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The poor performances by the female teams can no longer be ignored - Nigeria 0, Norway 3; SA 1, Spain 3 and Cameroon 0, Canada 1. These results have come to be expected of African teams. Two more matches each and they all will be evacuating their hotels. Economy is certainly a factor but it doesn't explain it all - where's the creativity in stretching available funds?

Africa was one of the first regions to embrace women soccer and at that time may be better than or equal to many of the countries in Europe and S. America. No more. Those regions have stepped up their game and Africa is beginning to take its traditional place behind the rest of the world. And in all this I've seen zero action taken by the so-called leaders to address this trend.

They can emphasize development in the schools to discover new talent. They can devote a huge chunk of this tournament to arrange training for the present squad. They can also do fund raisers and seek corporate donations. At this stage, it doesn't require a whole lot of money to assemble these players. African teams can arrange more frequent tournaments and joint training programs. All that money used to acquire a foreign coach by Nigeria could have been put to better use.

There's no need to continue to attend these tournaments only to be humiliated and treated by the media with benignly low expectations.
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The poor performances by the female teams can no longer be ignored - Nigeria 0, Norway 3; SA 1, Spain 3 and Cameroon 0, Canada 1. These results have come to be expected of African teams. Two more matches each and they all will be evacuating their hotels. Economy is certainly a factor but it doesn't explain it all - where's the creativity in stretching available funds?

Africa was one of the first regions to embrace women soccer and at that time may be better than or equal to many of the countries in Europe and S. America. No more. Those regions have stepped up their game and Africa is beginning to take its traditional place behind the rest of the world. And in all this I've seen zero action taken by the so-called leaders to address this trend.

They can emphasize development in the schools to discover new talent. They can devote a huge chunk of this tournament to arrange training for the present squad. They can also do fund raisers and seek corporate donations. At this stage, it doesn't require a whole lot of money to assemble these players. African teams can arrange more frequent tournaments and joint training programs. All that money used to acquire a foreign coach by Nigeria could have been put to better use.

There's no need to continue to attend these tournaments only to be humiliated and treated by the media with benignly low expectations.
Bell




The money used to acquire a foreign coach has nothing to do with it. We simply are not prepared to make the kind of investments necessary to move our game forward. Up until the last few months the NFF hardly gives our ladies a second thought. The women's league is a shambles, the age grade program is a mess, the government doesn't invest in the Women's game, Corporate bodies don't show enough interest and the grassroots development of the Women's game has a long way to go in Nigeria. Yet we show up at the World Cup and expect to compete with countries who actually allocate resources to Women's football.


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mystic wrote:
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The poor performances by the female teams can no longer be ignored - Nigeria 0, Norway 3; SA 1, Spain 3 and Cameroon 0, Canada 1. These results have come to be expected of African teams. Two more matches each and they all will be evacuating their hotels. Economy is certainly a factor but it doesn't explain it all - where's the creativity in stretching available funds?

Africa was one of the first regions to embrace women soccer and at that time may be better than or equal to many of the countries in Europe and S. America. No more. Those regions have stepped up their game and Africa is beginning to take its traditional place behind the rest of the world. And in all this I've seen zero action taken by the so-called leaders to address this trend.

They can emphasize development in the schools to discover new talent. They can devote a huge chunk of this tournament to arrange training for the present squad. They can also do fund raisers and seek corporate donations. At this stage, it doesn't require a whole lot of money to assemble these players. African teams can arrange more frequent tournaments and joint training programs. All that money used to acquire a foreign coach by Nigeria could have been put to better use.

There's no need to continue to attend these tournaments only to be humiliated and treated by the media with benignly low expectations.
Bell




The money used to acquire a foreign coach has nothing to do with it. We simply are not prepared to make the kind of investments necessary to move our game forward. Up until the last few months the NFF hardly gives our ladies a second thought. The women's league is a shambles, the age grade program is a mess, the government doesn't invest in the Women's game, Corporate bodies don't show enough interest and the grassroots development of the Women's game has a long way to go in Nigeria. Yet we show up at the World Cup and expect to compete with countries who actually allocate resources to Women's football.


The natural IQ levels of African women are too low to play intelligent soccer. They are too timid to compete at the world stage. Sorry to say this but that is what I have observed over the years, watching these women.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:19 am 
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ahidjo2 wrote:
mystic wrote:
Bell wrote:
The poor performances by the female teams can no longer be ignored - Nigeria 0, Norway 3; SA 1, Spain 3 and Cameroon 0, Canada 1. These results have come to be expected of African teams. Two more matches each and they all will be evacuating their hotels. Economy is certainly a factor but it doesn't explain it all - where's the creativity in stretching available funds?

Africa was one of the first regions to embrace women soccer and at that time may be better than or equal to many of the countries in Europe and S. America. No more. Those regions have stepped up their game and Africa is beginning to take its traditional place behind the rest of the world. And in all this I've seen zero action taken by the so-called leaders to address this trend.

They can emphasize development in the schools to discover new talent. They can devote a huge chunk of this tournament to arrange training for the present squad. They can also do fund raisers and seek corporate donations. At this stage, it doesn't require a whole lot of money to assemble these players. African teams can arrange more frequent tournaments and joint training programs. All that money used to acquire a foreign coach by Nigeria could have been put to better use.

There's no need to continue to attend these tournaments only to be humiliated and treated by the media with benignly low expectations.
Bell




The money used to acquire a foreign coach has nothing to do with it. We simply are not prepared to make the kind of investments necessary to move our game forward. Up until the last few months the NFF hardly gives our ladies a second thought. The women's league is a shambles, the age grade program is a mess, the government doesn't invest in the Women's game, Corporate bodies don't show enough interest and the grassroots development of the Women's game has a long way to go in Nigeria. Yet we show up at the World Cup and expect to compete with countries who actually allocate resources to Women's football.


The natural IQ levels of African women are too low to play intelligent soccer. They are too timid to compete at the world stage. Sorry to say this but that is what I have observed over the years, watching these women.


Did I stumble unto Stormfront? This is a comment worthy of the KKK.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:54 am 
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Bell wrote:
The poor performances by the female teams can no longer be ignored - Nigeria 0, Norway 3; SA 1, Spain 3 and Cameroon 0, Canada 1. These results have come to be expected of African teams. Two more matches each and they all will be evacuating their hotels. Economy is certainly a factor but it doesn't explain it all - where's the creativity in stretching available funds?

Africa was one of the first regions to embrace women soccer and at that time may be better than or equal to many of the countries in Europe and S. America. No more. Those regions have stepped up their game and Africa is beginning to take its traditional place behind the rest of the world. And in all this I've seen zero action taken by the so-called leaders to address this trend.

They can emphasize development in the schools to discover new talent. They can devote a huge chunk of this tournament to arrange training for the present squad. They can also do fund raisers and seek corporate donations. At this stage, it doesn't require a whole lot of money to assemble these players. African teams can arrange more frequent tournaments and joint training programs. All that money used to acquire a foreign coach by Nigeria could have been put to better use.

There's no need to continue to attend these tournaments only to be humiliated and treated by the media with benignly low expectations.
Bell

Nigeria has been the overwhelming dominant team in Africa and only once have we got out of the group stage of the world cup (in 1999). There has therefore never been a time when Africa was better than or equal to other continents in women's football.


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ahidjo2 wrote:
mystic wrote:
Bell wrote:
The poor performances by the female teams can no longer be ignored - Nigeria 0, Norway 3; SA 1, Spain 3 and Cameroon 0, Canada 1. These results have come to be expected of African teams. Two more matches each and they all will be evacuating their hotels. Economy is certainly a factor but it doesn't explain it all - where's the creativity in stretching available funds?

Africa was one of the first regions to embrace women soccer and at that time may be better than or equal to many of the countries in Europe and S. America. No more. Those regions have stepped up their game and Africa is beginning to take its traditional place behind the rest of the world. And in all this I've seen zero action taken by the so-called leaders to address this trend.

They can emphasize development in the schools to discover new talent. They can devote a huge chunk of this tournament to arrange training for the present squad. They can also do fund raisers and seek corporate donations. At this stage, it doesn't require a whole lot of money to assemble these players. African teams can arrange more frequent tournaments and joint training programs. All that money used to acquire a foreign coach by Nigeria could have been put to better use.

There's no need to continue to attend these tournaments only to be humiliated and treated by the media with benignly low expectations.
Bell




The money used to acquire a foreign coach has nothing to do with it. We simply are not prepared to make the kind of investments necessary to move our game forward. Up until the last few months the NFF hardly gives our ladies a second thought. The women's league is a shambles, the age grade program is a mess, the government doesn't invest in the Women's game, Corporate bodies don't show enough interest and the grassroots development of the Women's game has a long way to go in Nigeria. Yet we show up at the World Cup and expect to compete with countries who actually allocate resources to Women's football.

The natural IQ levels of African women are too low to play intelligent soccer. They are too timid to compete at the world stage. Sorry to say this but that is what I have observed over the years, watching these women.
Speak for yourself and the women you know.
If I were to put my response slightly differently, it would appear to be a personal insult but you have insulted the women already.
Can't believe you typed that comment when sober and with a straight face.

If you'd said similar about an ethnic group it'd be ethnic baiting. Sadly, 'gender baiting' and straight up sexism aren't on our list of crimes on CE, else you'd be toast.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:28 am 
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...African women don't train hard as their European counterparts. Even South Americans train better, good facilities, etc. The men are not supported properly how will they (the thieves at FA) throw money into women football.


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ahidjo2 wrote:
mystic wrote:
Bell wrote:
The poor performances by the female teams can no longer be ignored - Nigeria 0, Norway 3; SA 1, Spain 3 and Cameroon 0, Canada 1. These results have come to be expected of African teams. Two more matches each and they all will be evacuating their hotels. Economy is certainly a factor but it doesn't explain it all - where's the creativity in stretching available funds?

Africa was one of the first regions to embrace women soccer and at that time may be better than or equal to many of the countries in Europe and S. America. No more. Those regions have stepped up their game and Africa is beginning to take its traditional place behind the rest of the world. And in all this I've seen zero action taken by the so-called leaders to address this trend.

They can emphasize development in the schools to discover new talent. They can devote a huge chunk of this tournament to arrange training for the present squad. They can also do fund raisers and seek corporate donations. At this stage, it doesn't require a whole lot of money to assemble these players. African teams can arrange more frequent tournaments and joint training programs. All that money used to acquire a foreign coach by Nigeria could have been put to better use.

There's no need to continue to attend these tournaments only to be humiliated and treated by the media with benignly low expectations.
Bell




The money used to acquire a foreign coach has nothing to do with it. We simply are not prepared to make the kind of investments necessary to move our game forward. Up until the last few months the NFF hardly gives our ladies a second thought. The women's league is a shambles, the age grade program is a mess, the government doesn't invest in the Women's game, Corporate bodies don't show enough interest and the grassroots development of the Women's game has a long way to go in Nigeria. Yet we show up at the World Cup and expect to compete with countries who actually allocate resources to Women's football.


The natural IQ levels of African women are too low to play intelligent soccer. They are too timid to compete at the world stage. Sorry to say this but that is what I have observed over the years, watching these women.

Absolutely disgraceful comments. I guess you were not born of an African women

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anything which requires organization, Africa will always be found lacking! its that simple!

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ukwala wrote:
Bell wrote:
The poor performances by the female teams can no longer be ignored - Nigeria 0, Norway 3; SA 1, Spain 3 and Cameroon 0, Canada 1. These results have come to be expected of African teams. Two more matches each and they all will be evacuating their hotels. Economy is certainly a factor but it doesn't explain it all - where's the creativity in stretching available funds?

Africa was one of the first regions to embrace women soccer and at that time may be better than or equal to many of the countries in Europe and S. America. No more. Those regions have stepped up their game and Africa is beginning to take its traditional place behind the rest of the world. And in all this I've seen zero action taken by the so-called leaders to address this trend.

They can emphasize development in the schools to discover new talent. They can devote a huge chunk of this tournament to arrange training for the present squad. They can also do fund raisers and seek corporate donations. At this stage, it doesn't require a whole lot of money to assemble these players. African teams can arrange more frequent tournaments and joint training programs. All that money used to acquire a foreign coach by Nigeria could have been put to better use.

There's no need to continue to attend these tournaments only to be humiliated and treated by the media with benignly low expectations.
Bell

Nigeria has been the overwhelming dominant team in Africa and only once have we got out of the group stage of the world cup (in 1999). There has therefore never been a time when Africa was better than or equal to other continents in women's football.


THAT IS TRUE, BUT...


...in all the continents, there were teams that I thought would fall to the Falcons then that may now be better - Canada, Scotland, Spain, England, Italy, Mexico - were not much before, but are now highly regarded. Maybe the NFF will shift their approach to pursuing women from the diaspora, a strategy they are now perfecting with the men.
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Damunk wrote:
ahidjo2 wrote:
mystic wrote:
Bell wrote:
The poor performances by the female teams can no longer be ignored - Nigeria 0, Norway 3; SA 1, Spain 3 and Cameroon 0, Canada 1. These results have come to be expected of African teams. Two more matches each and they all will be evacuating their hotels. Economy is certainly a factor but it doesn't explain it all - where's the creativity in stretching available funds?

Africa was one of the first regions to embrace women soccer and at that time may be better than or equal to many of the countries in Europe and S. America. No more. Those regions have stepped up their game and Africa is beginning to take its traditional place behind the rest of the world. And in all this I've seen zero action taken by the so-called leaders to address this trend.

They can emphasize development in the schools to discover new talent. They can devote a huge chunk of this tournament to arrange training for the present squad. They can also do fund raisers and seek corporate donations. At this stage, it doesn't require a whole lot of money to assemble these players. African teams can arrange more frequent tournaments and joint training programs. All that money used to acquire a foreign coach by Nigeria could have been put to better use.

There's no need to continue to attend these tournaments only to be humiliated and treated by the media with benignly low expectations.
Bell




The money used to acquire a foreign coach has nothing to do with it. We simply are not prepared to make the kind of investments necessary to move our game forward. Up until the last few months the NFF hardly gives our ladies a second thought. The women's league is a shambles, the age grade program is a mess, the government doesn't invest in the Women's game, Corporate bodies don't show enough interest and the grassroots development of the Women's game has a long way to go in Nigeria. Yet we show up at the World Cup and expect to compete with countries who actually allocate resources to Women's football.

The natural IQ levels of African women are too low to play intelligent soccer. They are too timid to compete at the world stage. Sorry to say this but that is what I have observed over the years, watching these women.
Speak for yourself and the women you know.
If I were to put my response slightly differently, it would appear to be a personal insult but you have insulted the women already.
Can't believe you typed that comment when sober and with a straight face.

If you'd said similar about an ethnic group it'd be ethnic baiting. Sadly, 'gender baiting' and straight up sexism aren't on our list of crimes on CE, else you'd be toast.


Sorry sir and apologies to the African women that feel slighted by the comment. Didn't mean to denigrate all women or all endeavors. It is soccer specific-Soccer IQ level (especially of those born and raised in Africa), I meant. I did feel that nothing else explains the continued and consistent woeful performance of the African senior women's teams at the world stage. Checking the total number of goals conceded and defeats recorded by the African women since the inception of the world cup will destroy any myth about preparation and funding. Their (all African teams) decision making, for the most part, is terrible. As for timidity, no apologies-I even saw a Cameroonian player apologizing to the referee when she should be protesting an incorrect call...I gave up


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...organizational acumen we no get.
Even our players stationed abroad get tired of the shambolic nature and approaches.
But because of the allure to play for country, to travel, to get exposure, and may be to get the often promised bonuses/freebies, they show up.


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Bell wrote:
ukwala wrote:
Bell wrote:
The poor performances by the female teams can no longer be ignored - Nigeria 0, Norway 3; SA 1, Spain 3 and Cameroon 0, Canada 1. These results have come to be expected of African teams. Two more matches each and they all will be evacuating their hotels. Economy is certainly a factor but it doesn't explain it all - where's the creativity in stretching available funds?

Africa was one of the first regions to embrace women soccer and at that time may be better than or equal to many of the countries in Europe and S. America. No more. Those regions have stepped up their game and Africa is beginning to take its traditional place behind the rest of the world. And in all this I've seen zero action taken by the so-called leaders to address this trend.

They can emphasize development in the schools to discover new talent. They can devote a huge chunk of this tournament to arrange training for the present squad. They can also do fund raisers and seek corporate donations. At this stage, it doesn't require a whole lot of money to assemble these players. African teams can arrange more frequent tournaments and joint training programs. All that money used to acquire a foreign coach by Nigeria could have been put to better use.

There's no need to continue to attend these tournaments only to be humiliated and treated by the media with benignly low expectations.
Bell

Nigeria has been the overwhelming dominant team in Africa and only once have we got out of the group stage of the world cup (in 1999). There has therefore never been a time when Africa was better than or equal to other continents in women's football.


THAT IS TRUE, BUT...


...in all the continents, there were teams that I thought would fall to the Falcons then that may now be better - Canada, Scotland, Spain, England, Italy, Mexico - were not much before, but are now highly regarded. Maybe the NFF will shift their approach to pursuing women from the diaspora, a strategy they are now perfecting with the men.
Bell

That strategy may work in the short term but the long term strategy should be to develop the local league which is where the absolute majority of players are based.


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Bell wrote:
The poor performances by the female teams can no longer be ignored - Nigeria 0, Norway 3; SA 1, Spain 3 and Cameroon 0, Canada 1. These results have come to be expected of African teams. Two more matches each and they all will be evacuating their hotels. Economy is certainly a factor but it doesn't explain it all - where's the creativity in stretching available funds?

Africa was one of the first regions to embrace women soccer and at that time may be better than or equal to many of the countries in Europe and S. America. No more. Those regions have stepped up their game and Africa is beginning to take its traditional place behind the rest of the world. And in all this I've seen zero action taken by the so-called leaders to address this trend.

They can emphasize development in the schools to discover new talent. They can devote a huge chunk of this tournament to arrange training for the present squad. They can also do fund raisers and seek corporate donations. At this stage, it doesn't require a whole lot of money to assemble these players. African teams can arrange more frequent tournaments and joint training programs. All that money used to acquire a foreign coach by Nigeria could have been put to better use.

There's no need to continue to attend these tournaments only to be humiliated and treated by the media with benignly low expectations.
Bell


I totally agree with you.

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Organization! period! just like anything else, Africa is not known for its organization, why should its football be any different?

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