offered making it impossible to place the alleged opinion in context? And who knows how widespread this feeling is anyway? That said, any player who doesn't want a Nigerian coach is welcome to leave. That player should be reminded that they just lost to an African team led by an African. I thought Peseiro said he has offers from up to six countries, so what's he waiting for?
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Bell, the truth is Peseiro is most likely waiting on the SE coach job, why?

The SE offer lots of perks not available in other countries.

1)He doesn't have to live in Nigeria. He comes to Nigeria, just before a match and leave after the match. Would he do this in other countries? The answer is NO.

2) In Nigeria, he is mostly not subject to local tax, in other countries, he will pay taxes.

The downside is, SE pay is irregular.
YEP, IT IS ANOTHER DOWNSIDE OF FOREIGN COACHES


They, and understandably so, would leave when something better comes along because they are there for their personal interest. A Nigerian coach would do the same but will take a whole lot more.
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Unfortunately Bell, you people’s personal interest angle dey always do me one kine.

Is ‘personal interest’ exclusive to foreigners?
Are Nigerians known for doing jobs for free?
Do we even have a ‘volunteer’ culture in Nigeria?
Who says it would take “a whole lot more” for a Nigerian to waka for a better offer?
Really? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Why is it not possible for a foreign coach to have personal interest as well as a love of the job with the best interest of the team, at heart?
Are they mutually exclusive?
You people love to paint these foreigners as demons just for the sake of pushing your own angle.

Maybe you and others are simply projecting your own sentiments because there’s really no basis for even suggesting they are there solely for their personal interests. For true professionals, a job is a job and you do it to the best of your ability once you’ve signed the contract.

I really can’t imagine how I could be managing a team - any kind of team - and not form meaningful relationships with the team members as well as wanting to achieve collectively.
How can it just be about me and my personal interests?
That’s only something I’ve mostly encountered with Nigerians - the whole “no be my Papa business” mentality. Yet they will still ‘collect salary’. 8-)

The thing lacking in all these debates is the player angle.
I’m almost certain their views will be light years away from the views of we the fans on platforms such as this.
It easy for us to paint the Rohr’s and Pesriros in a negative light by any means possible.

But we don’t know them and we casually say all these things as if fact, just to suit our personal agendas.
Do you mind those folks. They think that their opinions are more valuable than the players themselves
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iworo wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:38 pm
This coach was built to deal with Nigerians, :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: bobo has got something , if he agrees the new contract i am sure things will pan out for us
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