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• Guinea have been excluded from 2019 U17 World Cup
• Banned from 2021 and 2023 editions of the U17 AFCON
• Aboubacar Conte and Tidiane Keita banned for two years.
• Runners-up Medals must be returned.
• Senegal will qualify for the 2019 U17 World Cup
• The person at the Guinea FA who entered modified passport detail will be banned from being involved in CAF activities for two years.
• Guinea FA fined $50,000 USD, liable for a further for $50,000 USD fine if it happens again within the next four years.

Lolly wrote:Wow. That was quick.

Lolly wrote:Wow. That was quick.

JACKAL wrote:

Lolly wrote:Wow. That was quick.

Not Quick enough.... We should have been playing in the final v Cameroon.

I guess this mean we get the 3rd place medal ????

YUJAM wrote:So wet in happened to the MRI machine in this case?

pajimoh wrote:CAF is a foolish organization. There was complaint and they still allowed Guinea to play in the final. Shameless morons

The West Africans have been banned from the next two editions of the continental showpiece as well as the World Cup for fielding two overage players

Guinea have been disqualified from participating in the next two editions of the U-17 Africa Cup of Nations and the next FIFA U-17 World Cup after fielding two ineligible players – Aboubacar Conte and Ahmed Tidiane Keita – in an Afcon U-17 game in Tanzania against Senegal in April.

The decision was made earlier this week by the Confederation of African Football’s Disciplinary Council, which met at the governing body’s headquarters in Cairo, Egypt to reach a consensus after a complaint by the Senegalese Football Federation concerning the aforementioned players.
The dates of birth revealed before the game indicated that Conte and Keita were born in 2002, which contradicted the pair’s details as they were submitted for a youth tournament in Japan in 2017, which showed the duo's dates of birth to be in 2001.

Guinea finished as runners-up at the U-17 Nations Cup, defeating Nigeria on penalties in the semi-final, before a shootout defeat at the hands of Cameroon in the final.
Senegal, who originally finished third in Group B, behind Cameroon and Guinea, therefore missing out on U-17 World Cup qualification, will now represent the continent in Brazil.

As reported by Football365, below are the excerpts from the CAF statement:
"The Disciplinary Jury decides unanimously...to impose the following sanctions against the Guinean Football Federation:

1. That the players Aboubacar Conte and Ahmed Tidiane Keita were not eligible to participate with Guinea in the Final Tournament of the U-17 Afcon played in Tanzania. Because of their participation, the team is excluded from the competition and all its results and achievements during the competition must be cancelled;

2. That the Guinean Football Federation, following its disqualification, is prevented from representing CAF at the FIFA U-17 World Cup to be held in 2019;

3. That in accordance with the regulations of the U-17 Afcon, the Guinean Football Federation is banned from the next two (editions of the CAF U-17 Afcon);

4. That players Aboubacar Conte and Tidiane Keita are prohibited from exercising any activity related to football for a period of two years;

5. That all medals received as 'finalists' must be returned to CAF within twenty one (21) days, failing which a financial penalty of $ 20,000 (twenty thousand US dollars) will be imposed;

6. The Organizing Committee will be invited to reinstate Senegal and the Executive Committee to approve the participation of Senegal as CAF's 4th representative at the FIFA U-17 World Cup to be held in 2019;

7. That the person responsible for entering the date of birth of the players concerned in the final tournament of the U17 CAN be sanctioned in accordance with Article 135.2 and be prohibited from exercising all football related activities for a period of two years
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8. That the Guinean Football Federation be sanctioned with a fine of 100,000 USD (one hundred thousand US dollars) for the falsification of the information communicated concerning the participation of the players in the Afcon U-17 tournament organized in Tanzania. Half of this fine, in particular $50,000 (fifty thousand US dollars), is suspended for a period of four years provided that the Guinean Federation is not guilty of a similar offence during this period.

Age cheating has been a persistent problem in African football, with FIFA introducing MRI scans to check the ages of players at the 2009 U-17 World Cup, which was held in Nigeria.

https://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/age-che ... 65mhbmam8x

jette1 wrote:

pajimoh wrote:CAF is a foolish organization. There was complaint and they still allowed Guinea to play in the final. Shameless morons

not really because due process was followed and Guinea couldn't have been immediately removed until investigation was complete. You would also be the first to call CAF moron if they had removed Guinea and it turned out they were innocent. Too bad we had to bear the blunt. what we could have done is beat guinea and we failed to do so. CAF granting us pacified trip to the final doesn't really prove our superiority or does it ?

jette1 wrote:

pajimoh wrote:CAF is a foolish organization. There was complaint and they still allowed Guinea to play in the final. Shameless morons

not really because due process was followed and Guinea couldn't have been immediately removed until investigation was complete. You would also be the first to call CAF moron if they had removed Guinea and it turned out they were innocent. Too bad we had to bear the blunt. what we could have done is beat guinea and we failed to do so. CAF granting us pacified trip to the final doesn't really prove our superiority or does it ?

Orion wrote:

YUJAM wrote:So wet in happened to the MRI machine in this case?

As many of us have been saying, the MRI program is ineffective and just something for FIFA to show that they're doing something about age cheating. The reality is that they have no answers.

MRI can disqualify a legitimate U17 talent and pass an old man.

The U17 should be scrapped or restricted only to players who can produce an authentic birth cert that can be verified. If you don't have a birth cert then by default you should be automatically disqualified from an age-restricted competition anyway as your age cannot be verified.

tfco wrote:

jette1 wrote:

pajimoh wrote:CAF is a foolish organization. There was complaint and they still allowed Guinea to play in the final. Shameless morons

not really because due process was followed and Guinea couldn't have been immediately removed until investigation was complete. You would also be the first to call CAF moron if they had removed Guinea and it turned out they were innocent. Too bad we had to bear the blunt. what we could have done is beat guinea and we failed to do so. CAF granting us pacified trip to the final doesn't really prove our superiority or does it ?

quite difficult to beat your elders, esp at the age-grade level

ANC wrote:Team Nigeria was just poor.

akamoke wrote:

Orion wrote:

YUJAM wrote:So wet in happened to the MRI machine in this case?

As many of us have been saying, the MRI program is ineffective and just something for FIFA to show that they're doing something about age cheating. The reality is that they have no answers.

MRI can disqualify a legitimate U17 talent and pass an old man.

The U17 should be scrapped or restricted only to players who can produce an authentic birth cert that can be verified. If you don't have a birth cert then by default you should be automatically disqualified from an age-restricted competition anyway as your age cannot be verified.

I agree with your point on birth certificate, everyone Under 17 will be born this century, and there is no excuse anywhere not to produce birth certificate for any child born from 2002 onwards. The excuse of not having birth certificate facilities is now weak

jette1 wrote:

pajimoh wrote:CAF is a foolish organization. There was complaint and they still allowed Guinea to play in the final. Shameless morons

not really because due process was followed and Guinea couldn't have been immediately removed until investigation was complete. You would also be the first to call CAF moron if they had removed Guinea and it turned out they were innocent. Too bad we had to bear the blunt. what we could have done is beat guinea and we failed to do so. CAF granting us pacified trip to the final doesn't really prove our superiority or does it ?

pajimoh wrote:

jette1 wrote:

pajimoh wrote:CAF is a foolish organization. There was complaint and they still allowed Guinea to play in the final. Shameless morons

not really because due process was followed and Guinea couldn't have been immediately removed until investigation was complete. You would also be the first to call CAF moron if they had removed Guinea and it turned out they were innocent. Too bad we had to bear the blunt. what we could have done is beat guinea and we failed to do so. CAF granting us pacified trip to the final doesn't really prove our superiority or does it ?

How about the rights of those who were denied playing in the final? Their deeds came to light over 48 hours before the final with Japa willing to supply proof which can be faxed, scanned and emailed.
A meeting should have been conyed to give Guinea an option to contest it if they think it's false but will attract longer punishment if the allegation holds. That way they would have been allowed to play the final pending full investigation.
If they forfeit their right to contest it then another team should have replaced them.

CAF was on point on this one

The boys denied progression are as much the victim and not Guinea.

The whole world read about the allegation but not a word of clarity from CAF as to why Guinea was still in the competition, until now.

pajimoh wrote:

jette1 wrote:

pajimoh wrote:CAF is a foolish organization. There was complaint and they still allowed Guinea to play in the final. Shameless morons

not really because due process was followed and Guinea couldn't have been immediately removed until investigation was complete. You would also be the first to call CAF moron if they had removed Guinea and it turned out they were innocent. Too bad we had to bear the blunt. what we could have done is beat guinea and we failed to do so. CAF granting us pacified trip to the final doesn't really prove our superiority or does it ?

How about the rights of those who were denied playing in the final? Their deeds came to light over 48 hours before the final with Japa willing to supply proof which can be faxed, scanned and emailed.
A meeting should have been conyed to give Guinea an option to contest it if they think it's false but will attract longer punishment if the allegation holds. That way they would have been allowed to play the final pending full investigation.
If they forfeit their right to contest it then another team should have replaced them.

The boys denied progression are as much the victim and not Guinea.

The whole world read about the allegation but not a word of clarity from CAF as to why Guinea was still in the competition, until now.

Gotti wrote:

akamoke wrote:

Orion wrote:

YUJAM wrote:So wet in happened to the MRI machine in this case?

As many of us have been saying, the MRI program is ineffective and just something for FIFA to show that they're doing something about age cheating. The reality is that they have no answers.

MRI can disqualify a legitimate U17 talent and pass an old man.

The U17 should be scrapped or restricted only to players who can produce an authentic birth cert that can be verified. If you don't have a birth cert then by default you should be automatically disqualified from an age-restricted competition anyway as your age cannot be verified.

I agree with your point on birth certificate, everyone Under 17 will be born this century, and there is no excuse anywhere not to produce birth certificate for any child born from 2002 onwards. The excuse of not having birth certificate facilities is now weak

They have birth certificates...

The certificates are however not considered reliable (frankly no Nigerian certificate is, and thus many embassies have to authenticate Nigerian certificates before accepting them) - and that's the systemic problem that needs to be fixed!

Orion wrote:

YUJAM wrote:So wet in happened to the MRI machine in this case?

As many of us have been saying, the MRI program is ineffective and just something for FIFA to show that they're doing something about age cheating. The reality is that they have no answers.

MRI can disqualify a legitimate U17 talent and pass an old man.

The U17 should be scrapped or restricted only to players who can produce an authentic birth cert that can be verified. If you don't have a birth cert then by default you should be automatically disqualified from an age-restricted competition anyway as your age cannot be verified.