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Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:30 am
by Bigpokey24
The usa was the worst team in the round of 16.. omce again , who makes a goalie make 16 saves.. smh van nestroy just said it.

Re: USA (2) v Belgium (0)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:31 am
by kolinzo
platinum wrote:
kolinzo wrote:
platinum wrote:
kolinzo wrote:And the score is not 2-0. It's 2-1!!
No vex, i don change am :laugh:

What did the usa do wrong today?
Many things they did wrong today. Both Belgium goals came from player trying to get cute at the final third and Belgium took the ball and punish the USA. They were caught out of positions. And when the USA went forward they got too eager to score. If USA player was the one who had DeBryune's chance he would shot it the first time, but DeBryune was calmed and the USA defender were scrambling all over the place. It's like "omg...omg...i have to put in this tackle.." Or "OMG...OMG...can I score this?" They were not calm at all. The confidence wasn't there.

Many times the defenders only needed to just stay on their feet and they just couldn't. Michael Bradley, aka box2box X box, got back on his feet today. He was massive and very impressive today. Zusi didn't really have any impact at all. Zusi was just short one.

Overall, the USA couldn't possess the ball for a longer period of time
On the basis of this, how do you say they should be in the 1/4 though?

Belgium's finishing was poor today and of course Timmy was in imperious form but really it was possibly the worst usa showing of the cup.
Well, because they should have defeated Portugal. That right there could have paired them with Algeria (a team I highly rated). The Portugal match threw a curve ball into the whole thing as USA had to be extremely careful against Germany. If USA had qualified before beating Germany I don't have any doubt in my mind we would have witnessed a USA team that would play to its potential.


Nevertheless, this game against Belgium was just not their game. It was a tactical battle but Belgium had the advantage of one substitution once Johnson was injured in the first. That was really the difference today. The advantage in the amount of subs.

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:32 am
by Bigpokey24
King Futcha wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:Looking forward to another fluke team sent home from concacrap
should you be somewhere boycotting training and fighting over bonuses
Much better than making a goalie get exposed all day long. No build up play, lack players who can move the ball .zero ..dude this ain't field hockey

Re: USA (2) v Belgium (0)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:34 am
by platinum
kolinzo wrote:
platinum wrote:
kolinzo wrote:
platinum wrote:
kolinzo wrote:And the score is not 2-0. It's 2-1!!
No vex, i don change am :laugh:

What did the usa do wrong today?
Many things they did wrong today. Both Belgium goals came from player trying to get cute at the final third and Belgium took the ball and punish the USA. They were caught out of positions. And when the USA went forward they got too eager to score. If USA player was the one who had DeBryune's chance he would shot it the first time, but DeBryune was calmed and the USA defender were scrambling all over the place. It's like "omg...omg...i have to put in this tackle.." Or "OMG...OMG...can I score this?" They were not calm at all. The confidence wasn't there.

Many times the defenders only needed to just stay on their feet and they just couldn't. Michael Bradley, aka box2box X box, got back on his feet today. He was massive and very impressive today. Zusi didn't really have any impact at all. Zusi was just short one.

Overall, the USA couldn't possess the ball for a longer period of time
On the basis of this, how do you say they should be in the 1/4 though?

Belgium's finishing was poor today and of course Timmy was in imperious form but really it was possibly the worst usa showing of the cup.
Well, because they should have defeated Portugal. That right there could have paired them with Algeria (a team I highly rated). The Portugal match threw a curve ball into the whole thing as USA had to be extremely careful against Germany. If USA had qualified before beating Germany I don't have any doubt in my mind we would have witnessed a USA team that would play to its potential.


Nevertheless, this game against Belgium was just not their game. It was a tactical battle but Belgium had the advantage of one substitution once Johnson was injured in the first. That was really the difference today. The advantage in the amount of subs.
kolinzo,

Germany was classes above the usmnt, even donovan said it. Not sure what more potential you mean.

Belgium owned the game start to finish, even with johnson in it. As early as the 3rd minute, timmy was already making saves.

The team is a work in progress but no quarterfinal material.

Re: USA (2) v Belgium (0)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:34 am
by King Futcha
kolinzo wrote:
platinum wrote:
kolinzo wrote:
platinum wrote:
kolinzo wrote:And the score is not 2-0. It's 2-1!!
No vex, i don change am :laugh:

What did the usa do wrong today?
Many things they did wrong today. Both Belgium goals came from player trying to get cute at the final third and Belgium took the ball and punish the USA. They were caught out of positions. And when the USA went forward they got too eager to score. If USA player was the one who had DeBryune's chance he would shot it the first time, but DeBryune was calmed and the USA defender were scrambling all over the place. It's like "omg...omg...i have to put in this tackle.." Or "OMG...OMG...can I score this?" They were not calm at all. The confidence wasn't there.

Many times the defenders only needed to just stay on their feet and they just couldn't. Michael Bradley, aka box2box X box, got back on his feet today. He was massive and very impressive today. Zusi didn't really have any impact at all. Zusi was just short one.

Overall, the USA couldn't possess the ball for a longer period of time
On the basis of this, how do you say they should be in the 1/4 though?

Belgium's finishing was poor today and of course Timmy was in imperious form but really it was possibly the worst usa showing of the cup.
Well, because they should have defeated Portugal. That right there could have paired them with Algeria (a team I highly rated). The Portugal match threw a curve ball into the whole thing as USA had to be extremely careful against Germany. If USA had qualified before beating Germany I don't have any doubt in my mind we would have witnessed a USA team that would play to its potential.


Nevertheless, this game against Belgium was just not their game. It was a tactical battle but Belgium had the advantage of one substitution once Johnson was injured in the first. That was really the difference today. The advantage in the amount of subs.
went from we... to they, USA, and their, smh

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:35 am
by mcal
Sunset wrote:USA Starting XI

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:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
...everybody watching football you were busy doing fotoshop..shockin' :( :shock:

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:35 am
by Bigpokey24
Went from we to they :rotf:

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:35 am
by mate
platinum wrote:
mate wrote:
kolinzo wrote:
mate wrote:I...am....WOUNNNNNDED!!!

WOUNDED!!!

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

:sad: :sad: :sad:

All my teams are out: USA, Croatia, and Nigeria.

I don't know what to do with myself the rest of the WC. Everything is silent. My wife and kids and colleagues make sounds. But I hear nothing. A lot is going on around me. But I see nothing.

It's all a silent blur now. I look at joyous German, Argentine, German, and Belgian fans. Worst of all, I have to endure the odd Frenchman.

I am lost my brothers.

Truly I am wounded.

Cheers, Mate
Yeah. Now Americans would probably stop watching the rest of the WC unless Argentina gets to the finals.

You know, there is a reason why teams fight to get first place in group stage. USA lost that on that last second booboo against Portugal. It is as clear as daylight now that USA must stop coaching skills out of the youngsters. Too many interference from the local coaches at k-12 level. This must be corrected. Kids at K-12 level should be allowed to express themselves.

Anyway, it was not really a good tournament for USMNT. There is no reason why this team should not be playing the quarter finals. It was a disappointment.


I think Klinsmann actually said it best. We need a final missing cultural change: namely, that kids play football to become pros, as opposed to getting division I scholarships.

We have everything else: rising leagues, money, academies, fan support, large and diverse population pool, committed FA, and state of the art sports science.

The genie is out of the bottle. Americans of all stripes have gotten the football bug. The US WC games have crushed the NBA and MLB. Our best athletes in our main sports have been seduced...witnessing real glory, the glory of global football...as opposed to the parochial glory that they thought was the real thing.

Americans are coming on. Legions of US kids are playing football. Many more will do it to become pros. No college, but into the academies and then to the pros...into the best leagues in the world...La Liga, the EPL, the MFL, and MLS!!!

8-) 8-) 8-)

I'm not joking about the last 2. People will see what happens once a greater North American CL really starts to take shape...with the best players from the Americas coming...and, I guarantee you, a number of Croatians. I bet you a few Africans also will pick this over Europe.

8-) 8-) 8-)

Cheers, Mate
mate,

Remember what I said about heart? If Croatia had half the heart of this usa team, you'd be in the semis for sure. (also a better coach than Kovac).

With that said, we'll just have to wait and see, the same's been promised before. The mls is actually doing a better job in terms of academies and attracting stars who're not totally washed up (villa and kaka are good start). The spirit is there, a lil injection of quality will go a long way.

Another thing the usmnt must do is find a way to reach the hearts of guys like ibisevic and rossi and many (overstatement) others and 'turn' them, hard task but when you lose that kind of quality, it shows.

I think the tide is turning on losing some of the Americans you mentioned. For some time, sure, the glamor and draw of Europe played a factor. But if the MLS does things correctly, the money alone will be too compelling.

Also, as Rossi can attest, it's easy to lose your spot with Italy and be discarded for good. The US would have been the much better choice in the long run for him. Australia similarly did that with Croatian-Australians, managing to keep Mark Viduka from jumping ship.

BTW: I give the Aussies credit as well. Given some time, they too will start to be formidable, as they're taking up football, investing, and get to qualify from Asia. They too have the sports science, culture, diversity, and big bodies to become a force.

Australia, the US, Brazil, and Argentina can become consistent challengers to the tier 1 Europeans...perhaps joined by an emergent African contingent...but that's another discussion.

:wink:

Cheers, Mate

Re: USA (2) v Belgium (0)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:38 am
by Vincent.
mate wrote:I...am....WOUNNNNNDED!!!

WOUNDED!!!

:veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry:

:sad: :sad: :sad:

All my teams are out: USA, Croatia, and Nigeria.

I don't know what to do with myself the rest of the WC. Everything is silent. My wife and kids and colleagues make sounds. But I hear nothing. A lot is going on around me. But I see nothing.

It's all a silent blur now. I look at joyous German, Argentine, German, and Belgian fans. Worst of all, I have to endure the odd Frenchman.

I am lost my brothers.

Truly I am wounded.

Cheers, Mate
Chief, take it easy. It is only a game. :rotf:
Another competition will begin soon

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:40 am
by Bigpokey24
Finally espn making sense. 16 saves ..so should we make 16 attempts against the opposition as well :rotf:

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:45 am
by GREENWHITEGREEN
kneedeep,

I believe there was a deliberate attempt to turn soccer into the next La Crosse in the early days, but over the last ten years things are changing and more minority and immigrant kids are coming through. The Federation will learn from countries in this WC such as France, Belgium, England and the Dutch.

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:45 am
by ohenhen1
Klinsman did the best he could with the talent he has. Tactically they were good. They were fit and broke on quick counters. They simply just lack talent. You can't play bunker style defense forever. You can't win championships playing bunker style defense except for Greece. I wouldn't mind Klinsman coaching Nigeria if he is sacked by the US. The Julian Green move and the dropping of Landon Donovan was brilliant. Other moves like converting Beasley to left back were also brilliant.

Re: USA (2) v Belgium (0)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:50 am
by wale1974
mmeny wrote:I am just wondering if Nigeria got dominated like this with Belgian turning Enyeama into a target practice, if we will be here applauding and commending the team for the fighting spirit.... I somehow doubt that...

Tim Howard was immense though but with better finishing this game would have been over a long time ago..
USA is not a soccer playing nation unlike naija the Brazil of African :sneaky: :sneaky: :sneaky: :sneaky:

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:50 am
by Bigpokey24
Hot dog football only works in kansas

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:52 am
by GREENWHITEGREEN
To all my CE US bro's, Happy 4th of July in advance. Make una no chop too much o.
Good day and goodnight!!

Re: USA (2) v Belgium (0)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:54 am
by wale1974
Bigpokey24 wrote:If any CAF teams allows the keeper to chop serious exposure, none of una go dey here dey say usa good etc.. usa were piss poor in this tournament. Had a lucky win against ghana. And couldn't win a single game simce last month. Dem dey wi friendly think say nah ball. Glad they are out
Finished ahead of star studded Ghana and Portugal, Honestly u need to get a life.

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:59 am
by wale1974
Bigpokey24 wrote:The usa was the worst team in the round of 16.. omce again , who makes a goalie make 16 saves.. smh van nestroy just said it.
2-1 vs 2-0....................U can't be this slow :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Abi your medication don expire :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Re: USA (2) v Belgium (0)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:00 am
by Bigpokey24
wale1974 wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:If any CAF teams allows the keeper to chop serious exposure, none of una go dey here dey say usa good etc.. usa were piss poor in this tournament. Had a lucky win against ghana. And couldn't win a single game simce last month. Dem dey wi friendly think say nah ball. Glad they are out
Finished ahead of star studded Ghana and Portugal, Honestly u need to get a life.
Stop being emotional and reason. No CAF team will accept their goalie to chop 16 saves, I mean of what use was jones and Bradley plus cameron, e5c

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:00 am
by wale1974
mcal wrote:
Sunset wrote:USA Starting XI

Image



:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
...everybody watching football you were busy doing fotoshop..shockin' :( :shock:
Bad belle nah serious matter o :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Re: USA (2) v Belgium (0)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:02 am
by wale1974
Bigpokey24 wrote:
wale1974 wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:If any CAF teams allows the keeper to chop serious exposure, none of una go dey here dey say usa good etc.. usa were piss poor in this tournament. Had a lucky win against ghana. And couldn't win a single game simce last month. Dem dey wi friendly think say nah ball. Glad they are out
Finished ahead of star studded Ghana and Portugal, Honestly u need to get a life.
Stop being emotional and reason. No CAF team will accept their goalie to chop 16 saves, I mean of what use was jones and Bradley plus cameron, e5c
I'm not getting emotional man, u just make me sick with all your opaks and trolling.
Seriously respect other members on here.

Re: USA (2) v Belgium (0)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:07 am
by Bigpokey24
wale1974 wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:
wale1974 wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:If any CAF teams allows the keeper to chop serious exposure, none of una go dey here dey say usa good etc.. usa were piss poor in this tournament. Had a lucky win against ghana. And couldn't win a single game simce last month. Dem dey wi friendly think say nah ball. Glad they are out
Finished ahead of star studded Ghana and Portugal, Honestly u need to get a life.
Stop being emotional and reason. No CAF team will accept their goalie to chop 16 saves, I mean of what use was jones and Bradley plus cameron, e5c
I'm not getting emotional man, u just make me sick with all your opaks and trolling.
Seriously respect other members on here.
You aren't making sense. How many saves did howard make? Even zaire no expose them keeper like usa did today

Re: USA (2) v Belgium (0)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:07 am
by kolinzo
wale1974 wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:
wale1974 wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:If any CAF teams allows the keeper to chop serious exposure, none of una go dey here dey say usa good etc.. usa were piss poor in this tournament. Had a lucky win against ghana. And couldn't win a single game simce last month. Dem dey wi friendly think say nah ball. Glad they are out
Finished ahead of star studded Ghana and Portugal, Honestly u need to get a life.
Stop being emotional and reason. No CAF team will accept their goalie to chop 16 saves, I mean of what use was jones and Bradley plus cameron, e5c
I'm not getting emotional man, u just make me sick with all your opaks and trolling.
Seriously respect other members on here.
You get time for your hand responding to a moron like him. You should start ignoring him or he will bring your intelligence down. #fact!

Re: USA (1) v Belgium (2)

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:21 am
by mate
The difference between fortune and bust is made in moments like Wondolowski missing that sitter. Imagine he actually scored that gift from the football gods? That lack of class is what cost us in the end. Nobody could adequately replace Altidore.

Or could they? I like to now imagine how Julian Green may have done in place of Wondolowski? In his little time on the pitch, Julian looked so much more composed and talented.

Like I said, the US keeps coming on. We have a lot more players in the pipeline.

By the way, my family and I are going to make MLS attendance a regular thing. San Jose Earthquakes baby! We're supporting our US NT team!

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:


Cheers, Mate