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If Spahic misses the game, then it will be as if fate gave Nigeria a second chance. Emenike should be delighted that he will not be facing Spahic. Losing your captain, leader, and best defender is a big blow for Bosnia.

..next problem: PJANIC!
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wiseone wrote:That is a HUGE absence for Bosnia. Spahic is their rock at the back.
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platinum wrote:Good news.

We won't be the only ones missing a CB. Their captain and #1 CB, Emir Spahic will likely miss the game with injury too.

Yup. Apart from his physical skills, mentally he's a rock for them. They're working hard to get him back but the chances are fair that he'll miss out. They could play bicakcic, vranjes or sunjic in his stead or move kolasinac there or drop besic there too, they have options but none like spahic.
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Average Bosnian thinks they'll beat Nigeria the way Croatia beat Cameroon. They're very very confident of it. Not just 2-1 or narrow win, very confident of trouncing the Eagles.
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platinum wrote:Average Bosnian thinks they'll beat Nigeria the way Croatia beat Cameroon. They're very very confident of it. Not just 2-1 or narrow win, very confident of trouncing the Eagles.

No Bosnia I know thinks that. And I know quite a few, albeit not enough to determine an average thought here.

:)

Believe me, Croatia took the game against Cameroon seriously. So too will BiH against Nigeria. The world is small. Nobody thinks Cameroon = Nigeria or Croatia = BiH.

Should be a great match. And I'll say it again: Nigeria has the edge on experience, pedigree, and position in current standings. Best of luck to the Super Eagles. Simply play your hearts out and let things fall where they may.

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wiseone wrote:If Spahic misses the game, then it will be as if fate gave Nigeria a second chance. Emenike should be delighted that he will not be facing Spahic. Losing your captain, leader, and best defender is a big blow for Bosnia.

..next problem: PJANIC!
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wiseone wrote:That is a HUGE absence for Bosnia. Spahic is their rock at the back.
:shock:
platinum wrote:Good news.

We won't be the only ones missing a CB. Their captain and #1 CB, Emir Spahic will likely miss the game with injury too.

Yup. Apart from his physical skills, mentally he's a rock for them. They're working hard to get him back but the chances are fair that he'll miss out. They could play bicakcic, vranjes or sunjic in his stead or move kolasinac there or drop besic there too, they have options but none like spahic.

Probably wont change much. They will play Nigeria with a safety first mentality and look to find moments to press, get turnovers and counter...
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platinum wrote:Average Bosnian thinks they'll beat Nigeria the way Croatia beat Cameroon. They're very very confident of it. Not just 2-1 or narrow win, very confident of trouncing the Eagles.
And where did you get that from ?

First, I am Bosnian, and I'm not that confident.
Second, I live in Bosnia and everyone's main subject now-days is match with Nigeria and believe me, nobody thinks that. Consensus is that Nigeria is much better than Cameroon.
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And, Spahić will 100% play - question is, is he going to play up to his full potential or not. 'cos he's one crazy mofo, it wouldn't be the first time he plays injured for NT.
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platinum wrote:Average Bosnian thinks they'll beat Nigeria the way Croatia beat Cameroon. They're very very confident of it. Not just 2-1 or narrow win, very confident of trouncing the Eagles.

No Bosnia I know thinks that. And I know quite a few, albeit not enough to determine an average thought here.

:)

Believe me, Croatia took the game against Cameroon seriously. So too will BiH against Nigeria. The world is small. Nobody thinks Cameroon = Nigeria or Croatia = BiH.

Should be a great match. And I'll say it again: Nigeria has the edge on experience, pedigree, and position in current standings. Best of luck to the Super Eagles. Simply play your hearts out and let things fall where they may.

Cheers, Mate

I'm in Saint Louis right now, biggest Bosnian population stateside and possibly anywhere outside Bosnia...they all think they'll crush Nigeria.
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You have misread Bosnia's playing style. They don't "do" safety first. They are a very attacking team. Especially in a do or die game like this. They are going to attack.
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Probably wont change much. They will play Nigeria with a safety first mentality and look to find moments to press, get turnovers and counter...
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wiseone wrote:You have misread Bosnia's playing style. They don't "do" safety first. They are a very attacking team. Especially in a doe or die game like this. They are going to attack.
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Probably wont change much. They will play Nigeria with a safety first mentality and look to find moments to press, get turnovers and counter...

wiseone,

I see txj's point though. They could try and approach the SE match the way they did Argentina. It wouldn't surprise me at all. Why give us the chance to hit them on the counter by playing openly. I'll say this, if Kolasinac rambles down their left like he usually does, they'll get punished.

It'll be a sweet game of football, I still think a draw is the likely outcome.
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Babayaro wrote:
platinum wrote:Average Bosnian thinks they'll beat Nigeria the way Croatia beat Cameroon. They're very very confident of it. Not just 2-1 or narrow win, very confident of trouncing the Eagles.
And where did you get that from ?

First, I am Bosnian, and I'm not that confident.
Second, I live in Bosnia and everyone's main subject now-days is match with Nigeria and believe me, nobody thinks that. Consensus is that Nigeria is much better than Cameroon.
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Platinum, playing defensively is so inconsistent with Bosnia' s DNA. Especially as they know winning the game will almost certainly eliminate Nigeria. There will be plenty of nerves, and goals. Both teams defend too badly for this to be a 0-0 draw.
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The Bosnia - Nigeria game will be similar to the Croatia v Cameroon game. Lapse in concentration and Bosnia will punish this team. Our defense has not been tested at this WC. Iran just wanted to play it safe.

I fancy our chance on a fast break or getting a PK. But I will be on pins for every Bosnian corner or freekick. We don't deal with crosses well.
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platinum wrote:Average Bosnian thinks they'll beat Nigeria the way Croatia beat Cameroon. They're very very confident of it. Not just 2-1 or narrow win, very confident of trouncing the Eagles.
And where did you get that from ?

First, I am Bosnian, and I'm not that confident.
Second, I live in Bosnia and everyone's main subject now-days is match with Nigeria and believe me, nobody thinks that. Consensus is that Nigeria is much better than Cameroon.
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wiseone wrote:Platinum, playing defensively is so inconsistent with Bosnia' s DNA. Especially as they know winning the game will almost certainly eliminate Nigeria. There will be plenty of nerves, and goals. Both teams defend too badly for this to be a 0-0 draw.
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platinum wrote:Average Bosnian thinks they'll beat Nigeria the way Croatia beat Cameroon. They're very very confident of it. Not just 2-1 or narrow win, very confident of trouncing the Eagles.
And where did you get that from ?

First, I am Bosnian, and I'm not that confident.
Second, I live in Bosnia and everyone's main subject now-days is match with Nigeria and believe me, nobody thinks that. Consensus is that Nigeria is much better than Cameroon.
Your forum... http://bhdragons.com/xenfore/index.php? ... 226/page-5
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mate wrote:
Babayaro wrote:
platinum wrote:Average Bosnian thinks they'll beat Nigeria the way Croatia beat Cameroon. They're very very confident of it. Not just 2-1 or narrow win, very confident of trouncing the Eagles.
And where did you get that from ?

First, I am Bosnian, and I'm not that confident.
Second, I live in Bosnia and everyone's main subject now-days is match with Nigeria and believe me, nobody thinks that. Consensus is that Nigeria is much better than Cameroon.
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The question for Bosnia is quite simple, one or two strikers, a conundrum which needn't any more than an exercise in commonsense. Do Bosnia need two strikers on the field? No, does anybody. Better between the lines than on them. As for Nigeria, urgency, shape and structure.
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platinum wrote:Average Bosnian thinks they'll beat Nigeria the way Croatia beat Cameroon. They're very very confident of it. Not just 2-1 or narrow win, very confident of trouncing the Eagles.
And where did you get that from ?

First, I am Bosnian, and I'm not that confident.
Second, I live in Bosnia and everyone's main subject now-days is match with Nigeria and believe me, nobody thinks that. Consensus is that Nigeria is much better than Cameroon.
I notice you have not told us what you expect then. Do Bosnians expect a W? Do they expect a draw, since you are there, give us the 'true' pulse.
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To win tomorrow, Nigeria will have to produce their best performance since they beat Mali nearly 18 months ago.
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What the Bosnians are saying:
We're going to shoot those 'Super Eagles' out of the sky and then we'll defeat King Xerxes' mighty army and advance to the second round!
Emenike is s**t. Yesterday he was worse than Dzeko.
Nigeria's main CB will be out against us. Great news since their defence is already so weak.
with their defense having this many holes, and their mid/attack being sloppy, there's no excuse for our team to not score multiple goals on Saturday.
I think the Nigerians really are scared of us.
Nigeria is shaking.
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Okay, here is my gut feel assessment at this stage in the WC. On paper, Nigeria should win. The Eagles have 1 point, more history, and more experience in this kind of competition with current players. Nigeria was at the last WC and the Confederations Cup.

A lot will depend on confidence. BiH has it. They got a very good result against Argentina psychologically, playing them well. It seems to me that they really believe they can win 2 games.

In contrast, sometimes I get the impression that Nigeria feels stressed. Maybe I'm jaded reading some of the negative posters here? But too many folks talk about how Nigeria messed up against Iran, how poor the game was, and such things.

A lot will come down to composure. If one team is composed and the other isn't, well, that to me will be decisive. Otherwise it's anybody's game. It's going to be hard fought.

Lastly, I feel that Nigeria must be more ambitious than against Iran. BiH certainly was against Argentina. The Super Eagles have to stretch wide the BiH backs, which will require some risk. BiH will throw some weight into attack, so you can't stay back too much.

Here's to an enjoyable game. I'm looking forward to it. As a long time CE. And as somebody with lots of Bosnians as friends and family too.

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We score 1st and early and the Bosnians will crumble. Eastern European teams always collapse when things don't go according to script.
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platinum wrote:
Babayaro wrote:
platinum wrote:Average Bosnian thinks they'll beat Nigeria the way Croatia beat Cameroon. They're very very confident of it. Not just 2-1 or narrow win, very confident of trouncing the Eagles.
And where did you get that from ?

First, I am Bosnian, and I'm not that confident.
Second, I live in Bosnia and everyone's main subject now-days is match with Nigeria and believe me, nobody thinks that. Consensus is that Nigeria is much better than Cameroon.
I notice you have not told us what you expect then. Do Bosnians expect a W? Do they expect a draw, since you are there, give us the 'true' pulse.
Minimal win would be good result for me, draw is not too bad ;)

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