Re: How Guardiola is revolutionizing English football
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:34 pm
you no well i swearcic old boy wrote:
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/spor ... -pqsbx5xf7Pep Guardiola was told to adapt – instead he bent English football to his will
Hmm, methinks this video was made for last week's derby with the presumption that City would win that game and the EPL then.cic old boy wrote:
Our Gary agrees with me.cic old boy wrote:Many people are taxed about the "revolutionizing" comment. Some are mixing up "revolutionizing" with winning. You can win without "revolutionizing". You can "revolutionize" without winning. One of the most "revolutionizing" coaches is Marcelo Bielsa and he doesn't have that may titles to his name. "Revolutionizing" is about changing the way the game is played - stuff like sweepers were brought in by "revolutionizing" coaches, overlapping fullbacks, wing-backs, etc, building from the back with the goalie, defensive high line, high press, etc are about "revolutionizing". If you "revolutionize" and win, many will copy you.
Wenger was a "revolutionizing" coach in England when he first came.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43789027"I think unquestionably Guardiola will influence the style of football in this country," Lineker said.
"Not only is it pleasing on the eye, but it's bringing success.
"We all know that success is copied and imitated by other teams, other coaches and children playing the game."
Who will copy .......bus parkingcic old boy wrote:Our Gary agrees with me.cic old boy wrote:Many people are taxed about the "revolutionizing" comment. Some are mixing up "revolutionizing" with winning. You can win without "revolutionizing". You can "revolutionize" without winning. One of the most "revolutionizing" coaches is Marcelo Bielsa and he doesn't have that may titles to his name. "Revolutionizing" is about changing the way the game is played - stuff like sweepers were brought in by "revolutionizing" coaches, overlapping fullbacks, wing-backs, etc, building from the back with the goalie, defensive high line, high press, etc are about "revolutionizing". If you "revolutionize" and win, many will copy you.
Wenger was a "revolutionizing" coach in England when he first came.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43789027"I think unquestionably Guardiola will influence the style of football in this country," Lineker said.
"Not only is it pleasing on the eye, but it's bringing success.
"We all know that success is copied and imitated by other teams, other coaches and children playing the game."
After spending 600M Pounds...STERLING...Kaiser1 wrote:Joint earliest league win
Potentially highest points ever in the league
Highest number of goals scored
But he didn't spend a penny on Sterlingpaj wrote: After spending 600M Pounds...STERLING...
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Conte spent 260M this season and he is almost 30points behind almost certain to miss top 4paj wrote: After spending 600M Pounds...STERLING...
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Gary Lineker ...cic old boy wrote:Our Gary agrees with me.cic old boy wrote:Many people are taxed about the "revolutionizing" comment. Some are mixing up "revolutionizing" with winning. You can win without "revolutionizing". You can "revolutionize" without winning. One of the most "revolutionizing" coaches is Marcelo Bielsa and he doesn't have that may titles to his name. "Revolutionizing" is about changing the way the game is played - stuff like sweepers were brought in by "revolutionizing" coaches, overlapping fullbacks, wing-backs, etc, building from the back with the goalie, defensive high line, high press, etc are about "revolutionizing". If you "revolutionize" and win, many will copy you.
Wenger was a "revolutionizing" coach in England when he first came.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43789027"I think unquestionably Guardiola will influence the style of football in this country," Lineker said.
"Not only is it pleasing on the eye, but it's bringing success.
"We all know that success is copied and imitated by other teams, other coaches and children playing the game."
Pep agrees with me on Bielsa. Great football minds think alike.cic old boy wrote:Many people are taxed about the "revolutionizing" comment. Some are mixing up "revolutionizing" with winning. You can win without "revolutionizing". You can "revolutionize" without winning. One of the most "revolutionizing" coaches is Marcelo Bielsa and he doesn't have that may titles to his name. "Revolutionizing" is about changing the way the game is played - stuff like sweepers were brought in by "revolutionizing" coaches, overlapping fullbacks, wing-backs, etc, building from the back with the goalie, defensive high line, high press, etc are about "revolutionizing". If you "revolutionize" and win, many will copy you.
Wenger was a "revolutionizing" coach in England when he first came.
The rest of the article is a great read: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43486412However, Cruyff is by no means the only influence. Another is Argentine Marcelo Bielsa, the man known affectionately as 'El Loco' - the madman.
The former Chile and Argentina boss - most recently the head coach of Lille at club level - is a man of huge influence but relatively few trophies.
"It is important for me to say this about Marcelo because it doesn't matter how many titles he had in his career," Guardiola has said.
"We are judged by that - how much success we have, how many titles we have won. But his titles are much less important than how he has influenced football and his football players. That is why, for me, he is the best coach in the world."
Bielsa told Guardiola during an 11-hour chat at the Argentine's villa that football is all about an idea, fighting for it, improving players, and never losing the passion.
Kaiser1 wrote:Conte spent 260M this season and he is almost 30points behind almost certain to miss top 4paj wrote: After spending 600M Pounds...STERLING...
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Mourinho has spent over 300M yet to win just one, he is double digits behind
Facts not feelings.Kaiser1 wrote:While players like Pogba, Martial, Alexis, Mata are getting worse under Mourinho
This is what ESPN researched about players under Guardiola
It was Raheem Sterling's 22nd goal of the season. He had doubled his previous best tally
But he has company. Around an hour earlier, Ilkay Gundogan converted a penalty. His sixth goal of the season was a new personal best. Another German, Leroy Sane, had already rattled the post. His total stayed at 13, still a career high. Injury deprived Sergio Aguero of the chance to participate; otherwise he may have closed in on his biggest haul of 33 which, nevertheless, came under Guardiola's management.
It is part of a trend that dates back a decade. Players become more prolific under Guardiola; not all, obviously, but sizeable numbers, many of whom score far more than before. Thomas Muller, Mario Mandzukic and Arjen Robben -- with 32, 26 and 21, respectively -- had their finest scoring season in his Bayern Munich teams. So, at Barcelona, did Andres Iniesta (nine), Bojan Krkic (12), Xavi (14), Pedro (23) and Lionel Messi (a ludicrous 73).
The Argentinian is the great outlier. Yet it is notable both that, pre-Guardiola, his highest total was 17 and that he improved year on year under a mentor: 38 in his first year, followed by 47, 53 and then 73. But in a way Xavi is as indicative, a distributor becoming a scorer for Guardiola. The playmaker never got more than seven goals in a season for Barcelona under any other manager. Like Sterling, he doubled that for Guardiola.
http://www.espn.com/soccer/club/manches ... -guardiola
City team was average? Wetin my eyes no go read?cic old boy wrote:
Hehe facts sweet o! You sure sey dem lingard go agree so?Cally wrote:Facts not feelings.Kaiser1 wrote:While players like Pogba, Martial, Alexis, Mata are getting worse under Mourinho
This is what ESPN researched about players under Guardiola
It was Raheem Sterling's 22nd goal of the season. He had doubled his previous best tally
But he has company. Around an hour earlier, Ilkay Gundogan converted a penalty. His sixth goal of the season was a new personal best. Another German, Leroy Sane, had already rattled the post. His total stayed at 13, still a career high. Injury deprived Sergio Aguero of the chance to participate; otherwise he may have closed in on his biggest haul of 33 which, nevertheless, came under Guardiola's management.
It is part of a trend that dates back a decade. Players become more prolific under Guardiola; not all, obviously, but sizeable numbers, many of whom score far more than before. Thomas Muller, Mario Mandzukic and Arjen Robben -- with 32, 26 and 21, respectively -- had their finest scoring season in his Bayern Munich teams. So, at Barcelona, did Andres Iniesta (nine), Bojan Krkic (12), Xavi (14), Pedro (23) and Lionel Messi (a ludicrous 73).
The Argentinian is the great outlier. Yet it is notable both that, pre-Guardiola, his highest total was 17 and that he improved year on year under a mentor: 38 in his first year, followed by 47, 53 and then 73. But in a way Xavi is as indicative, a distributor becoming a scorer for Guardiola. The playmaker never got more than seven goals in a season for Barcelona under any other manager. Like Sterling, he doubled that for Guardiola.
http://www.espn.com/soccer/club/manches ... -guardiola