REMINDER: UDEZE TO MISS MOROCCO GAME

GUEST · Post by **GUEST** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:15 am

Larry Ashagbe
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Enugu II,

I have told Baba that the jury is out for him.

Infact, I was surprised that he decided to go to ANC.

As of 6 months ago, he was not sure of going to Tunisia.

He is looking forward to Tunisia and has shown a lot of enthusiasm which he has not shown for a long time regarding the Super Eagles.

He is constantly asking me to update him about what is happening with the SE preparation for ANC.
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Baba is asking you to update him on the latest news IN FARO! Larry, tell BABA TO START VISITING THIS WEBSITE IMMEDIATELY.

Larry Ashagbe · Post by **Larry Ashagbe** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:19 am

GUEST,

These boys don't even read the newspapers let alone use the internet.

GUEST · Post by **GUEST** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:22 am

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GUEST,

These boys don't even read the newspapers let alone use the internet.
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Enugu II · Post by **Enugu II** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:27 am

Larry:

As you know I love the guy's game (particularly in Chelsea blue) but you need to tell him that he is been evaluated by lots of Nigerians and January 27 is a D-Day for him. I think of the Baba (in SE shirt) of 1998 and it has no resemblance to that in ANC 2000 and therafter. The 1998 version was dominant but the ANC 2000 was NOT and we are still waiting for the 1998 version to return.

Larry Ashagbe · Post by **Larry Ashagbe** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:38 am

Enugu II,

Baba needs to raise his game with SE and Chelsea otherwise he would be surplus to requirements at the end of the season.

Chelsea FC can go replace anybody including the manager at the blink of an eye.

There is no time to flaff around cos everyone is fighting for their jobs including Raneiri.

omey2k4 · Post by **omey2k4** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 2:44 am

Sir V what kind of football have U been watching?From Udeze's Debut against Zambia till His last match against Angola the guy has never dissapointed.To show U how u lack reality,why werent U suprised Udeze made the African All Star team in 2002?I watched majority of the matches we played in 2002 ANC,Udeze the left back was the only guy taking on defenders and doing his best.In all honesty everybody knows Udeze is the better Left Back for Nigeria simple!

Robbynice · Post by **Robbynice** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:05 am

Larry Ashagbe wrote:Enugu II,

I have told Baba that the jury is out for him.

Infact, I was surprised that he decided to go to ANC.

As of 6 months ago, he was not sure of going to Tunisia.

He is looking forward to Tunisia and has shown a lot of enthusiasm which he has not shown for a long time regarding the Super Eagles.

He is constantly asking me to update him about what is happening with the SE preparation for ANC.

Isn' t this a problem? Why are you the one to update him on happenings in camp? I thought there were more official way for this to happen.

The YeyeMan · Post by **The YeyeMan** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:10 am

Robbynice, you mean finding out through the NFA? Hmmm....

Robbynice · Post by **Robbynice** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:20 am

YeyeMan v2.1 wrote:Robbynice, you mean finding out through the NFA? Hmmm....

Nope. I mean why can't Baba pick up the phone and call Faro himself to find out what is going on in camp? I am sure he has the phone number or atleast know someone who does.

Larry Ashagbe · Post by **Larry Ashagbe** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:30 am

Robbynice,

It don't work like that.

Trying to reach the NFA in Nigeria is a difficult task let alone when they are at Faro.

He keeps in touch with JJ to know what is happening but JJ knows very little regarding the Faro camp and the Premiership boys have important matches to play before their departure.

RudeBoy · Post by **RudeBoy** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:45 am

I'd take Babayaro anyday! At least he defends!!!

mystic · Post by **mystic** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 4:35 am

Baba is the superior defender of the two, while Udeze is much better overlapping. Baba is still a top class left back, however I'd pick Udeze ahead of him right now because of the commitment that Ifeanyi plays with as opposed to Babayaro.

Bombastic · Post by **Bombastic** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:03 am

Hmmm . . . they don't read newspapers or use the internet? On the other hand, their colleagues like Ronaldo and Zidane have internet sites. Does something sound strange here?

Its a Goal · Post by **Its a Goal** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:32 am

I don't no why there has to be a choice between Udeze and Babayaro when you can play both at the same time. For me, Udeze can never be a full LB. He is too offensive minded therefore exposes his position too often. Instead of #3 position, I'd rather have him play #6. Having him as a defensive midfielder gives you many options: He would cover the defense if Babayaro overlaps; and he can go forward and assist in attack without jeopadizing the defense since Babayaro rarely ventures forward.

geminikoat · Post by **geminikoat** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:37 am

Udeze needs to check his temperament; while his aggresion is good, it hurts us too.

PapaK · Post by **PapaK** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 6:00 am

why did CAF have to emulated UEFA's system of everlasting grudge? Left to me, I think suspensions should never be carried to tournament proper from qualifiers? It's sick. UEFA can even ask a son to come and serve the suspension of his father should the dad retire b4 completing his sentence. We should learn to forgive and not copy them

furiously frank · Post by **furiously frank** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 7:13 am

We sure needs Udeze's "gra-gra" against Africa opposition especially those countries with little or no technical depth, but against Senegal, Morocco, and Cameroun there might be a need to tell him to cool down those adrenalin otherwise he will get bagful of reds with the likes of dive specialist -Diouf pushing him to the limit.
Baba on the other hand has experience to help him out on difficult occassion. except for those occasional backing off when the opponent are on him, he is always a delight to watch, there is hardly a mistackle or late tackle from him when he is at the top of his game. His recent games with Chelsea before he cop that injury at the ECL shows his class, confidence and compusre. He is always a delight to watch, especially when he brings his game, and he does show a lot of fire this season for Chelsea, maybe 'cos of the threat from Wayne Bridge

Talk IT · Post by **Talk IT** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 8:26 am

Larry thanks for telling players as it really is.
Baba really needs to step up especially in Chelsea. Right now i would pick Udeze ahead of Baba in the SE because we don't have anyone in the left midfield that can attack and take on defenders from that left flank. Since there is no Amunike like player in the left midfield we need someone who can really stretch the the oponent there.

quickie · Post by **quickie** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:46 am

Larry Ashagbe wrote:Enugu II,

I have told Baba that the jury is out for him.

Infact, I was surprised that he decided to go to ANC.

As of 6 months ago, he was not sure of going to Tunisia.

He is looking forward to Tunisia and has shown a lot of enthusiasm which he has not shown for a long time regarding the Super Eagles.

He is constantly asking me to update him about what is happening with the SE preparation for ANC.

Larry,

This newly found SE enthusiasm from Baba coincides with the fact that he is swiftly getting out-of-favour at Chelsea. Maybe he needs Eagus to get some regular footy and showcase his skills. Hmmmm...

Q

txj · Post by **txj** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:21 pm

I think that the difference between Udeze and Baba in the SE is commitment. But the point needs to be made that Udeze is NOT a safe defender, commits too many mistakes, does not hold his line and is too often caught out of position, has poor recovery, poor timing and decision making which fetches him cards, and is tempramental.
Too many of us are caught up in the excitement of his overlaps.

Talk IT · Post by **Talk IT** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:39 pm

txj wrote:I think that the difference between Udeze and Baba in the SE is commitment. But the point needs to be made that Udeze is NOT a safe defender, commits too many mistakes, does not hold his line and is too often caught out of position, has poor recovery, poor timing and decision making which fetches him cards, and is tempramental.
Too many of us are caught up in the excitement of his overlaps.

Txj, thats not true.
Udeze has some deficiencies but it doesn't include most of what you just listed. Why would he not be caught out of position more than other defenders when the instruction from the coach is for him to overlap? Even roberto Caulos gets caught out of position. Poor recovery? you must be talking about another player. It is slow players that have poor recovery and we all know Udeze is not slow. I would like you to point out how many missed time tackles you have seen. Tell us the game and the minute it happened so we can go and check it out. Am not saying he doesn't have missed timed tackles but it seems you're taking it out of proportion.

green4life · Post by **green4life** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:41 pm

txj wrote:I think that the difference between Udeze and Baba in the SE is commitment. But the point needs to be made that Udeze is NOT a safe defender, commits too many mistakes, does not hold his line and is too often caught out of position, has poor recovery, poor timing and decision making which fetches him cards, and is tempramental.
Too many of us are caught up in the excitement of his overlaps.

Txj, no ne is caught up with the excitement of his overlaps. Rather as you rightly mentioned, we love his commitment. In African football, the refs are slow to whistle a foul. Udeze is physical and fearless in his play which has the downside of drawing cards. But I'd take that any day over a player who's scared to make a tackle. Hopefully, baba will go and rewatch his WC'98 and even his Atl'96 tapes to recover his zeal & his game.... He's got better abilities than Udeze, but Udeze has 100 times more heart... that's the difference and that's why most Nigerians choose Udeze over Babayaro.

MI5 · Post by **MI5** » Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:57 pm

Well said TXJ,

Udeze is a risky defender and if i was the coach i would play him as a natural left winger. It's only in Africa where players like are hailed because of his costant overlaps but forgets he has duty to play defence also...

txj wrote:I think that the difference between Udeze and Baba in the SE is commitment. But the point needs to be made that Udeze is NOT a safe defender, commits too many mistakes, does not hold his line and is too often caught out of position, has poor recovery, poor timing and decision making which fetches him cards, and is tempramental.
Too many of us are caught up in the excitement of his overlaps.