ESPN black reports discuss casual racism from CAM/ENG game
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They are not! Cameroon's behaviour is all that is being discussed. Ironically, these discussions were happening after Nigeria's games with France and Germany. Now, it is all about the "angry black women". The stereotype is not correct, but Cameroon's behaviour was wrong as well.goke313 wrote:I wonder if these discussions are happening in England
Bell wrote:WELL, TO THOSE POSTING HERE AND TRYING TO LAY THE BLAME ON THE CAM GIRLS...
...you can see how the reaction of the ESPN panel closely aligns with what some of us have been saying. And I mostly ignore Neville until now but it's his comments that are shameful. It didn't seem to matter to him that the refs were helping his in a match they could have won on their own. As for the alleged refusal by the girls to resume play, I thought they were just trying to regroup after frequent visits by the refs to the screen. It's also alleged that a Cam player spit on an English girl. I didn't see that but unless there's an extenuating circumstance that deserves severe punishment.
Bell
Cameroon face inquiry and possible action after England defeat
Simon Evans
3 MIN READ
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-socc ... um=partner
(Reuters) - Cameroon face an inquiry and possible disciplinary action from soccer authorities after a 3-0 loss to England in the last 16 of the women’s World Cup on Sunday when they reacted furiously to two VAR decisions, initially refusing to restart the game.
After England’s second goal was ruled offside then allowed after a VAR review, several Cameroon players remonstrated with the referee and for a long time refused to restart the match.
They thought they had pulled a goal back early in the second half, only for VAR to again rule against them for a marginal offside - sparking more chaotic scenes.
The ill-tempered contest, which involved strong challenges throughout and an horrific tackle on England’s Steph Houghton, also saw an incident where Cameroon defender Augustine Ejangue spat on the arm of England forward Toni Duggan.
A spokesperson for soccer’s world governing body said on Monday: “FIFA is currently looking into the matter at this stage”.
FIFA’s disciplinary body is likely to examine some of the incidents as part of its routine review of matches, while Isha Johansen, chair of the women’s football committee for the African Football Confederation (CAF), said her body will open an inquiry.
“Whilst remaining proud of our African teams that participated in the FIFA Women’s World Cup, yesterday’s match between England and Cameroon reflected badly, not only on African women’s football but African football on the whole,” said Johansen, who is also president of the Sierra Leone FA.
“It is an issue which will be addressed and dealt with at the appropriate levels of governance,” she added in a statement.
England manager Phil Neville has heavily criticized the behavior of his side’s opponents.
“I am completely and utterly ashamed of the opposition,” said the former Manchester United player.
Enugu II wrote:Bell wrote:WELL, TO THOSE POSTING HERE AND TRYING TO LAY THE BLAME ON THE CAM GIRLS...
...you can see how the reaction of the ESPN panel closely aligns with what some of us have been saying. And I mostly ignore Neville until now but it's his comments that are shameful. It didn't seem to matter to him that the refs were helping his in a match they could have won on their own. As for the alleged refusal by the girls to resume play, I thought they were just trying to regroup after frequent visits by the refs to the screen. It's also alleged that a Cam player spit on an English girl. I didn't see that but unless there's an extenuating circumstance that deserves severe punishment.
Bell
Bell,
I love the ESPN angle but see what CAF is threatening to do to the Cameroon team. Read on Isha Johansen's views. I think CAF needs to be a bit cautious because this is more complex than it appears on the surface.
Cameroon face inquiry and possible action after England defeat
Simon Evans
3 MIN READ
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-socc ... um=partner
(Reuters) - Cameroon face an inquiry and possible disciplinary action from soccer authorities after a 3-0 loss to England in the last 16 of the women’s World Cup on Sunday when they reacted furiously to two VAR decisions, initially refusing to restart the game.
After England’s second goal was ruled offside then allowed after a VAR review, several Cameroon players remonstrated with the referee and for a long time refused to restart the match.
They thought they had pulled a goal back early in the second half, only for VAR to again rule against them for a marginal offside - sparking more chaotic scenes.
The ill-tempered contest, which involved strong challenges throughout and an horrific tackle on England’s Steph Houghton, also saw an incident where Cameroon defender Augustine Ejangue spat on the arm of England forward Toni Duggan.
A spokesperson for soccer’s world governing body said on Monday: “FIFA is currently looking into the matter at this stage”.
FIFA’s disciplinary body is likely to examine some of the incidents as part of its routine review of matches, while Isha Johansen, chair of the women’s football committee for the African Football Confederation (CAF), said her body will open an inquiry.
“Whilst remaining proud of our African teams that participated in the FIFA Women’s World Cup, yesterday’s match between England and Cameroon reflected badly, not only on African women’s football but African football on the whole,” said Johansen, who is also president of the Sierra Leone FA.
“It is an issue which will be addressed and dealt with at the appropriate levels of governance,” she added in a statement.
England manager Phil Neville has heavily criticized the behavior of his side’s opponents.
“I am completely and utterly ashamed of the opposition,” said the former Manchester United player.
WELL...Enugu II wrote:Bell wrote:WELL, TO THOSE POSTING HERE AND TRYING TO LAY THE BLAME ON THE CAM GIRLS...
...you can see how the reaction of the ESPN panel closely aligns with what some of us have been saying. And I mostly ignore Neville until now but it's his comments that are shameful. It didn't seem to matter to him that the refs were helping his in a match they could have won on their own. As for the alleged refusal by the girls to resume play, I thought they were just trying to regroup after frequent visits by the refs to the screen. It's also alleged that a Cam player spit on an English girl. I didn't see that but unless there's an extenuating circumstance that deserves severe punishment.
Bell
Bell,
I love the ESPN angle but see what CAF is threatening to do to the Cameroon team. Read on Isha Johansen's views. I think CAF needs to be a bit cautious because this is more complex than it appears on the surface.
Cameroon face inquiry and possible action after England defeat
Simon Evans
3 MIN READ
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-socc ... um=partner
(Reuters) - Cameroon face an inquiry and possible disciplinary action from soccer authorities after a 3-0 loss to England in the last 16 of the women’s World Cup on Sunday when they reacted furiously to two VAR decisions, initially refusing to restart the game.
After England’s second goal was ruled offside then allowed after a VAR review, several Cameroon players remonstrated with the referee and for a long time refused to restart the match.
They thought they had pulled a goal back early in the second half, only for VAR to again rule against them for a marginal offside - sparking more chaotic scenes.
The ill-tempered contest, which involved strong challenges throughout and an horrific tackle on England’s Steph Houghton, also saw an incident where Cameroon defender Augustine Ejangue spat on the arm of England forward Toni Duggan.
A spokesperson for soccer’s world governing body said on Monday: “FIFA is currently looking into the matter at this stage”.
FIFA’s disciplinary body is likely to examine some of the incidents as part of its routine review of matches, while Isha Johansen, chair of the women’s football committee for the African Football Confederation (CAF), said her body will open an inquiry.
“Whilst remaining proud of our African teams that participated in the FIFA Women’s World Cup, yesterday’s match between England and Cameroon reflected badly, not only on African women’s football but African football on the whole,” said Johansen, who is also president of the Sierra Leone FA.
“It is an issue which will be addressed and dealt with at the appropriate levels of governance,” she added in a statement.
England manager Phil Neville has heavily criticized the behavior of his side’s opponents.
“I am completely and utterly ashamed of the opposition,” said the former Manchester United player.
Bell,Bell wrote:Y'ALL SAW WHAT ITALY GOT AWAY WITH vs CHINA?
In the 25th minute of the match, an Italian defender raised her boot to head level and made contact with the head of a Chinese attacker. After a VAR review the ref declared it a nothing burger.
I can't say with certainty how all of the refs in this WC would have called it if it were an African player but I think it was far worse than the blank kick which resulted in a PK against Nigeria and (what was the other team?). Some of you may have seen it but you may want to check it out if you didn't. In my humble opinion, it was a horrible non-call. Missing also was the kind of unfavorable comments by the commentators which you would have heard had the perpetrator been an African player. This is why I can understand the frustration of the Cameroon girls with calls going against them in lopsided proportions.
The greatest crime in all of this is if African FA chiefs fail to bring this to the attention of FIFA while at the same time upgrading the women's game in Africa.
Bell
I also saw the cameroon player stamp on the English girl foot, blatant sending off offence, yet the ref allowed play to go on! even the spitting episode as well, where do we draw the line?Bell wrote:Y'ALL SAW WHAT ITALY GOT AWAY WITH vs CHINA?
In the 25th minute of the match, an Italian defender raised her boot to head level and made contact with the head of a Chinese attacker. After a VAR review the ref declared it a nothing burger.
I can't say with certainty how all of the refs in this WC would have called it if it were an African player but I think it was far worse than the blank kick which resulted in a PK against Nigeria and (what was the other team?). Some of you may have seen it but you may want to check it out if you didn't. In my humble opinion, it was a horrible non-call. Missing also was the kind of unfavorable comments by the commentators which you would have heard had the perpetrator been an African player. This is why I can understand the frustration of the Cameroon girls with calls going against them in lopsided proportions.
The greatest crime in all of this is if African FA chiefs fail to bring this to the attention of FIFA while at the same time upgrading the women's game in Africa.
Bell
goke313 wrote:I stopped posting as much because of the weirdness casual “——ism” from folks and the excuses when it happens...they know who they are
It is even worse to become a victim of the world against us mentality! nations have risen up in the face of tyranny, self sufficient is the key, we as African people needs to rise above what you just mentioned, for sponsors and what not, yes for big sponsors, they will prefer if one of their won win these big tournaments but that does not mean we should resign, I saw a few games involving our ladies, yes VAR was crap! our football was not good to say the least, that must be added as well, CAF will always sell out, they are nearly bankrupt as we speak! we need to tidy up our own house, put it in order, CAF needs to be more dominant and demand fair playhangingfire wrote:goke313 wrote:I stopped posting as much because of the weirdness casual “——ism” from folks and the excuses when it happens...they know who they are
The problem with the Black race is that we are our own worst enemies. We hate each other. For a long time, VAR has been used as another tool of neocolonialism against lesser developed nations, just as the UN, economic sanctions, immigration policies, the international monetary fund (IMF), and the entities called civilized nations of the world and the so called first world nations have been used to suppress the competitive edge of such countries who represent the so called less advantaged nations. Other glaring tools of neocolonialism out there are the EU, NATO and the KKK. They all look alike and sound alike.
To the doubters, go take another look at the Nigeria versus Norway game. Before the referee commenced her antics of suppression against Nigeria, it was obvious that the Nigerian girls had the Norwegians by the jugular. Twice, their goalkeeper collided with her own player in her box without any Nigerian player interference and the referee whistled against the Nigerians to deny them good goal scoring opportunities. I don't know how many of us played football even at the amateur level. However, when it dawns on any player that the referee was all out to make your opponent win at all cost, your morale tend to web and you become highly fallible. It is the same with any human interaction.
That referee was obviously the worst that I have ever seen and she succeeded to kill the spirit of the Flacons in the game against Norway. Also, the commentary at Fox TV was so biased that one tend to wonder whether the commentators were watching the same match. At a stage, even the French fans began booing the calls of the referee. Have you guys even taken into consideration the nationality of that referee and what might be driving her attitude? Also, she never for once, reviewed VAR against Norway. Not even a single occurrence of that happened with during her officiating. Also, the game of Nigeria versus France did not see one instance of VAR review against France. If you also watched the second half of that game more closely, you might tend to think that someone in FIFA got through to the referee of that game at half time to corruptly amend her officiating because the referee that showed up in the second half was not the same referee that officiated the first match. Ditto the games involving all African teams and some second world nations.
I have since lost interest in the FIFA Women's world cup because I feel that FIFA has rigged the tournament to have a USA versus Norway or an all Caucasian final and they are using VAR to achieve it in front of the whole world. This tournament should be investigated by higher authorities for betting sham. Guess what? It will never be because the so called higher authorities are the ones rigging it. It is unfortunate that It appears to a lot of folks that FIFA is the very organ that is pulling the strings here. To me, VAR is a notorious tool that is being used to suppress lesser advantageous teams for political and economical gains by FIFA. Now, Infantino is also encroaching to directly control CAF. Why did he not do that to EUFA, against the corruption charges levelled against Michel Platina? The annoying thing is that the crooks at CAF are so foolish that they have allowed themselves to be divided by FIFA and have become a mockery of the world. Also, the recent rules rolled out on June 1 seem to me as if they have been modelled to work with VAR to suppress designated areas of the world. Call it conspiracy theory if you like but I don't care. I have seen a lot of injustice in my lifetime to make me care about the sentiments of a brain washed human being who thinks that the person oppressing and suppressing him is some kind of a tin god molten out of a rotting cabbage. Shame to that human being.
Lol. Change the VAR madness and inconsistency? Of course and it’s convenient that you’d now arrive at this conclusion after all the African teams have been eliminated. Not too long ago you were singing a totally different song laying all blame on the Africans.marko wrote:I dont think the girls should be punished for that incident, it is likely to do more harm than good, maybe some caution, thats all needed at this point, most important they need to fix that VAR madness! it is not consistent!
go read my posts right from day 1, i have stated VAR is not consistent! African teams are out because we are not good enough at this level! we have to be honest with ourselves and stop playing the blame game, i watched the games as well, Nigeria could not pass the ball to save their lives! VAR is one thing, playing well is another thing, sorry African football is still in its growing infancy, individually, we have world class footballers, as a team, nope we do not, i for one choose not to be a victim, each to their own!green4life wrote:Lol. Change the VAR madness and inconsistency? Of course and it’s convenient that you’d now arrive at this conclusion after all the African teams have been eliminated. Not too long ago you were singing a totally different song laying all blame on the Africans.marko wrote:I dont think the girls should be punished for that incident, it is likely to do more harm than good, maybe some caution, thats all needed at this point, most important they need to fix that VAR madness! it is not consistent!