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....that boy is special.
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What's criminal is the abuse your abuse of young Vic Osihmen on a daily basis.
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SAKA'S PARENTS ARE FULL BLOODED NIGERIANS. AND...


...there are many like him in Nigeria buried under the incompetence of Nigeria's (lack of) planning and opportunities. Would Saka be anything today if he was born in Nigeria?
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Bell wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:53 am SAKA'S PARENTS ARE FULL BLOODED NIGERIANS. AND...


...there are many like him in Nigeria buried under the incompetence of Nigeria's (lack of) planning and opportunities. Would Saka be anything today if he was born in Nigeria?
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Pls have Saka’s parents call Chukwueze’s parents so they can offer the anointing water Saka drank to Chukwueze, :thumb:
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:26 am
Bell wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:53 am SAKA'S PARENTS ARE FULL BLOODED NIGERIANS. AND...


...there are many like him in Nigeria buried under the incompetence of Nigeria's (lack of) planning and opportunities. Would Saka be anything today if he was born in Nigeria?
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Pls have Saka’s parents call Chukwueze’s parents so they can offer the anointing water Saka drank to Chukwueze, :thumb:
No need. Some People here said Chukwuwze is world class.
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EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:26 am
Bell wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:53 am SAKA'S PARENTS ARE FULL BLOODED NIGERIANS. AND...


...there are many like him in Nigeria buried under the incompetence of Nigeria's (lack of) planning and opportunities. Would Saka be anything today if he was born in Nigeria?
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Pls have Saka’s parents call Chukwueze’s parents so they can offer the anointing water Saka drank to Chukwueze, :thumb:
THANKS VERY MUCH


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Even if Saka chose Nigeria, his effectiveness would only be as good as the coach and NFF allows him to be.

There would be no point of having a sword one cannot use properly.
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kendo wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:03 am Even if Saka chose Nigeria, his effectiveness would only be as good as the coach and NFF allows him to be.

There would be no point of having a sword one cannot use properly.
True.
Sakas kind of raw talent is in abundance in Nigeria.
That is not the issue.
I know we are in denial, but it’s the development of that talent that is not happening.
It’s not by chance.
Saka obviously benefitted at Arsenal from one of the best science-based youth development programs with all its facilities in the world.

That’s why Saka is Saka, while his Nigerian equivalent is still playing under Eko bridge.
Let Iheanacho tell us what his eyes saw at the Man City Youth Academy with people like Patrick Viera lecturing him.

Na beans?
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bushboy wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:54 pm ....that boy is special.
...Arsenal and England made him special, Nigeria cannot.
If he had switched who knows by now. Might have been abused, cupped injury, neglected by your FA, etc.
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Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:57 am
kendo wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:03 am Even if Saka chose Nigeria, his effectiveness would only be as good as the coach and NFF allows him to be.

There would be no point of having a sword one cannot use properly.
True.
Sakas kind of raw talent is in abundance in Nigeria.
That is not the issue.
I know we are in denial, but it’s the development of that talent that is not happening.
It’s not by chance.
Saka obviously benefitted at Arsenal from one of the best science-based youth development programs with all its facilities in the world.

That’s why Saka is Saka, while his Nigerian equivalent is still playing under Eko bridge.
Let Iheanacho tell us what his eyes saw at the Man City Youth Academy with people like Patrick Viera lecturing him.

Na beans?


Its ironic that BELL for all his claims and advocacy for Nigerian coaches does not understand the real issues, even when its starring at him in the face, as his comments above show...
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No shame, no competence. 200 million people and begging for Europeans, just useless.
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Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:57 am
kendo wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:03 am Even if Saka chose Nigeria, his effectiveness would only be as good as the coach and NFF allows him to be.

There would be no point of having a sword one cannot use properly.
True.
Sakas kind of raw talent is in abundance in Nigeria.
That is not the issue.
I know we are in denial, but it’s the development of that talent that is not happening.
It’s not by chance.
Saka obviously benefitted at Arsenal from one of the best science-based youth development programs with all its facilities in the world.

That’s why Saka is Saka, while his Nigerian equivalent is still playing under Eko bridge.
Let Iheanacho tell us what his eyes saw at the Man City Youth Academy with people like Patrick Viera lecturing him.

Na beans?
Development of such talent is happening bros. However, there are many that do not development but that is not unique with Nigeria. There are many incredible talents all over the world that do not always develop as well. Let me point to basketball for asn example, there are hundreds of incredible USA talent at a junior level and many of them never get to the NBA. There are numerous reasons for that including the dedication of the talent himself/herself.
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bushboy wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:54 pm ....that boy is special.
VERY special.... I recall when he had not yet declared that he would play for England and was thinking of the Nigerian option. He was at the camp organized by Pinnick, in London, BTW. At the time, I had written that if he were to choose Nigeria he will mark the first time such a talent will choose NIGERIA. That remains the case, today. In my view, I would not blame Pinnick in any way or form. This is the player's decision. Ultimately, as I have always stated the player will gravitate towards an environment in which they have labored and are comfortable with. It is not rocket science but a social reality. The only way these guys will choose Nigeria is if the first and preferred option is not available.
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I opened this thread thinking it would be old, only to find out it's 2024!
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Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:57 am
kendo wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:03 am Even if Saka chose Nigeria, his effectiveness would only be as good as the coach and NFF allows him to be.

There would be no point of having a sword one cannot use properly.
True.
Sakas kind of raw talent is in abundance in Nigeria.
That is not the issue.
I know we are in denial, but it’s the development of that talent that is not happening.
It’s not by chance.
Saka obviously benefitted at Arsenal from one of the best science-based youth development programs with all its facilities in the world.

That’s why Saka is Saka, while his Nigerian equivalent is still playing under Eko bridge.
Let Iheanacho tell us what his eyes saw at the Man City Youth Academy with people like Patrick Viera lecturing him.

Na beans?

Ouch
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Enugu II wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:24 pm
bushboy wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:54 pm ....that boy is special.
VERY special.... I recall when he had not yet declared that he would play for England and was thinking of the Nigerian option. He was at the camp organized by Pinnick, in London, BTW. At the time, I had written that if he were to choose Nigeria he will mark the first time such a talent will choose NIGERIA. That remains the case, today. In my view, I would not blame Pinnick in any way or form. This is the player's decision. Ultimately, as I have always stated the player will gravitate towards an environment in which they have labored and are comfortable with. It is not rocket science but a social reality. The only way these guys will choose Nigeria is if the first and preferred option is not available.
He’s way overrated … and this is coming from an Arsenal fan for life
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mcal wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:25 pm
bushboy wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:54 pm ....that boy is special.
...Arsenal and England made him special, Nigeria cannot.
If he had switched who knows by now. Might have been abused, cupped injury, neglected by your FA, etc.
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Damunk wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:57 am
kendo wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:03 am Even if Saka chose Nigeria, his effectiveness would only be as good as the coach and NFF allows him to be.

There would be no point of having a sword one cannot use properly.
True.
Sakas kind of raw talent is in abundance in Nigeria.
That is not the issue.
I know we are in denial, but it’s the development of that talent that is not happening.
It’s not by chance.
Saka obviously benefitted at Arsenal from one of the best science-based youth development programs with all its facilities in the world.

That’s why Saka is Saka, while his Nigerian equivalent is still playing under Eko bridge.
Let Iheanacho tell us what his eyes saw at the Man City Youth Academy with people like Patrick Viera lecturing him.

Na beans?
Bro, that’s the “football education” that some people don’t understand!
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Sleaky72 wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:54 pm
Enugu II wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:24 pm
bushboy wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:54 pm ....that boy is special.
VERY special.... I recall when he had not yet declared that he would play for England and was thinking of the Nigerian option. He was at the camp organized by Pinnick, in London, BTW. At the time, I had written that if he were to choose Nigeria he will mark the first time such a talent will choose NIGERIA. That remains the case, today. In my view, I would not blame Pinnick in any way or form. This is the player's decision. Ultimately, as I have always stated the player will gravitate towards an environment in which they have labored and are comfortable with. It is not rocket science but a social reality. The only way these guys will choose Nigeria is if the first and preferred option is not available.
He’s way overrated … and this is coming from an Arsenal fan for life
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You really think so? Wow. I think he is not. No one on current SE can deliver a more precise cross, it is not even close. Moreover, Saka is individually skilled. At this moment, he would be by miles an automatic choice for Nigeria. No one on SE is even close, if you ask me.
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Saka chose England,move on.
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No sh1zz Bushboy. :dream:

Anyway special players like Saka will almost always choose their Euro sides. It's the same story for the likes of Mbappe, Dembele, Doku and others. So I don't think you can blame Pinnick for Saka choosing England over Nigeria
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The love some folks have for players like Saka is simply not reciprocated in Saka’s decision. A lot of Nigerians feel Saka belongs to them but Saka sees himself as British first and an English man 2nd. His allegiance to Nigerian is all about jollof rice and Davido, not to be taken seriously. Imho, we had a better chance of getting Harry Kane than Saka. He never considered Nigeria.
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