Our boys have not been paid a kobo in Faro

Talk IT · Post by **Talk IT** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:06 pm

The team co-ordinator is the person responsible for this.
Ayo, next time you call try to speak with Bello Osagie.
The players should be paid something as daily allowance no matter how small. But if they're insisting on match bonus thats way out of order.

Ayo Akinfe · Post by **Ayo Akinfe** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:10 pm

Cellular, do you live in the real world? Are you really telling me that you have never heard of the daily camp allowance ?

Man, your own JJC defies belief. I can only assume that you are a very young man who is probaly still a student and yet to experience the realities of the commercial world. By the way, the last time I came to the US on official business, I was paid a daily allowance of $200 a day by the US Grain Council.

I carry some of di money go buy dem Suya, Okuns, Hard Man, Pa J, Metho Scorpion and Gadfly go buy pounded yam, as dem never eat am since dem comot from Naija!

MI5 · Post by **MI5** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:18 pm

NFA OLE NFA OLE dem don chop di players allowance again cheii dis career criminals are defying logic every hour kaii...

Robbynice · Post by **Robbynice** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:20 pm

Ayo Akinfe, I have been wanting to know. Why do everyone that disagree with you always have to be a young man?

I don't get it.

Sir V · Post by **Sir V** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:26 pm

Ayo Akinfe wrote:Cellular, do you live in the real world? Are you really telling me that you have never heard of the daily camp allowance ?

Man, your own JJC defies belief. I can only assume that you are a very young man who is probaly still a student and yet to experience the realities of the commercial world. By the way, the last time I came to the US on official business, I was paid a daily allowance of $200 a day by the US Grain Council.

I carry some of di money go buy dem Suya, Okuns, Hard Man, Pa J, Metho Scorpion and Gadfly go buy pounded yam, as dem never eat am since dem comot from Naija!

Ayo is very right. In the old good days when i used to go to camp we were paid on daily basis. The NFA should stick to the agreement.

Robbynice · Post by **Robbynice** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:29 pm

Sir V wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:Cellular, do you live in the real world? Are you really telling me that you have never heard of the daily camp allowance ?

Man, your own JJC defies belief. I can only assume that you are a very young man who is probaly still a student and yet to experience the realities of the commercial world. By the way, the last time I came to the US on official business, I was paid a daily allowance of $200 a day by the US Grain Council.

I carry some of di money go buy dem Suya, Okuns, Hard Man, Pa J, Metho Scorpion and Gadfly go buy pounded yam, as dem never eat am since dem comot from Naija!

Ayo is very right. In the old good days when i used to go to camp we were paid on daily basis. The NFA should stick to the agreement.

The question now is what is the agreement? Does Ayo know what and what was agreed to prior to camp?

Ayo Akinfe · Post by **Ayo Akinfe** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:36 pm

Robbynice wrote:Ayo Akinfe, I have been wanting to know. Why do everyone that disagree with you always have to be a young man? I don't get it.

Robbynice, Yujam, Ezesports and Gotti disagree with me everyday and they are not "Young men." I have arguments with the elder statesmen on this forum such as Suya and Enugu II.

My point is that Cellular sounds like a teenager. Is he really telling me that he has not heard of the daily camping allowance before? Even Nigerian secondary school pupils who play in the Principals Cup get it.

In any sport, in any country in any given year, athletes are paid a daily camping allowance when they are camped for a tournament. You ask about the rate but that is a secondary matter. If it was $1 a day or $200 a day is irrelevant to this argument. The fact is that they have not been paid anything.

Post by **Cellular** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:57 pm

Once again, Ayo! There's a difference between an "honorarium" which you received as the guest of US Grain Council and the "Stipend" and “Match Bonus” our boys in Faro are asking for… (and for what amounts to be a scrimmage).

I don’t know how it works in the UK but here in the US, players don’t get paid for training camp or for preseason games be it NFL, NBA, or MLB…

Ps. Since you know the details of the negotiations between Okocha and Ogunjobi as regards to the bonuses, do you mind sharing it with us?

Pps. Again, you assume too much… you don’t know my background either educational or professional…

Jiggerman21 · Post by **Jiggerman21** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:00 pm

Suya is an elder statesman?
WOW, what a funky elder- with all these internet skillz.

Ayo,
I don't believe we are arguing over player allowances. After all, we all knew this was going to happen. It is standard for NFA to chop money and claim poverty. No be so?

mystic · Post by **mystic** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:11 pm

Cellular:

NFL and NBA players get training camp allowances. I suspect it is the same with Major League Baseball players.

Ayo Akinfe · Post by **Ayo Akinfe** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:14 pm

Cellular, let me understand you here. Are you saying that in the US, players in the "soccer" national team would not be paid a daily allowance if they are in camp?

furiously frank · Post by **furiously frank** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:18 pm

Robby: Why bother, Ayo, obviously has an agenda and anyone that expose that will be labelled a young boy. As long as he get the upfront payment he is asking for from NFA, all is well... even if the friendlies never take place....ofcourse he will come back here to rave and rile about how incompetent and corrupt NFA is.... Na wah

chopeski · Post by **chopeski** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:26 pm

Now I understaqnd why Martins will not want to be a part of this nonsense!

RudeBoy · Post by **RudeBoy** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 11:02 pm

Chopeski, Sharaaap there one time! Weytin be nonsense? You here one side of the story and you begin dey judge.

Sir V · Post by **Sir V** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 12:25 am

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anikulapo · Post by **anikulapo** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:37 am

Eagle Winged wrote:And yet some people wonder why Martins is reluctant to play for Nigeria.
And yet some some houseboys like to defend the NFA and and its cronies.
And yet some people think we'll win the ANC.
And yet some people will moan when we dont.

Thank you very much...We have too many MYOPIANS here

anikulapo · Post by **anikulapo** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:41 am

Cellular wrote:Once again, Ayo! There's a difference between an "honorarium" which you received as the guest of US Grain Council and the "Stipend" and “Match Bonus” our boys in Faro are asking for… (and for what amounts to be a scrimmage).

I don’t know how it works in the UK but here in the US, players don’t get paid for training camp or for preseason games be it NFL, NBA, or MLB…

Ps. Since you know the details of the negotiations between Okocha and Ogunjobi as regards to the bonuses, do you mind sharing it with us?

Pps. Again, you assume too much… you don’t know my background either educational or professional…

Cellular: Please stop exposing your ignorance...Who told you that US pros dont get paid for pre-season games....Where did you get that from?

Man mi, get real abeg

RudeBoy · Post by **RudeBoy** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:53 am

3 points:

1. I think Ayo should pay some of his $200 a day allowance he got when in the US to his boys in camp.

2. Nigeria is not the USA and therefore cannot expect to pay the sums being bandied about by AA

3. Why was AA removed as a Moderator?

furiously frank · Post by **furiously frank** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 7:53 am

RB: You asked

"Why was AA removed as a Moderator?"

I have been itching for someone to ask this question, Ayo was never, I repeat never removed or "demoted" as a moderator. He voluntarily request during the migration to this new site to be excluded from moderating duties as he does not wish to act as a moderator.
However very characteristic of him he has been insinuating and inputing something else, and even went as far as calling Rogba a dictator, saying that Rogba deletes people anyhow. This is far from the truth, there is nothing Rogba has done without going thru the moderator section, I mean he will always run every minute detail with us. the Eze and NFA chairman saga was mandated by all moderators and Rogba was not the moderator that brought up the issue of unauthorized advert up, but anoda moderator and we all authorized a censure of the "participes criminis", even though Rogba as the site Admin has the misfortune of having to confront the folks involve, he send several PM to warn them and they never heeded. How anyone can call that dictatorial beats me hollow. Ayo, on the other hand was never a team player, and would often run off with ideas to the main page without first going thru the moderator's meeting room as required.

Most moderators find him very difficult to work with as he is always set in his way and there is nothing anyone could do to rein him in.

I decided to bring this out giving the impression he has created in his several post on this issue.

Having said this however we all know Ayo and have tried to work around some of this problem and will always tried to accomodate him, but he does not wish to be a moderator at this time and I believe we should respect that position. Thanks

Ayo Akinfe · Post by **Ayo Akinfe** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:04 am

furiously frank wrote:Robby: Why bother, Ayo, obviously has an agenda and anyone that expose that will be labelled a young boy. As long as he get the upfront payment he is asking for from NFA, all is well... even if the friendlies never take place....ofcourse he will come back here to rave and rile about how incompetent and corrupt NFA is.... Na wah

FF, you have been making these insinuations for a while and I have chose to ignore you. Can I just remind you that your statements are libelous.

I hope the matter will rest here and we will not need to take it any further. This shall be my last warning to you.

quickie · Post by **quickie** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 12:06 pm

chopeski wrote:Now I understaqnd why Martins will not want to be a part of this nonsense!

Ehn-Ehn.....don't make excuses for martins. EVERY footballer that has played for Nigeria has gone through this type of inconvenience/hitch at some point or the other.

That is no excuse for Martins to start break dancing at the last minute.

There are some 'inconveniences' that EVERY Nigerian goes through because he/she is Nigerian. Make Martins nor open mouth use that as excuse at all at all.

Q

Ayo Akinfe · Post by **Ayo Akinfe** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 12:40 pm

RudeBoy wrote:3 points:

1. I think Ayo should pay some of his $200 a day allowance he got when in the US to his boys in camp.

2. Nigeria is not the USA and therefore cannot expect to pay the sums being bandied about by AA

3. Why was AA removed as a Moderator?

We are not arguing about sums here. What we are talking about is the principle. Nigeria may not be able to pay as much as the US but whatever was agreed upon should be paid.

Robbynice · Post by **Robbynice** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 1:07 pm

Ayo Akinfe wrote:
RudeBoy wrote:3 points:

1. I think Ayo should pay some of his $200 a day allowance he got when in the US to his boys in camp.

2. Nigeria is not the USA and therefore cannot expect to pay the sums being bandied about by AA

3. Why was AA removed as a Moderator?
We are not arguing about sums here. What we are talking about is the principle. Nigeria may not be able to pay as much as the US but whatever was agreed upon should be paid.

Again I ask, exactly what was agreed on?