Manchester United - News, Developments & Season

[wiseone]

No. Juan Mata did that.

so after throwing himself to the ground vs Arsenal, WBA threw him to the ground and stomped on him?

[Chief Ogbunigwe]

No. Juan Mata did that.

so after throwing himself to the ground vs Arsenal, WBA threw him to the ground and stomped on him?

Mata scored an own goal?

[wiseone]

Di Maria was excellent for PSG against Chelsea tonight. Totally unrecognisable from the statue that "played" for Man Utd last season. Utter madness for Man Utd to let him leave.

[tfco]

Di Maria was excellent for PSG against Chelsea tonight. Totally unrecognisable from the statue that "played" for Man Utd last season. Utter madness for Man Utd to let him leave.

yes, utter madness to let Falcao leave too because one day we'll see him score many goals for another team.

Let it go; he came over, did not produce.

[wiseone]

I am reposting what I told you a few days ago:

ADM's performances were below par. However that is not a reason to sell a player bought for 60 million only months earlier! (otherwise 90% of players in world football would be sold at the end of every season) LVG should have told ADM to knuckle down and start playing like the player he was at RM.

Despite being injured or out of form for most of the season, ADM still got more assists than anyone apart from Hazard! (who played for the champions and was the player of the season!).

yes, utter madness to let Falcao leave too because one day we'll see him score many goals for another team.

Let it go; he came over, did not produce.

[wiseone]

The defeat to WBA has Mr Philosophy's fingerprints over it. Man Utd were level at 0-0 and repelling WBA comfortably. LVG decides to make a sub. He decided to take off the only attacking MF Man Utd had left on the pitch (Herrera) to bring on Schneiderlin (a DM without Herrera's ability to pick a killer pass). This occurs after Mata (the only other creative player Man Utd have on the pitch) has already been sent off and Man Utd need to retain possession to counter-effect being a man down, and the perpetual running of "Forrest Gump" Darren Fletcher who did a great job of demonstrating why he should not have been sold by LVG.

4 minutes after LVG made this 'inspired substitution', WBA scored and then took control of the game.

Man Utd are now losing with 10 minutes to go away from home and down to 10 men. LVG has two options for a sub:
(a) bring on an attacking player, take a risk, and throw everything at WBA for the last 10 minutes on a desperate effort to equalise and show how desperate he is to qualify for the Champions League; or
(b) take off the left back, replace him with an inexperienced 18yo kid who normally plays in midifeld, and ask him to play out of position at left back.

I think you can guess which option he took. Seriously, losing with 10 minutes left; the best bit of "tactical genius" he can come up with is to sub the left back, and play a midfielder out of position there? That was his grand plan to get back in the game?!

[benteke]

The defeat to WBA has Mr Philosophy's fingerprints over it. Man Utd were level at 0-0 and repelling WBA comfortably. LVG decides to make a sub. He decided to take off the only attacking MF Man Utd had left on the pitch (Herrera) to bring on Schneiderlin (a DM without Herrera's ability to pick a killer pass). This occurs after Mata (the only other creative player Man Utd have on the pitch) has already been sent off and Man Utd need to retain possession to counter-effect being a man down, and the perpetual running of "Forrest Gump" Darren Fletcher who did a great job of demonstrating why he should not have been sold by LVG.

4 minutes after LVG made this 'inspired substitution', WBA scored and then took control of the game.

Man Utd are now losing with 10 minutes to go away from home and down to 10 men. LVG has two options for a sub:
(a) bring on an attacking player, take a risk, and throw everything at WBA for the last 10 minutes on a desperate effort to equalise and show how desperate he is to qualify for the Champions League; or
(b) take off the left back, replace him with an inexperienced 18yo kid who normally plays in midifeld, and ask him to play out of position at left back.

I think you can guess which option he took. Seriously, losing with 10 minutes left; the best bit of "tactical genius" he can come up with is to sub the left back, and play a midfielder out of position there? That was his grand plan to get back in the game?!

Wiseone, fair enough sometimes LVG gets the tactics wrong, but this happens to many top coaches too, remember even Ferguson used to get criticised many times for messing up tactics or selections.
But more often than not it didn't matter in the end coz the players used to come through.

Think about this: for the last 2 seasons gone past, the Man U player of the year is De Gea.
This season he will be the player of the year again and it won't even be close, runner up(whoever it is) will be a distant 2nd.
This is unusual in Manchester United history, De Gea was the first time a goalkeeper won that award.

The other players are non-existent majority of the season, you have Smalling in patches, Martial here and there, and that's about it.
Only De Gea is playing like a 1st team starter in a big club like United, the rest are like squad players, bench warmers.
Maybe some are past their prime but questions must be asked of others, when will we see them perform to Man Utd standards like De Gea ?

[wiseone]

We could live with him getting tactics wrong some of the time (if he actually got it right some of the time). The trouble is he gets it wrong most of the time, makes the same mistakes week after week, and shows no inclination to change.

Very soon Miracle Dave will get tired of pulling off miracles every game to compensate for the dross in front of him, and will go home to Madrid to be with his GF.

Wiseone, fair enough sometimes LVG gets the tactics wrong, but this happens to many top coaches too, remember even Ferguson used to get criticised many times for messing up tactics or selections.
But more often than not it didn't matter in the end coz the players used to come through.

Think about this: for the last 2 seasons gone past, the Man U player of the year is De Gea.
This season he will be the player of the year again and it won't even be close, runner up(whoever it is) will be a distant 2nd.
This is unusual in Manchester United history, De Gea was the first time a goalkeeper won that award.

The other players are non-existent majority of the season, you have Smalling in patches, Martial here and there, and that's about it.
Only De Gea is playing like a 1st team starter in a big club like United, the rest are like squad players, bench warmers.
Maybe some are past their prime but questions must be asked of others, when will we see them perform to Man Utd standards like De Gea ?

[benteke]

We could live with him getting tactics wrong some of the time (if he actually got it right some of the time). The trouble is he gets it wrong most of the time, makes the same mistakes week after week, and shows no inclination to change.

Very soon Miracle Dave will get tired of pulling off miracles every game to compensate for the dross in front of him, and will go home to Madrid to be with his GF.

Wiseone, fair enough sometimes LVG gets the tactics wrong, but this happens to many top coaches too, remember even Ferguson used to get criticised many times for messing up tactics or selections.
But more often than not it didn't matter in the end coz the players used to come through.

Think about this: for the last 2 seasons gone past, the Man U player of the year is De Gea.
This season he will be the player of the year again and it won't even be close, runner up(whoever it is) will be a distant 2nd.
This is unusual in Manchester United history, De Gea was the first time a goalkeeper won that award.

The other players are non-existent majority of the season, you have Smalling in patches, Martial here and there, and that's about it.
Only De Gea is playing like a 1st team starter in a big club like United, the rest are like squad players, bench warmers.
Maybe some are past their prime but questions must be asked of others, when will we see them perform to Man Utd standards like De Gea ?

But Wiseone, which player can you say is coming 2nd to De Gea this season ?
Even Rashford has a bigger shout for that Arsenal performance.
That's how useless Manchester United outfield players are allowing themselves to be.

Back in the day when City beat us 6-1 at OT under Ferguson, you could see Rio and Evra wanted to win the game even with 10men, they wanted it so much they were pushing forward leaving spaces for City to make it 6-2
1.

What about these ones, Man Utd is playing it's biggest enemy in Europe and their body language is weak.

These players are hiding

[wiseone]

The fact that Rashford (an 18yo kid only 2 weeks into his professional football career) is being touted as one of the season's bright spots (after the GK) says a lot. A team whose star player is the GK has a serious problem.

But Wiseone, which player can you say is coming 2nd to De Gea this season ?
Even Rashford has a bigger shout for that Arsenal performance.
That's how useless Manchester United outfield players are allowing themselves to be.

Back in the day when City beat us 6-1 at OT under Ferguson, you could see Rio and Evra wanted to win the game even with 10men, they wanted it so much they were pushing forward leaving spaces for City to make it 6-2
1.

What about these ones, Man Utd is playing it's biggest enemy in Europe and their body language is weak.

These players are hiding

[wiseone]

Depay displayed his defensive "skills" once again yesterday for Holland against England. He totally went to sleep and just ambled back at a trot, then stopped, and siddon look as Kyle Walker (a FB!) waltzed past him and played the pass that set up England's goal for Jamie Vardy. Depay has talent but the guy is a defensive liability.

[wiseone]

This is why Man Utd signed De Gea instead of Neuer:

[tfco]

lose to Spuds
f u c king SPUDS
Villa is next



AFCON 2017 go sweet o
DNQ no good o

[wiseone]

Things I learned from the 2-0 victory over Crystal Palace:

1) Man Utd look more dynamic with Tony V in the team. He adds pace, width, and directness. Man Utd have missed him. That said, he should be playing RW, not faffing about at RB.

2) Man Utd look better with Rooney in the team. He is the one player in the team (not called Mata) that can spray the ball 40 yards wide from central areas. Something Man Utd have lacked since Scholes retired. I also have to give him credit for playing well despite being played in midfield by Mr Philosophy.

3) Rashford needs a rest.

4) Martial: see Rashford above.

5) Lingard: see Rashford above.

6) Depay has lots of talent, but very little tactical awareness. His football brain needs to come on in leaps and bounds for him to fulfill his potential. He is a bit like a footballing Frankenstein (blessed with great physical gifts and awesome potential, but needs a brain to activate it). He gives the ball away regularly, runs into dead ends, and is reckless with the ball. He tries to play with "swagger" and like a superstar even though he not really done anything to deserve A-List status. His brainless tactical play is what cost Man Utd 3 points away against Chelsea, when he recklessly surrendered possession in injury time. If Man Utd had those 3 points now, they'd be ahead of Man City, in a Champions League spot, and breathing down Arsenal's neck. I think he should be sent out on loan next season for "football brain development".

7) Zaha is a better player that Depay. The fact that LVG sold Zaha for peanuts then bought Depay for 25 million says a lot about LVG.

[kajifu]

This is why Man Utd signed De Gea instead of Neuer:

You guys need to give that Eric guy bonus for this

[wiseone]

Too late for that. Moyes' first act (in his infinite wisdom) was to fire Steele and the rest of the coaching squad that led Man Utd to the EPL title the previous season, 3 CL finals in 4 years, and 4 EPL titles in 5 years.

Moyes, Leader, Legend.

You guys need to give that Eric guy bonus for this

[kajifu]

Manu fans,i think you guys can over take City for top 4.
I doubt they will beat Stoke this weekend.
If they drop points then you guys should take advantage.
We will beat them and your guys allow Leicester beat you guys.
That is a solid deal right there,

[YemiBrazil]

Manu fans,i think you guys can over take City for top 4.
I doubt they will beat Stoke this weekend.
If they drop points then you guys should take advantage.
We will beat them and your guys allow Leicester beat you guys.
That is a solid deal right there,

Is this proposal approved by Pa Wenger? At Arsenal, the owners' objective is different from the fans' dreams

[benteke]

Things I learned from the 2-0 victory over Crystal Palace:

1) Man Utd look more dynamic with Tony V in the team. He adds pace, width, and directness. Man Utd have missed him. That said, he should be playing RW, not faffing about at RB.

2) Man Utd look better with Rooney in the team. He is the one player in the team (not called Mata) that can spray the ball 40 yards wide from central areas. Something Man Utd have lacked since Scholes retired. I also have to give him credit for playing well despite being played in midfield by Mr Philosophy.

3) Rashford needs a rest.

4) Martial: see Rashford above.

5) Lingard: see Rashford above.

6) Depay has lots of talent, but very little tactical awareness. His football brain needs to come on in leaps and bounds for him to fulfill his potential. He is a bit like a footballing Frankenstein (blessed with great physical gifts and awesome potential, but needs a brain to activate it). He gives the ball away regularly, runs into dead ends, and is reckless with the ball. He tries to play with "swagger" and like a superstar even though he not really done anything to deserve A-List status. His brainless tactical play is what cost Man Utd 3 points away against Chelsea, when he recklessly surrendered possession in injury time. If Man Utd had those 3 points now, they'd be ahead of Man City, in a Champions League spot, and breathing down Arsenal's neck. I think he should be sent out on loan next season for "football brain development".

7) Zaha is a better player that Depay. The fact that LVG sold Zaha for peanuts then bought Depay for 25 million says a lot about LVG.

Now that the injuries are less, it's time to win FA Cup and save some blushes

[wiseone]

Shocking refereeing in that semi-final v Everton. That tackle by Fosu-Mensah on his west African brother Barkley was never a penalty. Mensah got the ball. PLUS Everton's captain Jagielka should have been sent off for handballing Fellaini's shot on the line (for which Man Utd should also have got a penalty).

[wiseone]

Honestly, at times I think LVG is either a liar or delusional. He said (yet again):

When I took over we had five or six players above 32/33 years old... There were not too many young players.

That is a bone faced lie!
When he took over Man Utd, the only player in the entire squad that was up to 32 was Carrick. The squad also had several players under 25 (Jones, Smalling, Rafael, Januzaj, Zaha, Welbeck, Kagawa, Shaw, Herrera, Henriquez), and several more in the peak years of their career between 25-30 (Rooney, Nani, Valencia, Hernandez, Young, Evans, Anderson). In fact only three players in the entire squad were over 30 (Carrick, RVP, and Fletcher).

Why does he resort to this revisionism to justify his underperformance?

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... g-11261980

[tfco]

Chris Smalling voted as Players' Player of The Season.

Strange.

Maybe the most improved, but...

[wiseone]

Not strange at all. The only players in that squad who have been consistent all season are De Gea, Smalling, Blind, and Martial.

Smalling has been excellent all season. His only rival for POTS was De Gea.

In other news, Marcos Rojo has the worst distribution of any Manchester United LB I have ever seen. Denis Irwin, Paddy Evra, Phil Neville, and Arthur Albiston are shaking their head somewhere right now. Heck even the teenage Cameron Borthwick-Jackson is a better crosser than Rojo.

Chris Smalling voted as Players' Player of The Season.

Strange.

Maybe the most improved, but...