Cybereagles

Dr. Wazobia wrote:

Gudo wrote:Dr Wazobia, 1 Naija and others the Jamaicans are about to hop more misery on you. Top tune for Rio 2016

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'Hop' more misery? Matey, this is sport and sport is entertainment.

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Samora Machel wrote:So generally do you guys think Usain is on the juice. Never used to but i now think yes. I think african athletes except kenyan runners are probably the cleanest

Bolt is drugged up to the eyeballs.

So we should accept this is just natural speed? Gatlin had the race won until Bolt just waltz past him in the last 2 seconds

1naija wrote:So we should accept this is just natural speed? Gatlin had the race won until Bolt just waltz past him in the last 2 seconds

Yes it's Natural speed.

Gudo wrote:

1naija wrote:So we should accept this is just natural speed? Gatlin had the race won until Bolt just waltz past him in the last 2 seconds

Yes it's Natural speed.

I swear if bolt is caught as a cheat, the Olympics are finished

1naija wrote:So we should accept this is just natural speed? Gatlin had the race won until Bolt just waltz past him in the last 2 seconds

just because the Oklahoma secondary can't catch up to receivers doesn't mean someone can't be caught in a race.

Samora Machel wrote:

Gudo wrote:

1naija wrote:So we should accept this is just natural speed? Gatlin had the race won until Bolt just waltz past him in the last 2 seconds

Yes it's Natural speed.

I swear if bolt is caught as a cheat, the Olympics are finished

he will not be caught

not good for the IOC, IAAF, Olympics, sponsors etc

Just like Mo Farah will 'not be outed' any time soon.

tfco wrote:

Samora Machel wrote:

Gudo wrote:

1naija wrote:So we should accept this is just natural speed? Gatlin had the race won until Bolt just waltz past him in the last 2 seconds

Yes it's Natural speed.

I swear if bolt is caught as a cheat, the Olympics are finished

he will not be caught

not good for the IOC, IAAF, Olympics, sponsors etc

Just like Mo Farah will 'not be outed' any time soon.

Why don't the Ghanaians, Brasilians and Canadians have access to the PEDs they're using?

King Futcha wrote:

tfco wrote:

Samora Machel wrote:

Gudo wrote:

1naija wrote:So we should accept this is just natural speed? Gatlin had the race won until Bolt just waltz past him in the last 2 seconds

Yes it's Natural speed.

I swear if bolt is caught as a cheat, the Olympics are finished

he will not be caught

not good for the IOC, IAAF, Olympics, sponsors etc

Just like Mo Farah will 'not be outed' any time soon.

Why don't the Ghanaians, Brasilians and Canadians have access to the PEDs they're using?

WE all do. With time the news will come out

where are the truths from 84, 92, 96, 2000, 2004, 2008 and/or 2012?

King Futcha wrote:where are the truths from 84, 92, 96, 2000, 2004, 2008 and/or 2012?

King, Tfco makes a very valid point. Carl Lewis was a drug cheat but he was painted as a saviour whilst Ben Jonnson was treated like a demon child. The only thing Carl had going for him was the fact that he was the face of athletics and darling of the sponsors. Even though his history of PED use is readily available, he is still seen as one of the greatest.

Athletics (like cycling) is one of the biggest scams in sport. If it loses its credibility, then not only will the Olympics suffer but the sponsors would also feel it.

Side note: The best of Nigeria, Ghana and Jamaica used to constantly do battle at the Commonwealth games. Guess what? Jamaica did not start dominating until when Powell, Bolt et al came on the scene. I am not talking about stand out stars like Quarrie but total domination.

King Futcha wrote:where are the truths from 84, 92, 96, 2000, 2004, 2008 and/or 2012?

...and he added '84 to the list.

Like seriously

Gudo wrote:Bolt is clean take that to the bank. The rest of them are suspect though.

Bolt is on something. All top ten sprinters are on something. You cannot compete if you are not.

@ cic, Bolt may never be caught. As I have said elsewhere, the only way you can be caught if you are using a new drug that is designed to escape detection is if someone gives a copy to the testers AND the testers are able to develop detection tests.

kalamashaka wrote:

ohsee wrote:Answer me this, what are the chances that Bolt is NOT on juice if FOUR prior record holders with slower times, were on dope? The logical answer is that Bolt is on dope, not that he is an "outlier" or that he is a "freak of nature." That is like continuing to hope and believe in Santa Claus after your four older brothers tell you that they caught Daddy putting presents in their stockings in past Christmases.

Ohsee, this logic is a bit iffy.

Maybe. But remember, I said, "what are the chances?" What are the chances that someone is doing something even more "impossible" when we know that everyone who did the "impossible" in the past did it with drug assistance? In the world of pure logic, obviously it is shaky, but in the world of probabilities, the CHANCES, that Bolt is not cheating is very low. You would not bet your entire retirement savings on Bolt being clean.

tfco wrote:

King Futcha wrote:where are the truths from 84, 92, 96, 2000, 2004, 2008 and/or 2012?

...and he added '84 to the list.

Like seriously

because you gave us 88, you can go back to '60 if you'd like since time I will tell I wanted to know what happened before and after, thanks in advance...

ohsee wrote:

kalamashaka wrote:

ohsee wrote:Answer me this, what are the chances that Bolt is NOT on juice if FOUR prior record holders with slower times, were on dope? The logical answer is that Bolt is on dope, not that he is an "outlier" or that he is a "freak of nature." That is like continuing to hope and believe in Santa Claus after your four older brothers tell you that they caught Daddy putting presents in their stockings in past Christmases.

Ohsee, this logic is a bit iffy.

Maybe. But remember, I said, "what are the chances?" What are the chances that someone is doing something even more "impossible" when we know that everyone who did the "impossible" in the past did it with drug assistance? In the world of pure logic, obviously it is shaky, but in the world of probabilities, the CHANCES, that Bolt is not cheating is very low. You would not bet your entire retirement savings on Bolt being clean.

you would not bet that 50k Don King gave you while you were laid up in the hospital bed on him being dirty.

ohsee wrote:

Gudo wrote:Bolt is clean take that to the bank. The rest of them are suspect though.

Bolt is on something. All top ten sprinters are on something. You cannot compete if you are not.

@ cic, Bolt may never be caught. As I have said elsewhere, the only way you can be caught if you are using a new drug that is designed to escape detection is if someone gives a copy to the testers AND the testers are able to develop detection tests.

What about the south African that just smashed the 400m record at 100m average speed rate? Remember during your days when you used to run 400m in 30 minutes? This guy ran it in 43.03 second, which is 10.87 seconds per 100m on the average. Even Bolt can't run that.

Bolt is not 'faster' than his peers but dude enjoys the advantage of.....................longer legs.

ohsee wrote:

Gudo wrote:Bolt is clean take that to the bank. The rest of them are suspect though.

Bolt is on something. All top ten sprinters are on something. You cannot compete if you are not.

@ cic, Bolt may never be caught. As I have said elsewhere, the only way you can be caught if you are using a new drug that is designed to escape detection is if someone gives a copy to the testers AND the testers are able to develop detection tests.

Bolt will only be 'caught' when he stops being a cash cow for the big corporations. Remember when Linford Christie got 'caught' after running a race on a supposed bet? I mean, seriously.....

King Futcha wrote:

tfco wrote:

King Futcha wrote:where are the truths from 84, 92, 96, 2000, 2004, 2008 and/or 2012?

...and he added '84 to the list.

Like seriously

because you gave us 88, you can go back to '60 if you'd like since time I will tell I wanted to know what happened before and after, thanks in advance...

we can start with 2012, and i will give you one athlete who was doping.

Mo Farah.

I laughed at 1984 because the USA had a systemic doping program in place - kinda like what Russia is being punished for today

At least 34 U.S. track and field athletes either tested positive or had possible positive tests during six weeks of informal testing by USOC in the spring of 1984, according to confidential USOC memos. None of the athletes was sanctioned or lost eligibility, according to USOC documents and interviews.

Athletes were informed of their positive tests and told continued use of banned drugs could result in positive tests at the U.S. Olympic Trials and Olympic Games, where violations would lead to bans from competition.

"It gave them a heads up," said Ollan Cassell, executive director of U.S. track and field's governing body from 1980 to 1997. "It let them know what was coming, what to expect."

sauce

zee wrote:Bolt is not 'faster' than his peers but dude enjoys the advantage of.....................longer legs.

a few years back, he said his secret was.....chicken nuggets

Dr. Wazobia wrote:

ohsee wrote:

Gudo wrote:Bolt is clean take that to the bank. The rest of them are suspect though.

Bolt is on something. All top ten sprinters are on something. You cannot compete if you are not.

@ cic, Bolt may never be caught. As I have said elsewhere, the only way you can be caught if you are using a new drug that is designed to escape detection is if someone gives a copy to the testers AND the testers are able to develop detection tests.

Bolt will only be 'caught' when he stops being a cash cow for the big corporations. Remember when Linford Christie got 'caught' after running a race on a supposed bet? I mean, seriously.....

True. Does anyone remember that Big Ben Johnson was alleged to have been actually framed? The guy eventually told the full story, and said he was NOT on Stanozolol; he had stopped taking it for years. But he WAS on a then undetectable chemical enhancement. According to Ben and his "chemist" Charlie Francis, someone spiked Ben's urine sample with a drug he no longer used. Those two claim that the powers that be only catch those they want to catch. Rumours of Ben's steroid use were swirling for years before he was "caught."