Our boys have not been paid a kobo in Faro

Robbynice · Post by **Robbynice** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 12:55 am

lagos777 wrote:Where is Robbynice when you need em. NFA needs some Kudos.

lagos777, I am here alive and well. I don't need to say anything because Yujam said it all when he said and I quote

Hold up a sec here. I have been very critical of the NFA, but you cannot expect them to start paying players right now. After all, aren't they covering hotel expenses at the moment. Other than the air tickets, and hotel expenses, I don't believe the NFA is obliged to pay these players anything at the moment.

Adding more to what he said IMO will be uncivilized.

Larry Ashagbe · Post by **Larry Ashagbe** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:06 am

What is the set guidelines regarding payments during camping at FARO?

NFA has no set procedures regarding payments for camping and players expectations are high as well especially the local boys.

Its a Goal · Post by **Its a Goal** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:23 am

Ayo, it is wrong for the players to go camp and begin shelling out like there is no tomorrow. I can understand having to pay for phonecards and public transportation, however to expect the NFA to provide funds for players to go to resturants when their catering needs are already been met amounts to greediness. Further more, these guys have only been in camp 1 week, isn't it a bit too early to pay them?

balo · Post by **balo** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:43 am

Its a Goal wrote:Ayo, it is wrong for the players to go camp and begin shelling out like there is no tomorrow. I can understand having to pay for phonecards and public transportation, however to expect the NFA to provide funds for players to go to resturants when their catering needs are already been met amounts to greediness. Further more, these guys have only been in camp 1 week, isn't it a bit too early to pay them?

IAG, Ayo was not assuming that the NFA should cover all these expenses. He simply listed what some players may have spent their money on. With that said, Are the players to be paid weekly? If so, then they should have gotten their money. It's bull to think players should not be paid for the "inconsequential" part of the FARO camp. They are duty-bound to be in FARO, hence should be paid.

lagos777 · Post by **lagos777** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:44 am

Was there a fee schedule arranged by NFA for the camping period ? Was this what Ogunjobi agreed to ?
Robbynice, I knew you were gonna pop up .

Larry Ashagbe · Post by **Larry Ashagbe** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:49 am

The boys deserved to be paid some money however little it might be.

HAWKEYE · Post by **HAWKEYE** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 2:55 am

Larry,
As far as I know, per diem is paid on disbandment of a squad or the convertion from open to close camp for those leaving. As far as Faro is concerned, the welfare officer would have the register of when each player arrived. I doubt if bonuses are paid for friendlies that do not attract gate fees. Anyways, most of those in what I term CCC's "open camp " presently are not being used as fodders. Every coaching crew requires depth on the bench in a tournament lasting 3 weeks, hence I see Faro serving two purposes - one, is for CCC to evaluate his bench options, and possibly some positions he hadn't made up his mind about, and secondly (more importantly for the SE wannabes) afford those in camp the opportunity to sell themselves to International agent reps. that are parading every African camp site now.
Those talking to the boys should educate them if they are conversant with the procedures or find out from those in authority b/4 crying wolf.
Watch out, wannabes especially Nigeria - based ones, who excel at these friendlies would be heading for Europe come summer.

Larry Ashagbe · Post by **Larry Ashagbe** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 3:15 am

HAWKEYE,

Wise words of advice for the wannabes.

I hope they are listening.

Enugu II · Post by **Enugu II** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 3:16 am

Hawkeye:

You surely hit the nail on the head. I mostly sympathize with the players but I shook my head when I read that players are asking for appearance fees in games that amount to practice matches or at best exhibition. Games in which no gates were unlikely to have been taken. Very soon we would hear that players are asking for appearance fees for intrasquad games or each practice session.

My advice to Ayo is to ask those players if they indeed expect to be paid for those games? That is certainly a shock to me. As far as I am concerned the players should expect the camp allowances and no more.

Bigpokey24 · Post by **Bigpokey24** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 3:18 am

u sick yansh suckers, eg ayokinfe una don start with wahala agian oooo, leave nfa to do their jobs, why dont u go and become warefare officer or something,thats how u tried to 419 peeps with robson, and if u dont know peeps get serious bad belle for u and dem really one wound u . A Yansh

is enough for the yansh sucker

Robbynice · Post by **Robbynice** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 3:42 am

lagos777 wrote:Was there a fee schedule arranged by NFA for the camping period ? Was this what Ogunjobi agreed to ?
Robbynice, I knew you were gonna pop up .

Ol'boy as the saying goes, it is only a matter of time.

But on a more serious note we need to evaluate a situation very well before we start dishing out blames. Yujam, Hawkeye, and Enugu II have siad it all. Anything more will be too much IMHO.

RudeBoy · Post by **RudeBoy** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 3:44 am

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BabaNaija · Post by **BabaNaija** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:09 am

Eagle Winged wrote:
Kneedeep wrote:I guess if Bryan Robson was our coach we would not have all these problems .
Though being sarcastic, you're right. Chukwu's spinelessness, stupidity and incompetence is half the problem.

for crying out loud this guy is an ex-eagle and I feel you can keep this more constructive. It doesn't make sense to me that you don't bash players but abusing our coach like that is uncalled for. keep it constructive.

Post by **Waffiman** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:33 am

balo wrote:
Its a Goal wrote:Ayo, it is wrong for the players to go camp and begin shelling out like there is no tomorrow. I can understand having to pay for phonecards and public transportation, however to expect the NFA to provide funds for players to go to resturants when their catering needs are already been met amounts to greediness. Further more, these guys have only been in camp 1 week, isn't it a bit too early to pay them?
IAG, Ayo was not assuming that the NFA should cover all these expenses. He simply listed what some players may have spent their money on. With that said, Are the players to be paid weekly? If so, then they should have gotten their money. It's bull to think players should not be paid for the "inconsequential" part of the FARO camp. They are duty-bound to be in FARO, hence should be paid.

Agreed.

Rogermilla · Post by **Rogermilla** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:54 am

Sir V wrote:The money is in the bank yielding interest!

Sir V.
I like your Signature. I have the CD in which the proverb was quoted. Sweet Africa Volume 3.

Its a Goal · Post by **Its a Goal** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:59 am

I am not saying players should not be paid their entitlement, but at this stage of the camp, sight seeing, movie going, and fancy resturant should be the least of their problems. I don't know what the procedure is for camp allowance, but as someone mentioned, they might probably have to wait they are decamped before being issued a check for their time at the camp.

MI5 · Post by **MI5** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 11:50 am

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Ayo Akinfe · Post by **Ayo Akinfe** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 2:55 pm

Some of you are just unbelievable. Anyway, I will put it down to inexperience.

Those of you who travel a lot with your work like Yujam, Enugu II, Gotti, Sir V etc, you now how these things work. The long-established, age-attested conventional principle with footballers is that a daily camp allowance is agreed, way in advance of the call-up.

Let us assume for arguments sake that for the Eagles it is $100 a day while they are in Faro. Now the NFA has to find a way to pay this out to the boys. It could be done on a weekly basis, daily, every other day or it could all be paid upfront.

It is the job of the management crew to agree a structure with the players through their representatives. We have been told that Ogunjobi and Okocha, the captain reached an agreement on how these payments wil be made.

The NFA now has to pay up!!!! All this talk about the players not being owed any money is just damn naive.

As per match bonuses. The same principle applies. You agree a rate before camp. Maybe you have one for Grade A friendlies, a different rate for Grade B friendlies and another for matches against provincial sides.

The NFA has an agreemnent with the boys and I recollect Ogunjobi saying a few months ago that he wants them to sign the agreement. It is his turn now to deliver on the deal he negotiated.

Post by **Cellular** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:07 pm

Ayo Akinfe wrote:Some of you are just unbelievable. Anyway, I will put it down to inexperience.

Those of you who travel a lot with your work like Yujam, Enugu II, Gotti, Sir V etc, you now how these things work. The long-established, age-attested conventional principle with footballers is that a daily camp allowance is agreed, way in advance of the call-up.

Let us assume for arguments sake that for the Eagles it is $100 a day while they are in Faro. Now the NFA has to find a way to pay this out to the boys. It could be done on a weekly basis, daily, every other day or it could all be paid upfront.

It is the job of the management crew to agree a structure with the players through their representatives. We have been told that Ogunjobi and Okocha, the captain reached an agreement on how these payments wil be made.

The NFA now has to pay up!!!! All this talk about the players not being owed any money is just damn naive.

As per match bonuses. The same principle applies. You agree a rate before camp. Maybe you have one for Grade A friendlies, a different rate for Grade B friendlies and another for matches against provincial sides.

The NFA has an agreemnent with the boys and I recollect Ogunjobi saying a few months ago that he wants them to sign the agreement. It is his turn now to deliver on the deal he negotiated.

Gemme a gaddam break! No Company that pays for your lodging and for your meals would turn around and give you "pocket money". Period!

Paying someone for what in essence is a scrimmage is ludicrous....

Btw, where do you get this $@#% from?

mystic · Post by **mystic** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:16 pm

Ayo,

I fully concur with you on dialy allowances as this is standard fare for such training camps. However, I doubt very seriously that players are paid for scrimmages and training matches which is essentially what those two friendlies were. Furthermore, we are not aware of the details of the agreement that was reached b/w Ogunjobi and JJ Okocha. It would really be helpful in judging what allowances should be coming to the players if we knew the details of that agreement.

Robbynice · Post by **Robbynice** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:17 pm

Cellular wrote:
Ayo Akinfe wrote:Some of you are just unbelievable. Anyway, I will put it down to inexperience.

Those of you who travel a lot with your work like Yujam, Enugu II, Gotti, Sir V etc, you now how these things work. The long-established, age-attested conventional principle with footballers is that a daily camp allowance is agreed, way in advance of the call-up.

Let us assume for arguments sake that for the Eagles it is $100 a day while they are in Faro. Now the NFA has to find a way to pay this out to the boys. It could be done on a weekly basis, daily, every other day or it could all be paid upfront.

It is the job of the management crew to agree a structure with the players through their representatives. We have been told that Ogunjobi and Okocha, the captain reached an agreement on how these payments wil be made.

The NFA now has to pay up!!!! All this talk about the players not being owed any money is just damn naive.

As per match bonuses. The same principle applies. You agree a rate before camp. Maybe you have one for Grade A friendlies, a different rate for Grade B friendlies and another for matches against provincial sides.

The NFA has an agreemnent with the boys and I recollect Ogunjobi saying a few months ago that he wants them to sign the agreement. It is his turn now to deliver on the deal he negotiated.
Gemme a gaddam break! No Company that pays for your lodging and for your meals would turn around and give you "pocket money". Period!

Paying someone for what in essence is a scrimmage is ludicrous....

Btw, where do you get this $@#% from?

Ayo, maybe that is how it is done in Europe but it doesn't work like that in this part of the world. Besides why didn't we hear of this situation when MD called camp?

monkeypost · Post by **monkeypost** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:30 pm

Shei!! na wao what can i say

pens · Post by **pens** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:53 pm

Ayo,
Do you have a copy of the agreement b/w the NFA sec and okocha?Or do you know the details.Without knowing what is agreed we can't do jack.