Re: CHELSEA FOOTBALL CLUB 2019/2020 SEASON THREAD
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:25 am
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If you watch Chelsea regular season games you’d know culminating with his performance against Grimbsy FC. You are aware that he started some games and came off the bench in others prior to being left out entirely?kolinzo wrote:The American (Pulisic) was on point today. Why was he benched to start the season?
‘It’s nice to be above City, because I’ve got huge respect for them,’ Lampard said ahead of their drubbing against Liverpool at Anfield. ‘What a team. But I certainly won’t announce ourselves in a title race because we are relatively new, because we are in transition with younger players.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -talk.html‘I don’t see beyond the next game,’ Lampard said. Fair enough, though next up for his young lads is a trip to the Etihad Stadium to face Manchester City. So we ask again: are you in a title race? No, says a smiling Lampard, who does not want to commit his kids, as good as they are, to such a challenge.
The two situations aren't comparable. Lampard is a rookie manager in the EPL. He lost his best player (Hazard) and couldn't replace him due to transfer ban. Also, due to said ban, he's had to rely on a lot of young inexperienced players. Lastly, some of his key experienced players have been pretty much injured this season so far (Kante, Rudiger, RLC - Emerson just returned a week ago). The reality is this is a team that is punching above their weight coupled with the other contenders for top 4 falling apart. If you end up in a title chase, it's jara on top. Let's not lose sight of reality.metalalloy wrote:Hmm for Chelsea fans who have have been critical in the past when it comes to Naija, how is this different from Rohr's similar comments?
‘It’s nice to be above City, because I’ve got huge respect for them,’ Lampard said ahead of their drubbing against Liverpool at Anfield. ‘What a team. But I certainly won’t announce ourselves in a title race because we are relatively new, because we are in transition with younger players.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -talk.html‘I don’t see beyond the next game,’ Lampard said. Fair enough, though next up for his young lads is a trip to the Etihad Stadium to face Manchester City. So we ask again: are you in a title race? No, says a smiling Lampard, who does not want to commit his kids, as good as they are, to such a challenge.
end of discussion G4L is on fire todaygreen4life wrote:The two situations aren't comparable. Lampard is a rookie manager in the EPL. He lost his best player (Hazard) and couldn't replace him due to transfer ban. Also, due to said ban, he's had to rely on a lot of young inexperienced players. Lastly, some of his key experienced players have been pretty much injured this season so far (Kante, Rudiger, RLC - Emerson just returned a week ago). The reality is this is a team that is punching above their weight coupled with the other contenders for top 4 falling apart. If you end up in a title chase, it's jara on top. Let's not lose sight of reality.metalalloy wrote:Hmm for Chelsea fans who have have been critical in the past when it comes to Naija, how is this different from Rohr's similar comments?
‘It’s nice to be above City, because I’ve got huge respect for them,’ Lampard said ahead of their drubbing against Liverpool at Anfield. ‘What a team. But I certainly won’t announce ourselves in a title race because we are relatively new, because we are in transition with younger players.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -talk.html‘I don’t see beyond the next game,’ Lampard said. Fair enough, though next up for his young lads is a trip to the Etihad Stadium to face Manchester City. So we ask again: are you in a title race? No, says a smiling Lampard, who does not want to commit his kids, as good as they are, to such a challenge.
The SE's on the other hand have an experienced manager who has been in place for years and already been through qualifiers and tournaments, yet he's still talking about young players and 'playing to learn'. Night and day difference.
Is it really? The comments Rohr was pilloried from were made at the world cup where Nigeria paraded the youngest team in the tournament, many of whom were making their first tournament debut, where he was forced to start an 18 year old division 3 goal keeper! His leading gk was diagnosed with lukemia, one of his key players (Moses Simon) was equally hurt leading to an imbalance in the team. And this is under the setting of a national team set up where you have, at most a month of camping before the tournament, vs Lampard who had an entire summer to prep his team for the suspensions he was well aware of, and has his team with him every single day in practice. Even after the world cup, Nigeria continues to undergo a transition period with the team captain (and arguably the most important player of the past decade) Mikel retiring along, with another long serving player and top goal scorer in Ighalo.green4life wrote:The two situations aren't comparable. Lampard is a rookie manager in the EPL. He lost his best player (Hazard) and couldn't replace him due to transfer ban. Also, due to said ban, he's had to rely on a lot of young inexperienced players. Lastly, some of his key experienced players have been pretty much injured this season so far (Kante, Rudiger, RLC - Emerson just returned a week ago). The reality is this is a team that is punching above their weight coupled with the other contenders for top 4 falling apart. If you end up in a title chase, it's jara on top. Let's not lose sight of reality.metalalloy wrote:Hmm for Chelsea fans who have have been critical in the past when it comes to Naija, how is this different from Rohr's similar comments?
‘It’s nice to be above City, because I’ve got huge respect for them,’ Lampard said ahead of their drubbing against Liverpool at Anfield. ‘What a team. But I certainly won’t announce ourselves in a title race because we are relatively new, because we are in transition with younger players.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -talk.html‘I don’t see beyond the next game,’ Lampard said. Fair enough, though next up for his young lads is a trip to the Etihad Stadium to face Manchester City. So we ask again: are you in a title race? No, says a smiling Lampard, who does not want to commit his kids, as good as they are, to such a challenge.
The SE's on the other hand have an experienced manager who has been in place for years and already been through qualifiers and tournaments, yet he's still talking about young players and 'playing to learn'. Night and day difference.
The problem with your response is Rohr is an experienced manager and has continually made the same comments after the WC even leading up to and during the ANC. And as he adds more new players, he will keep saying the same thing. The difference is clear. Lampard as a manager is a baby. He deserves to be cut some slack. That much is obvious to a blind person.metalalloy wrote:Is it really? The comments Rohr was pilloried from were made at the world cup where Nigeria paraded the youngest team in the tournament, many of whom were making their first tournament debut, where he was forced to start an 18 year old division 3 goal keeper! His leading gk was diagnosed with lukemia, one of his key players (Moses Simon) was equally hurt leading to an imbalance in the team. And this is under the setting of a national team set up where you have, at most a month of camping before the tournament, vs Lampard who had an entire summer to prep his team for the suspensions he was well aware of, and has his team with him every single day in practice. Even after the world cup, Nigeria continues to undergo a transition period with the team captain (and arguably the most important player of the past decade) Mikel retiring along, with another long serving player and top goal scorer in Ighalo.green4life wrote:The two situations aren't comparable. Lampard is a rookie manager in the EPL. He lost his best player (Hazard) and couldn't replace him due to transfer ban. Also, due to said ban, he's had to rely on a lot of young inexperienced players. Lastly, some of his key experienced players have been pretty much injured this season so far (Kante, Rudiger, RLC - Emerson just returned a week ago). The reality is this is a team that is punching above their weight coupled with the other contenders for top 4 falling apart. If you end up in a title chase, it's jara on top. Let's not lose sight of reality.metalalloy wrote:Hmm for Chelsea fans who have have been critical in the past when it comes to Naija, how is this different from Rohr's similar comments?
‘It’s nice to be above City, because I’ve got huge respect for them,’ Lampard said ahead of their drubbing against Liverpool at Anfield. ‘What a team. But I certainly won’t announce ourselves in a title race because we are relatively new, because we are in transition with younger players.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -talk.html‘I don’t see beyond the next game,’ Lampard said. Fair enough, though next up for his young lads is a trip to the Etihad Stadium to face Manchester City. So we ask again: are you in a title race? No, says a smiling Lampard, who does not want to commit his kids, as good as they are, to such a challenge.
The SE's on the other hand have an experienced manager who has been in place for years and already been through qualifiers and tournaments, yet he's still talking about young players and 'playing to learn'. Night and day difference.
The truth is that both of them are/were right in asserting that expectations should be realistic considering the circumstances that they face.
The problem with YOUR reponse is that you imply that Lampard's comments were made because of his inexperience. What has manager's experience got to do with any of this?green4life wrote:metalalloy wrote:Is it really? The comments Rohr was pilloried from were made at the world cup where Nigeria paraded the youngest team in the tournament, many of whom were making their first tournament debut, where he was forced to start an 18 year old division 3 goal keeper! His leading gk was diagnosed with lukemia, one of his key players (Moses Simon) was equally hurt leading to an imbalance in the team. And this is under the setting of a national team set up where you have, at most a month of camping before the tournament, vs Lampard who had an entire summer to prep his team for the suspensions he was well aware of, and has his team with him every single day in practice. Even after the world cup, Nigeria continues to undergo a transition period with the team captain (and arguably the most important player of the past decade) Mikel retiring along, with another long serving player and top goal scorer in Ighalo.green4life wrote:The two situations aren't comparable. Lampard is a rookie manager in the EPL. He lost his best player (Hazard) and couldn't replace him due to transfer ban. Also, due to said ban, he's had to rely on a lot of young inexperienced players. Lastly, some of his key experienced players have been pretty much injured this season so far (Kante, Rudiger, RLC - Emerson just returned a week ago). The reality is this is a team that is punching above their weight coupled with the other contenders for top 4 falling apart. If you end up in a title chase, it's jara on top. Let's not lose sight of reality.metalalloy wrote:Hmm for Chelsea fans who have have been critical in the past when it comes to Naija, how is this different from Rohr's similar comments?
‘It’s nice to be above City, because I’ve got huge respect for them,’ Lampard said ahead of their drubbing against Liverpool at Anfield. ‘What a team. But I certainly won’t announce ourselves in a title race because we are relatively new, because we are in transition with younger players.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -talk.html‘I don’t see beyond the next game,’ Lampard said. Fair enough, though next up for his young lads is a trip to the Etihad Stadium to face Manchester City. So we ask again: are you in a title race? No, says a smiling Lampard, who does not want to commit his kids, as good as they are, to such a challenge.
The SE's on the other hand have an experienced manager who has been in place for years and already been through qualifiers and tournaments, yet he's still talking about young players and 'playing to learn'. Night and day difference.
The truth is that both of them are/were right in asserting that expectations should be realistic considering the circumstances that they face.
The problem with your response is Rohr is an experienced manager and has continually made the same comments after the WC even leading up to and during the ANC. And as he adds more new players, he will keep saying the same thing. The difference is clear. Lampard as a manager is a baby. He deserves to be cut some slack. That much is obvious to a blind person.
You people too like to chop and paste to suit your agenda.“City look like the best team in the world, that’s how it is,” said Klopp. “Barcelona struggled a little bit but still did the job. Juve look pretty impressive in Italy. With City, those are the three big Champions League favourites and you think, OK, City look a bit more stable than all of them.''
- Liverpool Manager Klopp, on his team's chances in the 2019 Champions League
What's this nonsense? Abeg carry go.Damunk wrote:The problem with YOUR reponse is that you imply that Lampard's comments were made because of his inexperience. What has manager's experience got to do with any of this?green4life wrote:metalalloy wrote:Is it really? The comments Rohr was pilloried from were made at the world cup where Nigeria paraded the youngest team in the tournament, many of whom were making their first tournament debut, where he was forced to start an 18 year old division 3 goal keeper! His leading gk was diagnosed with lukemia, one of his key players (Moses Simon) was equally hurt leading to an imbalance in the team. And this is under the setting of a national team set up where you have, at most a month of camping before the tournament, vs Lampard who had an entire summer to prep his team for the suspensions he was well aware of, and has his team with him every single day in practice. Even after the world cup, Nigeria continues to undergo a transition period with the team captain (and arguably the most important player of the past decade) Mikel retiring along, with another long serving player and top goal scorer in Ighalo.green4life wrote:The two situations aren't comparable. Lampard is a rookie manager in the EPL. He lost his best player (Hazard) and couldn't replace him due to transfer ban. Also, due to said ban, he's had to rely on a lot of young inexperienced players. Lastly, some of his key experienced players have been pretty much injured this season so far (Kante, Rudiger, RLC - Emerson just returned a week ago). The reality is this is a team that is punching above their weight coupled with the other contenders for top 4 falling apart. If you end up in a title chase, it's jara on top. Let's not lose sight of reality.metalalloy wrote:Hmm for Chelsea fans who have have been critical in the past when it comes to Naija, how is this different from Rohr's similar comments?
‘It’s nice to be above City, because I’ve got huge respect for them,’ Lampard said ahead of their drubbing against Liverpool at Anfield. ‘What a team. But I certainly won’t announce ourselves in a title race because we are relatively new, because we are in transition with younger players.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -talk.html‘I don’t see beyond the next game,’ Lampard said. Fair enough, though next up for his young lads is a trip to the Etihad Stadium to face Manchester City. So we ask again: are you in a title race? No, says a smiling Lampard, who does not want to commit his kids, as good as they are, to such a challenge.
The SE's on the other hand have an experienced manager who has been in place for years and already been through qualifiers and tournaments, yet he's still talking about young players and 'playing to learn'. Night and day difference.
The truth is that both of them are/were right in asserting that expectations should be realistic considering the circumstances that they face.
The problem with your response is Rohr is an experienced manager and has continually made the same comments after the WC even leading up to and during the ANC. And as he adds more new players, he will keep saying the same thing. The difference is clear. Lampard as a manager is a baby. He deserves to be cut some slack. That much is obvious to a blind person.
So what about Klopp?
Is he inexperienced too?
You people too like to chop and paste to suit your agenda.“City look like the best team in the world, that’s how it is,” said Klopp. “Barcelona struggled a little bit but still did the job. Juve look pretty impressive in Italy. With City, those are the three big Champions League favourites and you think, OK, City look a bit more stable than all of them.''
- Liverpool Manager Klopp, on his team's chances in the 2019 Champions League
And you quietly avoided directly addressing metalalloy's excellent and very specific points. Lampard's "inexperience" is nowhere near a counterargument.
But issalright.