ANNOYED AS HELL....Rumors on the proposed hiring of Dutch Manager
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ANNOYED AS HELL....Rumors on the proposed hiring of Dutch Manager
Yesterday, I had an annoying conversation with an NFF official on the issue of hiring a manager for the SE. I will keep the name of the official anonymous but will discuss the kernel of the issue. My understanding is that pone of the managers that someone is pushing for is one Danny Buijs, the Dutch manager at Eredivisie club Fortuna Sittard.
Danny Buijs
First, I never heard of this guy until the conversation. I then went on wiki to learn a bit more. Well, he is on Wiki which means at least a few people know him. After all he is coaching in the Eredivisie. I give him that prop. But what exactly is his record? He has been coaching since 2016. But his record, to state the least, is unremarkable. At Groningen, he won 50 games but lost 60! As a footballer, he was unremarkable.
Now, compare him to Finidi George, think of George’s international career and then think of his club career. This Buijs’ guy is not even fit to clean Finidi’s shoe both as player and as manager. Finidi started his managerial career a bit later than Buijs but has won the league as Manager. What exactly has Buijs done as Manager? If this does not rile you, then I wonder what would.
Clearly, to me, some of these NFF guys are simply swept off their feet simply because someone is European but granted, we know that such thinking is widely present also on CE. It is also possible that a push for guys like Buijs is based on the under the table monetary benefits that occur, reportedly, from hiring of a foreign national as Manager.
What exactly does this guy have that the likes of Finidi, Amuneke, and others don’t? In my view if you want to hire a non-Nigerian it is okay, but it better be one that clearly is a difference masker. Buijs is not that guy.
Danny Buijs
First, I never heard of this guy until the conversation. I then went on wiki to learn a bit more. Well, he is on Wiki which means at least a few people know him. After all he is coaching in the Eredivisie. I give him that prop. But what exactly is his record? He has been coaching since 2016. But his record, to state the least, is unremarkable. At Groningen, he won 50 games but lost 60! As a footballer, he was unremarkable.
Now, compare him to Finidi George, think of George’s international career and then think of his club career. This Buijs’ guy is not even fit to clean Finidi’s shoe both as player and as manager. Finidi started his managerial career a bit later than Buijs but has won the league as Manager. What exactly has Buijs done as Manager? If this does not rile you, then I wonder what would.
Clearly, to me, some of these NFF guys are simply swept off their feet simply because someone is European but granted, we know that such thinking is widely present also on CE. It is also possible that a push for guys like Buijs is based on the under the table monetary benefits that occur, reportedly, from hiring of a foreign national as Manager.
What exactly does this guy have that the likes of Finidi, Amuneke, and others don’t? In my view if you want to hire a non-Nigerian it is okay, but it better be one that clearly is a difference masker. Buijs is not that guy.
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, stop stressing yourself let them continue to do what they like, one day the people will deal with themSuperEagles
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I’m all out for Finidi unless we come up with a performing and experienced foreign coach.
Meanwhile I hate this ‘white’ coach narrative instead of ‘foreign’ coach
It’s so patronizing and deliberately framed that way by our Nigerian Freedom Fighters keen on showing they are proud black people.
But sentiments aside, can you publish the Managerial records of all three for comparison?
Playing careers have nothing to do with it.
Some of the top managers in the world had mediocre playing careers or non at all, while some of the world’s very best footballers spectacularly failed as managers.
So their managerial careers is what’s important and it would be nice to compare the records of Finidi, Amuneke and this guy who as u rightly said, nobody knows.
Meanwhile I hate this ‘white’ coach narrative instead of ‘foreign’ coach
It’s so patronizing and deliberately framed that way by our Nigerian Freedom Fighters keen on showing they are proud black people.
But sentiments aside, can you publish the Managerial records of all three for comparison?
Playing careers have nothing to do with it.
Some of the top managers in the world had mediocre playing careers or non at all, while some of the world’s very best footballers spectacularly failed as managers.
So their managerial careers is what’s important and it would be nice to compare the records of Finidi, Amuneke and this guy who as u rightly said, nobody knows.
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DamunkDamunk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:19 pm I’m all out for Finidi unless we come up with a performing and experienced foreign coach.
Meanwhile I hate this ‘white’ coach narrative instead of ‘foreign’ coach
It’s so patronizing and deliberately framed that way by our Nigerian Freedom Fighters keen on showing they are proud black people.
But sentiments aside, can you publish the Managerial records of all three for comparison?
Playing careers have nothing to do with it.
Some of the top managers in the world had mediocre playing careers or non at all, while some of the world’s very best footballers spectacularly failed as managers.
So their managerial careers is what’s important and it would be nice to compare the records of Finidi, Amuneke and this guy who as u rightly said, nobody knows.
As you mentioned, the annoying thing is that this guy is a non achiever. I am stating as per his managerial career.! Compare to Finidi who won the League at Enyimba and we cannot even compare their playing career. You can simply Google the guy's career.
NFF hiring this guy or someone of his calber will be a travesty.
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I am in support of Finidi to get this job because based on merit he won the last NPFL and he has been assistant coach if he can imbibe some of the good of Peseiro regime. The good was mainly in Afcon is compactness and defensive structure.Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:50 pm Yesterday, I had an annoying conversation with an NFF official on the issue of hiring a manager for the SE. I will keep the name of the official anonymous but will discuss the kernel of the issue. My understanding is that pone of the managers that someone is pushing for is one Danny Buijs, the Dutch manager at Eredivisie club Fortuna Sittard.
Danny Buijs
First, I never heard of this guy until the conversation. I then went on wiki to learn a bit more. Well, he is on Wiki which means at least a few people know him. After all he is coaching in the Eredivisie. I give him that prop. But what exactly is his record? He has been coaching since 2016. But his record, to state the least, is unremarkable. At Groningen, he won 50 games but lost 60! As a footballer, he was unremarkable.
Now, compare him to Finidi George, think of George’s international career and then think of his club career. This Buijs’ guy is not even fit to clean Finidi’s shoe both as player and as manager. Finidi started his managerial career a bit later than Buijs but has won the league as Manager. What exactly has Buijs done as Manager? If this does not rile you, then I wonder what would.
Clearly, to me, some of these NFF guys are simply swept off their feet simply because someone is European but granted, we know that such thinking is widely present also on CE. It is also possible that a push for guys like Buijs is based on the under the table monetary benefits that occur, reportedly, from hiring of a foreign national as Manager.
What exactly does this guy have that the likes of Finidi, Amuneke, and others don’t? In my view if you want to hire a non-Nigerian it is okay, but it better be one that clearly is a difference masker. Buijs is not that guy.
When your team is hard to score against, winning football matches becomes easier. What Finidi needs to succeed is to work on the midfield especially the attacking portion and continue to invite new players to sharpen the attach and defence. I am hoping he can incorporate one or two raw talent with that energy that eagles are lacking.
Also if i was NFF i would employ the Remo Stars coach to build a CHAN team with objective to win WAFU and CHAN. What stops the CHAN eagles from playing friendly matches against other CHAN teams?
The advantage the European coaches have is organization but they easily getting the support and respect fromt eh foreign pros.
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I’m all for hiring a foreign coach but this one makes no sense. I’m sorry but some people at the NFF must be getting a cut from hiring these journey man foreign coaches. Finidi did let us down big time but I’ll rather give him a few more chances than hiring this underachiever. Now our resident black panthers that like to call people WOWO will act like they didn’t see my post denouncing hiring this Dutch coach.
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guilty conscience don dey hold one career student. hmmmm
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he is a young coach sha, 41 years old. What if he is being hired to work with Finidi?
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Enugu, but he coached and coaches one of the lower teams in holland, the fact that he has 50 wins , 28 draws and 60 loses isn't a bad result for coaching Groningen. His current team Fortuna are 10th in the Eredivisie
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On 1 June 2022, Buijs was hired by Belgian club Mechelen.[9] On 17 October 2022 he was sacked and replaced by assistant Steven Defour. [10]
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Fortuna SittardHISTORY
This is an overview of the career of a manager.
Compact
Detailed
Club & role Appointed In charge until Matches PPM
Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard
Manager 23/24 (Jul 1, 2023) expected Jun 30, 2025 33 1.33
KV Mechelen KV Mechelen
Manager 22/23 (Jul 1, 2022) 22/23 (Oct 17, 2022) 11 1.00
FC Groningen FC Groningen
Manager 18/19 (Jul 1, 2018) 21/22 (Jun 30, 2022) 136 1.29
Kozakken Boys Kozakken Boys
Manager 14/15 (Jul 1, 2014) 17/18 (Jun 30, 2018) 122 1.89
KV MechelenDate Competition Season MD Home Team Result Away Team Tactic
Apr 6, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 29 Twente FC Twente Enschede FC 2:0 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-2-3-1
Apr 2, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 28 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 1:1 NEC Nijmegen NEC Nijmegen 4-3-3 Defending
Mar 30, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 27 Sparta R. Sparta Rotterdam 4:0 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Mar 16, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 26 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 3:1 PEC Zwolle PEC Zwolle 4-3-3 Defending
Mar 10, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 25 Ajax Ajax Amsterdam 2:2 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Mar 3, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 24 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 5:2 Excelsior Rotterdam Excelsior 4-3-3 Defending
Feb 24, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 23 RKC Waalwijk RKC Waalwijk 0:1 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Feb 17, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 22 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 1:2 AZ Alkmaar AZ Alkmaar 4-3-3 Defending
Feb 11, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 21 FC Utrecht FC Utrecht 4:0 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Feb 8, 2024 KNVB Beker 23/24 Quarter-Finals FC Groningen FC Groningen 4:3 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Feb 3, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 20 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 3:3 SC Heerenveen Heerenveen 4-3-3 Defending
Jan 28, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 19 FC Volendam FC Volendam 0:1 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 3-4-1-2
Jan 24, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 18 Almere City Almere City FC 0:0 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 3-4-1-2
Jan 17, 2024 KNVB Beker 23/24 Round of 16 Almere City Almere City FC 1:2 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 3-4-1-2
Jan 13, 2024 Eredivisie 23/24 17 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 0:2 Sparta Rotterdam Sparta R. 4-3-3 Defending
Dec 19, 2023 KNVB Beker 23/24 Second Round FC Eindhoven FC Eindhoven 0:2 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Dec 15, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 16 NEC Nijmegen NEC Nijmegen 4:1 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Dec 10, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 15 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 1:0 RKC Waalwijk RKC Waalwijk 4-3-3 Defending
Dec 2, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 14 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 3:1 Vitesse Arnhem Vitesse 4-3-3 Defending
Nov 25, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 13 Heerenveen SC Heerenveen 3:0 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 3-4-1-2
Nov 10, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 12 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4:1 Heracles Almelo Heracles Almelo 4-3-3 Defending
Nov 5, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 11 PEC Zwolle PEC Zwolle 2:0 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Nov 1, 2023 KNVB Beker 23/24 First Round Sparta Nijkerk Sparta Nijkerk 0:1 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Oct 28, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 10 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 0:0 FC Utrecht FC Utrecht 4-3-3 Defending
Oct 21, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 9 PSV Eindhoven PSV Eindhoven 3:1 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Oct 8, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 8 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 0:3 Twente Enschede FC Twente FC 4-4-2 double 6
Oct 1, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 7 AZ Alkmaar AZ Alkmaar 4:0 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Sep 22, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 6 Go Ahead Eagles Go Ahead Eagles 3:0 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Sep 16, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 5 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 3:1 FC Volendam FC Volendam 4-3-3 Defending
Sep 3, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 4 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 0:0 Ajax Amsterdam Ajax 4-3-3 Defending
Aug 26, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 3 Excelsior Excelsior Rotterdam 2:2 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
Aug 19, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 2 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 2:1 Almere City FC Almere City 4-3-3 Defending
Aug 13, 2023 Eredivisie 23/24 1 Feyenoord Feyenoord Rotterdam 0:0 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-3-3 Defending
FC GroningenDate Competition Season MD Home Team Result Away Team Tactic
Oct 16, 2022 Jupiler Pro League 22/23 12 KAA Gent KAA Gent 3:0 KV Mechelen KV Mechelen 4-2-3-1
Oct 9, 2022 Jupiler Pro League 22/23 11 KV Mechelen KV Mechelen 1:3 RSC Anderlecht RSC Anderlecht 4-3-3 Defending
Sep 17, 2022 Jupiler Pro League 22/23 9 KV Mechelen KV Mechelen 0:0 Oud-Heverlee Leuven OH Leuven 4-3-3 Defending
Sep 10, 2022 Jupiler Pro League 22/23 8 KV Kortrijk KV Kortrijk 1:4 KV Mechelen KV Mechelen 4-3-3 Defending
Sep 3, 2022 Jupiler Pro League 22/23 7 KV Mechelen KV Mechelen 2:3 RFC Seraing RFC Seraing 4-3-3 Defending
Aug 27, 2022 Jupiler Pro League 22/23 6 Sint-Truiden Sint-Truidense VV 3:1 KV Mechelen KV Mechelen 4-3-3 Defending
Aug 21, 2022 Jupiler Pro League 22/23 5 KV Mechelen KV Mechelen 5:4 KVC Westerlo KVC Westerlo 4-3-3 Defending
Aug 13, 2022 Jupiler Pro League 22/23 4 Cercle Brugge Cercle Brugge 0:0 KV Mechelen KV Mechelen 4-3-3 Defending
Aug 6, 2022 Jupiler Pro League 22/23 3 KV Mechelen KV Mechelen 3:0 Union Saint-Gilloise Union SG 4-3-3 Defending
Jul 30, 2022 Jupiler Pro League 22/23 2 KV Oostende KV Oostende 2:1 KV Mechelen KV Mechelen 4-3-3 Defending
Jul 24, 2022 Jupiler Pro League 22/23 1 KV Mechelen KV Mechelen 0:2 Royal Antwerp FC Royal Antwerp 5-4-1 Diamond
Date Competition Season MD Home Team Result Away Team Tactic
May 15, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 34 FC Groningen FC Groningen 2:3 SC Cambuur Leeuwarden SC Cambuur 4-3-3 Defending
May 11, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 33 Twente FC Twente Enschede FC 3:0 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-5-2 Attacking
May 7, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 32 FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:2 Sparta Rotterdam Sparta R. 3-4-3 Diamond
May 1, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 31 RKC Waalwijk RKC Waalwijk 3:1 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-5-2 Attacking
Apr 24, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 30 FC Groningen FC Groningen 0:1 Heracles Almelo Heracles Almelo 4-3-3 Defending
Apr 10, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 29 Heerenveen SC Heerenveen 3:1 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4-3-3 Defending
Apr 2, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 28 FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:3 Ajax Amsterdam Ajax 4-3-3 Defending
Mar 20, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 27 FC Utrecht FC Utrecht 1:3 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4-3-3 Defending
Mar 12, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 26 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4:3 NEC Nijmegen NEC Nijmegen 3-4-3
Feb 26, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 24 FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:0 Willem II Tilburg Willem II 4-3-3 Defending
Feb 20, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 23 PEC Zwolle PEC Zwolle 1:1 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4-3-3 Defending
Feb 12, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 22 FC Groningen FC Groningen 0:1 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 5-4-1 Diamond
Feb 6, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 21 FC Groningen FC Groningen 2:1 Go Ahead Eagles Go Ahead Eagles 3-4-3 Diamond
Jan 22, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 20 Vitesse Vitesse Arnhem 1:3 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-5-2
Jan 19, 2022 KNVB Beker 21/22 Third Round FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:2 NEC Nijmegen NEC Nijmegen 3-4-3 Diamond
Jan 16, 2022 Eredivisie 21/22 19 FC Groningen FC Groningen 0:1 PSV Eindhoven PSV Eindhoven 4-3-3 Defending
Dec 21, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 18 AZ Alkmaar AZ Alkmaar 1:0 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4-3-3 Defending
Dec 18, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 17 Heracles Almelo Heracles Almelo 4:2 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4-4-2 double 6
Dec 15, 2021 KNVB Beker 21/22 Second Round Excelsior Excelsior Rotterdam 2:4 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-4-3
Dec 12, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 16 FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:1 Feyenoord Rotterdam Feyenoord 3-5-2
Dec 3, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 15 FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:1 PEC Zwolle PEC Zwolle 4-1-4-1
Nov 27, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 14 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 1:4 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4-4-2 double 6
Nov 21, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 13 Go Ahead Eagles Go Ahead Eagles 0:1 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4-4-2 Diamond
Nov 7, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 12 FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:1 RKC Waalwijk RKC Waalwijk 4-4-2 Diamond
Oct 31, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 11 NEC Nijmegen NEC Nijmegen 3:0 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-4-2-1
Oct 27, 2021 KNVB Beker 21/22 First Round FC Groningen FC Groningen 4:0 Helmond Sport Helmond Sport 3-4-2-1
Oct 24, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 10 FC Groningen FC Groningen 2:0 AZ Alkmaar AZ Alkmaar 3-4-3
Oct 17, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 9 Sparta R. Sparta Rotterdam 1:1 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4-4-2 double 6
Oct 1, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 8 FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:1 Twente Enschede FC Twente FC 4-3-3 Defending
Sep 25, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 7 Ajax Ajax Amsterdam 3:0 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-4-3
Sep 22, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 6 FC Groningen FC Groningen 0:1 Vitesse Arnhem Vitesse 3-4-3
Sep 18, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 5 Willem II Willem II Tilburg 2:1 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-4-2-1
Sep 12, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 4 FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:1 SC Heerenveen Heerenveen 3-4-3
Aug 28, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 3 PSV Eindhoven PSV Eindhoven 5:2 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-4-3 Diamond
Aug 21, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 2 FC Groningen FC Groningen 0:0 FC Utrecht FC Utrecht 3-4-3 Diamond
Aug 15, 2021 Eredivisie 21/22 1 SC Cambuur SC Cambuur Leeuwarden 1:2 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4-2-3-1
May 19, 2021 Play-Offs Conference League 20/21 Semi-Finals FC Utrecht FC Utrecht 1:0 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-4-2-1
May 16, 2021 Eredivisie 20/21 34 PEC Zwolle PEC Zwolle 1:0 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-5-2 Attacking
May 13, 2021 Eredivisie 20/21 33 FC Groningen FC Groningen 0:0 AZ Alkmaar AZ Alkmaar 4-2-3-1
May 9, 2021 Eredivisie 20/21 32 FC Emmen FC Emmen 0:4 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4-3-3 Defending
May 2, 2021 Eredivisie 20/21 31 FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:2 Sparta Rotterdam Sparta R. 4-3-3 Attacking
Apr 24, 2021 Eredivisie 20/21 30 PSV Eindhoven PSV Eindhoven 1:0 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-4-2-1
Apr 11, 2021 Eredivisie 20/21 29 FC Groningen FC Groningen 0:2 SC Heerenveen Heerenveen 4-3-3 Defending
Apr 3, 2021 Eredivisie 20/21 28 VVV-Venlo VVV-Venlo 0:1 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-5-2
Mar 20, 2021 Eredivisie 20/21 27 RKC Waalwijk RKC Waalwijk 3:1 FC Groningen FC Groningen 3-5-2 Attacking
Mar 13, 2021 Eredivisie 20/21 26 FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:1 FC Emmen FC Emmen 4-2-3-1
Mar 7, 2021 Eredivisie 20/21 25 Ajax Ajax Amsterdam 3:1 FC Groningen FC Groningen 4-4-2 double 6
Feb 28, 2021 Eredivisie 20/21 24 FC Groningen FC Groningen 1:0 Fortuna Sittard Fortuna Sittard 4-2-3-1
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Re: ANNOYED AS HELL....Rumors on the proposed hiring of Dutch Manager
a few games this season
The pressing here looks impressive
The pressing here looks impressive
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i think this was the club Oliseh coached a while back
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He is a good option, because, he would not quit his job. He will manage SE, the same Randy manages the SF. So, it's win, win.
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IF you want to, you can watch them right now vs Feyenord on ESPN+
https://www.hulu.com/watch/9d75bc01-a1a ... 43bd968579
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Let the slaves hire their next Master. Also follow the money. They must get kickbacks from the hiring of foreign coaches. No wonder they always want to pay them so much more.
I have decided if they appoint a foreign coach, I will NOT support the team.
I have decided if they appoint a foreign coach, I will NOT support the team.
Re: ANNOYED AS HELL....Rumors on the proposed hiring of Dutch Manager
Stori. If true, why the effort to revive the career of journeymen coaches? It appears that is the unspoken criteria for selection. The candidate, and the NFF have to share that understanding for all following things to fall in place. In the entire Europe, why hasn't he be given better opportunity than where he is? It has to be the SuperEagles he will be offered an internship?
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Until the day Nigerian coaches can get the same level of access to European managers, judging merely by teams coached is wrong. And while it may annoy you, it doesn't change the fact that there is a white coach boas in Nigeria (and a few other African countries).Damunk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:19 pm I’m all out for Finidi unless we come up with a performing and experienced foreign coach.
Meanwhile I hate this ‘white’ coach narrative instead of ‘foreign’ coach
It’s so patronizing and deliberately framed that way by our Nigerian Freedom Fighters keen on showing they are proud black people.
But sentiments aside, can you publish the Managerial records of all three for comparison?
Playing careers have nothing to do with it.
Some of the top managers in the world had mediocre playing careers or non at all, while some of the world’s very best footballers spectacularly failed as managers.
So their managerial careers is what’s important and it would be nice to compare the records of Finidi, Amuneke and this guy who as u rightly said, nobody knows.
On the Fortuna Sittard coach, by all means he should be considered but if I were on the panel I would want to understand what he knows about African football. He might not be such a bad choice as I've just read that he likes to play intense, fast paced football. He is also young and hungry.
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As long as his teams play good, free-flowing attacking football, then I'm ok with it.
He will have better players to work with in the SE than the Eredivisie. His philosophy is all I care about. After all, Alonso did nothing until he got a chance with good players at Leverkusen.
He will have better players to work with in the SE than the Eredivisie. His philosophy is all I care about. After all, Alonso did nothing until he got a chance with good players at Leverkusen.
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KPOMbushboy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:19 pm As long as his teams play good, free-flowing attacking football, then I'm ok with it.
He will have better players to work with in the SE than the Eredivisie. His philosophy is all I care about. After all, Alonso did nothing until he got a chance with good players at Leverkusen.
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This is why i think i fancy him, bobo is also well rated in Holland . I think we should research properly before going gagaaruako1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:07 pmUntil the day Nigerian coaches can get the same level of access to European managers, judging merely by teams coached is wrong. And while it may annoy you, it doesn't change the fact that there is a white coach boas in Nigeria (and a few other African countries).Damunk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:19 pm I’m all out for Finidi unless we come up with a performing and experienced foreign coach.
Meanwhile I hate this ‘white’ coach narrative instead of ‘foreign’ coach
It’s so patronizing and deliberately framed that way by our Nigerian Freedom Fighters keen on showing they are proud black people.
But sentiments aside, can you publish the Managerial records of all three for comparison?
Playing careers have nothing to do with it.
Some of the top managers in the world had mediocre playing careers or non at all, while some of the world’s very best footballers spectacularly failed as managers.
So their managerial careers is what’s important and it would be nice to compare the records of Finidi, Amuneke and this guy who as u rightly said, nobody knows.
On the Fortuna Sittard coach, by all means he should be considered but if I were on the panel I would want to understand what he knows about African football. He might not be such a bad choice as I've just read that he likes to play intense, fast paced football. He is also young and hungry.
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Nonsense post. I will take him over Finidi any day of the week. At least he won't leave a Bundesliga champion on the bench and invite bums playing in Tanzania.
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Name him or delete this. This is hearsay.
Enugu II wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:50 pm Yesterday, I had an annoying conversation with an NFF official on the issue of hiring a manager for the SE. I will keep the name of the official anonymous but will discuss the kernel of the issue. My understanding is that pone of the managers that someone is pushing for is one Danny Buijs, the Dutch manager at Eredivisie club Fortuna Sittard.
Danny Buijs
First, I never heard of this guy until the conversation. I then went on wiki to learn a bit more. Well, he is on Wiki which means at least a few people know him. After all he is coaching in the Eredivisie. I give him that prop. But what exactly is his record? He has been coaching since 2016. But his record, to state the least, is unremarkable. At Groningen, he won 50 games but lost 60! As a footballer, he was unremarkable.
Now, compare him to Finidi George, think of George’s international career and then think of his club career. This Buijs’ guy is not even fit to clean Finidi’s shoe both as player and as manager. Finidi started his managerial career a bit later than Buijs but has won the league as Manager. What exactly has Buijs done as Manager? If this does not rile you, then I wonder what would.
Clearly, to me, some of these NFF guys are simply swept off their feet simply because someone is European but granted, we know that such thinking is widely present also on CE. It is also possible that a push for guys like Buijs is based on the under the table monetary benefits that occur, reportedly, from hiring of a foreign national as Manager.
What exactly does this guy have that the likes of Finidi, Amuneke, and others don’t? In my view if you want to hire a non-Nigerian it is okay, but it better be one that clearly is a difference masker. Buijs is not that guy.
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