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FA CUP & EPL. Are they still competitive ?

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 6:53 pm
by EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA
5 kindo with 10mins to go at the FA cup final. Good for Man City but has money ruined the competitiveness that made the English league so attractive to the rest of the world?

We already know that the top 5 will be almost the same next yr as it is this year, money will go long way in determining who finishes where but it’ll be the same teams in the top 5. Even the relegation battle that was once exciting is no longer because the bottom teams get beat so bad by the top 5 that they’re relegated without much of a fight.

It’s all becoming rather boring tbh. For the next 5 yrs Arsenal and Tottenham will finish 3,4 or 5 and man city, Liverpool and united will be 1 ,2 or 3. :boo:

Re: FA CUP & EPL. Are they still competitive ?

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 6:58 pm
by Coach
It’s not the first time City have bagged the treble. Inheritance sweet o!

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Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:00 pm
by charlie
This has got to be the most boring FA Cup final I have ever seen.

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Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:03 pm
by Its a Goal
Are you saying Chelsea won't be in the top 5?

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Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:11 pm
by GG of G
It's not fun really. But I blame the other so called big teams not taking the FA cup serious

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Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:14 pm
by Coach
United took it serious...strong starting lineup by comparison to Wolves. Bashed up.

Re: FA CUP & EPL. Are they still competitive ?

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:25 pm
by EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA
Its a Goal wrote:Are you saying Chelsea won't be in the top 5?
There’re number 5 or 6 for the next 5-6 years.

Re: FA CUP & EPL. Are they still competitive ?

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 10:22 pm
by benteke
But City did have an easier run to the final, they didn't meet any top 6 side.
United met Chelsea and Arsenal, whilst City was going through the likes of Swansea, Brighton, Newport, and even got seriously lucky against Swansea when an upset was on the cards.

Anyway you can only beat what's put in front of you, so they took their chance

Re: FA CUP & EPL. Are they still competitive ?

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 10:48 pm
by EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA
benteke wrote:But City did have an easier run to the final, they didn't meet any top 6 side.
United met Chelsea and Arsenal, whilst City was going through the likes of Swansea, Brighton, Newport, and even got seriously lucky against Swansea when an upset was on the cards.

Anyway you can only beat what's put in front of you, so they took their chance
Top 6 again. When did the FA cup become a top 6!tournament? Used to be that teams could come out of the championship or lower Epl and get to the finals, now the moneybags have stopped that. When you line up a $1b worth of players you should win every trophy there is to win.

Re: FA CUP & EPL. Are they still competitive ?

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:44 pm
by benteke
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
benteke wrote:But City did have an easier run to the final, they didn't meet any top 6 side.
United met Chelsea and Arsenal, whilst City was going through the likes of Swansea, Brighton, Newport, and even got seriously lucky against Swansea when an upset was on the cards.

Anyway you can only beat what's put in front of you, so they took their chance
Top 6 again. When did the FA cup become a top 6!tournament? Used to be that teams could come out of the championship or lower Epl and get to the finals, now the moneybags have stopped that. When you line up a $1b worth of players you should win every trophy there is to win.

No i mean they didn't meet the kind of big teams in England that would normally cause them very serious problems.
Of the remaining dangerous teams there was Chelsea, Arsenal, United. And it was to their advantage that they didn't even get drawn against any of those sides.
Meeting any one of those and anything could have happened.
Swansea was a scary affair and City needed the ref. But then you make your luck.

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Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:53 pm
by Ekorian
charlie wrote:This has got to be the most boring FA Cup final I have ever seen.
Boring or one-sided?

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Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:56 pm
by theYemster
Ekorian wrote:
charlie wrote:This has got to be the most boring FA Cup final I have ever seen.
Boring or one-sided?
Both.

Re: FA CUP & EPL. Are they still competitive ?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:48 am
by Mr. Piffington
United have won 13 PL titles out of 27 seasons, that's almost half of all titles won in the PL era, nobody was talking about competitiveness then, now that others are looking to dominate you have people fixing their mouths talking about lack of competitiveness. Just admit that your team isn't dominating anymore and don't look to dominate in the near future, the only hope is to beg the authorities to change the rules so you can dominate again maybe that will be "competitive" enough for some.

Re: FA CUP & EPL. Are they still competitive ?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:49 am
by Mr. Piffington
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:
benteke wrote:But City did have an easier run to the final, they didn't meet any top 6 side.
United met Chelsea and Arsenal, whilst City was going through the likes of Swansea, Brighton, Newport, and even got seriously lucky against Swansea when an upset was on the cards.

Anyway you can only beat what's put in front of you, so they took their chance
Top 6 again. When did the FA cup become a top 6!tournament? Used to be that teams could come out of the championship or lower Epl and get to the finals, now the moneybags have stopped that. When you line up a $1b worth of players you should win every trophy there is to win.
Who has $1 billion worth of players?

Re: FA CUP & EPL. Are they still competitive ?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 10:16 am
by benteke
Mr. Piffington wrote:United have won 13 PL titles out of 27 seasons, that's almost half of all titles won in the PL era, nobody was talking about competitiveness then, now that others are looking to dominate you have people fixing their mouths talking about lack of competitiveness. Just admit that your team isn't dominating anymore and don't look to dominate in the near future, the only hope is to beg the authorities to change the rules so you can dominate again maybe that will be "competitive" enough for some.
The people who are talking about lack of competitiveness are making an error

The EPL will become even more competitive.
Once Arsenal, Chelsea and United fix their issues, which is soon rather be than later, that title will be exchanging hands.
Liverpool was 4th last season and will also be winning the title soon.
Arsenals has been winning the FA Cup of late

Re: FA CUP & EPL. Are they still competitive ?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 10:51 am
by Coach
The EPL was decided on the last day by a single point. The FA Cup quarter-finalists included Wolves, Watford, Millwall, Crystal Palace, Swansea and Brighton. Predictable perhaps. Yes, the final was one-sided, largely due to Garcia’s mismanagement of the second-half, Watford didn’t need to go gung-ho from the off. The scoreline was as much a reflection of the in-game management as it was the gulf in class.

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Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 3:19 pm
by wiseone
Lucky is not the word. It was robbery. Even though VAR was in use for other FA Cup matches, for some odd reason it was not used in City's match at Swansea. Net effect: City (who were losing 0-2 with 20 minutes left) got back in the game after the ref incorrectly awarded them a hotly disputed penalty. Then Aguero scored the winner from an offside position. 2 "goals" that should have been disallowed.
benteke wrote:But City did have an easier run to the final, they didn't meet any top 6 side.
United met Chelsea and Arsenal, whilst City was going through the likes of Swansea, Brighton, Newport, and even got seriously lucky against Swansea when an upset was on the cards.

Anyway you can only beat what's put in front of you, so they took their chance

Re: FA CUP & EPL. Are they still competitive ?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 3:59 pm
by Comrade Machel
EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:5 kindo with 10mins to go at the FA cup final. Good for Man City but has money ruined the competitiveness that made the English league so attractive to the rest of the world?

We already know that the top 5 will be almost the same next yr as it is this year, money will go long way in determining who finishes where but it’ll be the same teams in the top 5. Even the relegation battle that was once exciting is no longer because the bottom teams get beat so bad by the top 5 that they’re relegated without much of a fight.

It’s all becoming rather boring tbh. For the next 5 yrs Arsenal and Tottenham will finish 3,4 or 5 and man city, Liverpool and united will be 1 ,2 or 3. :boo:
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Not just in england but world football in general. Even the champions league is no longer that exciting for me.same teams all the time