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The NFF should give Finidi a contract that will end after the WC 2026

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Own goal is spreading a rumor that it is going to be a 1 year contract with option for an extension based on reaching semifinals of AFCON. This stupid nonsense clause don come again. What if Afcon is posponed again what will they do. If I were Finidi I would reject that clause. I will want a standard 2 year contract or until after WC 2026, No more triggering clause nonsense. At tbe end of the WC 2026 sn extension can be negotiated based on mutual interest. Also dont include a clause that will make it easy for the NFF to fire you like the clause they used against Keshi. The coach must also control player selection.
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I think the NFF legal department have pre printed contracts and they don't change it. That reaching semifinals of Afcon clause is in thepre printed contract that they offer to SE coaches. Change is not easy.
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What will happen if Finidi decides he wants a huge pay increase after Afcon ? Will we be left without a coach again ?
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So it was OK to have a semifinal clause when it was a foreign coach, but for your local hero he doesn't need to have any targets at all ?

Many of you are even claiming that qualification for WC 2026 is not a must.

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vancity eagle wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:59 pm So it was OK to have a semifinal clause when it was a foreign coach, but for your local hero he doesn't need to have any targets at all ?

Many of you are even claiming that qualification for WC 2026 is not a must.

You guys are complete frauds.
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Clauses like Peseiro must coach at Afcon. Semifinal targets is why we are in this current mess. Afcon was postponed to 2024. NFF was afraid or pretended to be affraid that if they fired him in July when his contract expired they would be in breach of his contract. So they negotiated a pay cut and brought Peseiro back in September. The guy went on to create a mess by drawing with Lesotho and Zimbabwe. He then reedemed himself by reaching the Afcon final, meeting that Semifinals clause. Peseiro then told the NFF he wanted a pay increase. The NFF wanted the Sports ministry to pay it. The sports minister agreed. But Pesiero at the end of day bowed out. Now Nigeria is in the niddle of world cup qualifications without a head coach. The NFF took their time. Waited until the end of April to appoint a coach. Now they want to start the cyle again with idiotic contract clause.

We need to stop doing idiotic things. Give Finidi a contract until after the WC. No more target clauss. After 2026 if they want to extend Finidi or hire a new coach. Give that coach a 4 year contract until after the 2030 world cup. No more tournament target clauses.
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I agree that a semi final clause is stupid.

But YOU SUPPORTED IT when it was for Peseiro.
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vancity eagle wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:10 pm I agree that a semi final clause is stupid.

But YOU SUPPORTED IT when it was for Peseiro.
Should there be a benchmark? If so, what should it be?
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ohenhen1 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:43 pm Own goal is spreading a rumor that it is going to be a 1 year contract with option for an extension based on reaching semifinals of AFCON. This stupid nonsense clause don come again. What if Afcon is posponed again what will they do. If I were Finidi I would reject that clause. I will want a standard 2 year contract or until after WC 2026, No more triggering clause nonsense. At tbe end of the WC 2026 sn extension can be negotiated based on mutual interest. Also dont include a clause that will make it easy for the NFF to fire you like the clause they used against Keshi. The coach must also control player selection.
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Enugu II wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:27 pm
vancity eagle wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:10 pm I agree that a semi final clause is stupid.

But YOU SUPPORTED IT when it was for Peseiro.
Should there be a benchmark? If so, what should it be?
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None is required. I actually agree with Ohenhen that the NFF should do away with target based clauses but replace those with reasonable ‘fire for cause’ clauses🤔❗️


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Finidi's job is only guaranteed for 30 days. If he doesn't come out of the SA and Benin games with at least 4pts he's a gonna.. fact.
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Enugu II wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:27 pm
vancity eagle wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:10 pm I agree that a semi final clause is stupid.

But YOU SUPPORTED IT when it was for Peseiro.
Should there be a benchmark? If so, what should it be?
I think it should be more subjective.

Ie. Are we playing well and making satisfactory progress ?

For example suppose Aliou Cisse was under such a contract as Peseiro.

Do you think he should be fired because Senegal was knocked out by penalties in the 2nd round to the eventual champions ?
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vancity eagle wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 12:55 am
Enugu II wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:27 pm
vancity eagle wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:10 pm I agree that a semi final clause is stupid.

But YOU SUPPORTED IT when it was for Peseiro.
Should there be a benchmark? If so, what should it be?
I think it should be more subjective.

Ie. Are we playing well and making satisfactory progress ?

For example suppose Aliou Cisse was under such a contract as Peseiro.

Do you think he should be fired because Senegal was knocked out by penalties in the 2nd round to the eventual champions ?
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That is actually what you should NOT DO.

It is better to develop a measurable criteria to avoid making decisions that are extremely subjective. The only problem I see with reaching the final four of an AFCON is that it is much more difficult than qualifying for a World Cup.
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The clause should be like contract until after WC or Afcon. There should be a start and end date.
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Enugu II wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 2:42 am
vancity eagle wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 12:55 am
Enugu II wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 9:27 pm
vancity eagle wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 8:10 pm I agree that a semi final clause is stupid.

But YOU SUPPORTED IT when it was for Peseiro.
Should there be a benchmark? If so, what should it be?
I think it should be more subjective.

Ie. Are we playing well and making satisfactory progress ?

For example suppose Aliou Cisse was under such a contract as Peseiro.

Do you think he should be fired because Senegal was knocked out by penalties in the 2nd round to the eventual champions ?
VE

That is actually what you should NOT DO.

It is better to develop a measurable criteria to avoid making decisions that are extremely subjective. The only problem I see with reaching the final four of an AFCON is that it is much more difficult than qualifying for a World Cup.
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Yes, AFCON is a much more difficult tournament than World Cup qualifying. The best teams on paper can be knocked out in any round for any number of reasons not related to coaching incompetence. However, one can conclude that if, for example, a team projected to reach the finals fails to win a single game in the round robin stage then a very strong case can be made for coaching incompetence🤔❗️


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