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Nertherlands after taking care of Costa Rica will defeat The Argies!
they will no make it past Costa Rica


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Lukaku, should have started


kpom

origi was bad.

really bad.


He is young... it happens with young players.


That is why some coaches blood them in slowly... i.e., not starting them back to back games and not letting the good pub get to their head to early.

Make no mistake about it... Bobo is really good...



My personal biases aside, he's a very good player.

After 5mins of the game, Argentina never allowed them a foothold in the game and forced them to depend on crosses into the box...

Superior quality told

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This must be the best I've seen Argentina play defensivesly. Romero was practically on holiday! It that just the introduction of Dimechelis and Biglia? Surely no coincidence!

Very impressive defensive performance! :clap: :clap: :clap:


And the injury to Kun which allowed him bring on Lavezzi

I think he's found his tournament team...

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Ekorian wrote:
Nertherlands after taking care of Costa Rica will defeat The Argies!
they will no make it past Costa Rica

Costa Rica will be massacred today. Nothing less than three goal margins of victory from the Orange

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txj wrote:
Cellular wrote:
tfco wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:
Lukaku, should have started


kpom

origi was bad.

really bad.


He is young... it happens with young players.


That is why some coaches blood them in slowly... i.e., not starting them back to back games and not letting the good pub get to their head too early.

Make no mistake about it... Bobo is really good...



My personal biases aside, he's a very good player.

After 5mins of the game, Argentina never allowed them a foothold in the game and forced them to depend on crosses into the box...

Superior quality told


It reminds me of playing a game where you heartrate never quite settles... and it takes you time to get into the game. By the time the Belgians settled, they were already disjointed and their key players were never able to get hold of the game...

Not a fan of Argentina but I loved them in this game... They found a way to shore up their defense...

Like you said, the loss of Aguero allowed them for more balance and to be more industrious with the approach... i.e., more team oriented.

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@Tx, the display was certainly regimental, but far from devastating. The overall display was poor, they had a knockdown in the early exchanges and opted to hold and lock arms till the twelfth's bell. Nothing about this display suggests the formidable, Belgium were diabolical, Wilmots caught in more minds than a cross dressing Norman Bates. One is all but certain he had no idea what Fellani's role was, not least today, but throughout the tournament. Belgium were absolutely astrategic, the nes plus ultra of ansolute nothingness. Pathetic.


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Gonzalo Higuain FW, Napoli

24 goals and 11 assists in 2014 season

Just saying...

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On the bright side, Argentina defended well today. I'm pleased with the defensive performance.

On the negative side, the team remains crap and its unlikely we'll improve this tournament. Not enough quality and over-reliance of Messi. Palacio, Lavezzi and Higuain offer nothing. Despite his goal, Higuain was sloppy and his work rate was poor. There was a moment around the 65th minute where Higuain was casually strolling up the pitch and just watched as Lavezzi cut in from the left trying to make something happen. Higuain is one of several -1s on this team.

Di Maria's loss was huge and I think we could've scored 1-2 more had he remained present. Hopefully he is fit for Wednesday.

This is the worst Argentina WC team since 1982 yet we're in the semis after 5 consecutive mediocre performances. I suspect Holland will thrash us in the semis like they should. The main reason Argentina has made it this far is due to lack of competition.

I'm happy with the win but realistically speaking, our WC run ends on Wednesday.


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@Tx, the display was certainly regimental, but far from devastating. The overall display was poor, they had a knockdown in the early exchanges and opted to hold and lock arms till the twelfth's bell. Nothing about this display suggests the formidable, Belgium were diabolical, Wilmots caught in more minds than a cross dressing Norman Bates. One is all but certain he had no idea what Fellani's role was, not least today, but throughout the tournament. Belgium were absolutely astrategic, the nes plus ultra of ansolute nothingness. Pathetic.



You are right it wasn't devastating. I have never been a fan of European reductionist approach...

But from a tactical standpoint, it was a superb FUNCTIONAL performance

They took from Belgium what was their forte

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Ronaldo scored a couple hundred for Real this season and could only impact vs Bukbak kolom All Stars. Higuain may well have run the line, but did no more than should be expected of a supposedly top drawer player, up top for a World Cup favourite. Ordinary 10 yard pass to Messi, put more weight on the ball than he has on his waistline.


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spastic wrote:
Ekorian wrote:
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they will no make it past Costa Rica


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Gonzalo Higuain FW, Napoli

24 goals and 11 assists in 2014 season

Just saying...


1 goal in 4 2014 WC matches.

Just saying...

Sh*t work rate, too slow, does not make his team mates better, out of gas by the 60th minute.

Just saying...

P.S. His goal today was his first for Argentina in the last 11 months


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Wow...

Belgium fought...

This is what we were asking from Naija against France...

Play until the final whistle...

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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Cellular wrote:
txj wrote:
Cellular wrote:
tfco wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:
Lukaku, should have started


kpom

origi was bad.

really bad.


He is young... it happens with young players.


That is why some coaches blood them in slowly... i.e., not starting them back to back games and not letting the good pub get to their head too early.

Make no mistake about it... Bobo is really good...



My personal biases aside, he's a very good player.

After 5mins of the game, Argentina never allowed them a foothold in the game and forced them to depend on crosses into the box...

Superior quality told


It reminds me of playing a game where you heartrate never quite settles... and it takes you time to get into the game. By the time the Belgians settled, they were already disjointed and their key players were never able to get hold of the game...

Not a fan of Argentina but I loved them in this game... They found a way to shore up their defense...

Like you said, the loss of Aguero allowed them for more balance and to be more industrious with the approach... i.e., more team oriented.

:D :D :D :D :D

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On the bright side, Argentina defended well today. I'm pleased with the defensive performance.

On the negative side, the team remains crap and its unlikely we'll improve this tournament. Not enough quality and over-reliance of Messi. Palacio, Lavezzi and Higuain offer nothing. Despite his goal, Higuain was sloppy and his work rate was poor. There was a moment around the 65th minute where Higuain was casually strolling up the pitch and just watched as Lavezzi cut in from the left trying to make something happen. Higuain is one of several -1s on this team.

Di Maria's loss was huge and I think we could've scored 1-2 more had he remained present. Hopefully he is fit for Wednesday.

This is the worst Argentina WC team since 1982 yet we're in the semis after 5 consecutive mediocre performances. I suspect Holland will thrash us in the semis like they should. The main reason Argentina has made it this far is due to lack of competition.

I'm happy with the win but realistically speaking, our WC run ends on Wednesday.


Ah, the old reverse jinx thing!

:wink:

No way man! Argentina is now the favorite. They have to be able to bear this crown. Messi had better be fit to be a King.

Cheers, Mate

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This must be the best I've seen Argentina play defensivesly. Romero was practically on holiday! It that just the introduction of Dimechelis and Biglia? Surely no coincidence!

Very impressive defensive performance! :clap: :clap: :clap:


And the injury to Kun which allowed him bring on Lavezzi

I think he's found his tournament team...



Now? 2 games to the end of the tournament? And no complaints from you? No be you wey dey accuse of Keshi searching for an "AM" before and continuing into games at the wc? :D

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I was rooting for Belgium but it must be said that the Argentina performance was masterful

Their pressure up top neutralized Belgium's ability to play through their midfield

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I hope someone beats this Argentine team. I don't want them winning this thing. Anyone will do. please

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I read Di Maria is out of the tournament with a groin/thigh tear :curse: :curse: :curse:

He has been the only player other than Messi able to create chances from nothing. Looks like Messi really is gonna have to do it all :roll:


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I read Di Maria is out of the tournament with a groin/thigh tear :curse: :curse: :curse:

He has been the only player other than Messi able to create chances from nothing. Looks like Messi really is gonna have to do it all :roll:


what of Aguero? Is he out for the rest of the tournament too?

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On the contrary, the loss of Aguero was not a rate limiting step, a twist of fate that would prove serendipitous, Aguero was never the problem. The lack of balance is one of many charges vs Sabella, he has been a bungling fool, fortuitously, without once commandeering an endearing display. For those banding out the much clichéd "Tourament Team", an over reliance on Messi and pathetic return from a centre forward, one goal in four or so games, is in no way a feather for the cap. Sabella has been one of the competition's worst.


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Heliopolis wrote:
I read Di Maria is out of the tournament with a groin/thigh tear :curse: :curse: :curse:

He has been the only player other than Messi able to create chances from nothing. Looks like Messi really is gonna have to do it all :roll:


what of Aguero? Is he out for the rest of the tournament too?


I read Aguero is recovering well and was on the bench (and available) yesterday. My guess is he'll be ready vs Holland but I am not sure if he'll start.


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Heliopolis wrote:
I read Di Maria is out of the tournament with a groin/thigh tear :curse: :curse: :curse:

He has been the only player other than Messi able to create chances from nothing. Looks like Messi really is gonna have to do it all :roll:

Sad to see a player injured but other teams have also suffered the loss of important/vital players in this WC so it actually makes things fairer. I'm happy Holland won so they give Argentina a stiff test. I don't care who wins this WC as long as no one gets an easy ride all the way to the final.


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