Re: [1st SF]BRA 1 V GER 7{Muller ,Klose,Kroos x2, Khed,Schu}
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:05 pm
Brazilian Goalie Julio Ceasar is completely useless. He is the main reason why Brazil.
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U dey mind Vincent. Even if he were the resurrection and the life, he couldn't bring tiki taka back to life.kolinzo wrote:Nothing tiki taka about what the Germans did. They were direct and on point. No need for 90% possession like the team we know. Tiki taka is dead.Vincent. wrote:You mean tiki-taka is no longer dead?kolinzo wrote:Let's give it up for total football!!
Scolari taking responsibility for this loss. Now that's a coach!!
So, you think tiki-taka means 90% possession? Maybe you should go and watch Barca from 2008/2009 or even Barca in the CL final against your Man U and see the possession stats. The possession stats started mounting after teams began playing 10 defenders in from of their penalty boxes.kolinzo wrote:Nothing tiki taka about what the Germans did. They were direct and on point. No need for 90% possession like the team we know. Tiki taka is dead.Vincent. wrote:You mean tiki-taka is no longer dead?kolinzo wrote:Let's give it up for total football!!
Scolari taking responsibility for this loss. Now that's a coach!!
Dumbo airhead ....7-1, THIS IS BRAZIL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!kolinzo wrote:Kpom! We all know the best coaches can be beaten on any given day, especially in a game like GER vs Brasil. But what I appreciate is honesty. Scolari knows he fhuhcked up and he owns up to it. The other guy was blaming everybody else for his failure!!charlie wrote:Yep I saw that. And he should. He was tactically outcoached and didn't play to the strengths of his current squad.kolinzo wrote:Let's give it up for total football!!
Scolari taking responsibility for this loss. Now that's a coach!!
BTW, before some of you guys start rubbishing Scolari, look at his resume and STFU.
Even the best teams, and coaches can be beaten on any given day.
analyzer wrote:
Cellular wrote:Momentum is a mother!platinum wrote:
They missed Thiago Silva for that big time. When you have knuckleheads like david luiz and marcelo who have no discipline, you need someone to rein them in, they didnt have it.
Yes they were until their display against Colombia which descended into a street brawl...txj wrote:Cellular wrote:Hindsight would have had them play a bit more compact...oloye wrote:When they say tactical indiscipline can destroy a team , look no further than this brasilian team, all the goals they conceeded were comical, save for the first.txj wrote:Every team is different. But many of the players you list above are top players, except for Fred and Jo of course...analyzer wrote:Disagree.. the game is about winning especially in this modern era.. When last did the 82 style pay dividends? since then they have won 2 WC with a different approach..mate wrote:femibyte wrote:The only silver lining is that it may force out the likes of Scolari and a reversion to the old familiar ways of Brazilian football, the samba style. Obviously this sanitized version of Brazil hasn't done the business.
I'd rather have the 1982 team and lose than this rubbish Scolari is putting in front of us.
KPOM!
Cheers, Mate
The issue here is simple - the team was filled with very average players sprinkled with a few WC players like Neymar, Silva, Alves.. .. The last time they won the WC, they had the magic of Dinho, ronaldo, rivaldo.. Then add Carlos/Cafu.. This WC, take out neymar and offense lacks spark.. So whether they decided to play like 82 or not, doubt it would have made much difference with this current crop of players.. We talking of players like Jo, Fred, bernard, Oscar, ramires, willian.. How many will make 2002 squad..
This Brazil team cannot be said to be filled with average players.
It comes down to the choices made by the manager on the TYPE of players he favored...
That's when you need a leader on the field...
#JustDoYourJob
The team was compact until this match. Scolari's teams are always compact.
But what this team was not is Brazillian. To abandon the philosophy of Brazilian football in this manner deserves sever sanction.
Scolari will be a pariah in Brazil the rest of his life...
top players - not IMO.. average is over board - yeah.. But they are good players but not top top players.. IMO, a top player is someone just shy away from being WC.... Paulinho, ramires, oscar, Gustavo, Dante, Fred, Jo, Hulk, Bernard, willian.. nah txj.. I don't think they had the kind of players to execute the style of 82 football most you guys are making an argument for..oloye wrote:When they say tactical indiscipline can destroy a team , look no further than this brasilian team, all the goals they conceeded were comical, save for the first.txj wrote:Every team is different. But many of the players you list above are top players, except for Fred and Jo of course...analyzer wrote:Disagree.. the game is about winning especially in this modern era.. When last did the 82 style pay dividends? since then they have won 2 WC with a different approach..mate wrote:femibyte wrote:The only silver lining is that it may force out the likes of Scolari and a reversion to the old familiar ways of Brazilian football, the samba style. Obviously this sanitized version of Brazil hasn't done the business.
I'd rather have the 1982 team and lose than this rubbish Scolari is putting in front of us.
KPOM!
Cheers, Mate
The issue here is simple - the team was filled with very average players sprinkled with a few WC players like Neymar, Silva, Alves.. .. The last time they won the WC, they had the magic of Dinho, ronaldo, rivaldo.. Then add Carlos/Cafu.. This WC, take out neymar and offense lacks spark.. So whether they decided to play like 82 or not, doubt it would have made much difference with this current crop of players.. We talking of players like Jo, Fred, bernard, Oscar, ramires, willian.. How many will make 2002 squad..
This Brazil team cannot be said to be filled with average players.
It comes down to the choices made by the manager on the TYPE of players he favored...
BOOM! Dancing minstrel, with all the influence he could wield, he's done nothing. Look at the tart you're laying with, spread eagled and debauched!analyzer wrote:
I think the problem with you guys is you misunderstand what tiki-taka is about. It is not about passing for the sake of passing. It is about one-touch, pass-and-move football with players capable of interchanging position with ease. If there is no bus parked in front of the defense, there is no need for 100 passes or 70% posession.anointed wrote:U dey mind Vincent. Even if he were the resurrection and the life, he couldn't bring tiki taka back to life.kolinzo wrote:Nothing tiki taka about what the Germans did. They were direct and on point. No need for 90% possession like the team we know. Tiki taka is dead.Vincent. wrote:You mean tiki-taka is no longer dead?kolinzo wrote:Let's give it up for total football!!
Scolari taking responsibility for this loss. Now that's a coach!!
metalalloy wrote:analyzer wrote:
You are trying too hard Vincent. Tiki Taka is dead just like Samba!Vincent. wrote:So, you think tiki-taka means 90% possession? Maybe you should go and watch Barca from 2008/2009 or even Barca in the CL final against your Man U and see the possession stats. The possession stats started mounting after teams began playing 10 defenders in from of their penalty boxes.kolinzo wrote:Nothing tiki taka about what the Germans did. They were direct and on point. No need for 90% possession like the team we know. Tiki taka is dead.Vincent. wrote:You mean tiki-taka is no longer dead?kolinzo wrote:Let's give it up for total football!!
Scolari taking responsibility for this loss. Now that's a coach!!
In this match, Brazil simply had no defense, talk less of parking 10 defenders. Hence, there was no need huge amounts of passes to try to open up the defense.
Ok then.Vincent. wrote:I think the problem with you guys is you misunderstand what tiki-taka is about. It is not about passing for the sake of passing. It is about one-touch, pass-and-move football with players capable of interchanging position with ease. If there is no bus parked in front of the defense, there is no need for 100 passes or 70% posession.anointed wrote:U dey mind Vincent. Even if he were the resurrection and the life, he couldn't bring tiki taka back to life.kolinzo wrote:Nothing tiki taka about what the Germans did. They were direct and on point. No need for 90% possession like the team we know. Tiki taka is dead.Vincent. wrote:You mean tiki-taka is no longer dead?kolinzo wrote:Let's give it up for total football!!
Scolari taking responsibility for this loss. Now that's a coach!!
There is something so wrong about the tonite's result...it is like a temple desecrated it affects everyone.mcal wrote:...the somber mood on espn set is shocking, like some so dear died
Tiki taka is not total football, my guy.Vincent. wrote:I think the problem with you guys is you misunderstand what tiki-taka is about. It is not about passing for the sake of passing. It is about one-touch, pass-and-move football with players capable of interchanging position with ease. If there is no bus parked in front of the defense, there is no need for 100 passes or 70% posession.anointed wrote:U dey mind Vincent. Even if he were the resurrection and the life, he couldn't bring tiki taka back to life.kolinzo wrote:Nothing tiki taka about what the Germans did. They were direct and on point. No need for 90% possession like the team we know. Tiki taka is dead.Vincent. wrote:You mean tiki-taka is no longer dead?kolinzo wrote:Let's give it up for total football!!
Scolari taking responsibility for this loss. Now that's a coach!!