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Did you all witness how the SA (left?) back handled Egyptian Mo Salah, the terror to EPL and European defenses? Mo has shown a great ability to score in Europe and the numbers put it beyond debate. But in that Salah is not the kind of player who can take on and beat a defender one on one I've often wondered why defenses didn't have much luck against him using a speedy and physical (not dirty) approach against him.

Against SA in this 2019 Nations Cup, the SA defender succeeded in keeping Salah under control making him unlike the man who had tormented European defenses. The defender SA sent to him was burly and fast. He had no problem catching up with Salah and dispossessing him over and over again. Salah had little impact on the match and Trezeuget (sp) was Egypt's most potent attacker. Maybe some EPL team should just sign the defender up. *With Egypt, look for the stadiums to be even more empty)
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Did you all witness how the SA (left?) back handled Egyptian Mo Salah, the terror to EPL and European defenses? Mo has shown a great ability to score in Europe and the numbers put it beyond debate. But in that Salah is not the kind of player who can take on and beat a defender one on one I've often wondered why defenses didn't have much luck against him using a speedy and physical (not dirty) approach against him.

Against SA in this 2019 Nations Cup, the SA defender succeeded in keeping Salah under control making him unlike the man who had tormented European defenses. The defender SA sent to him was burly and fast. He had no problem catching up with Salah and dispossessing him over and over again. Salah had little impact on the match and Trezeuget (sp) was Egypt's most potent attacker. Maybe some EPL team should just sign the defender up. *With Egypt, look for the stadiums to be even more empty)
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Stop the page decoration Salah did not get ball or help from his impotence team. For entire 90 minutes Egypt as host nation did nothing. It was a matter of what Egypt didn’t do than what SA did. If you are a good game reader then you saw this with all the games egypt won. They got lucky goals and looked like a pick up team

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Did you all witness how the SA (left?) back handled Egyptian Mo Salah, the terror to EPL and European defenses? Mo has shown a great ability to score in Europe and the numbers put it beyond debate. But in that Salah is not the kind of player who can take on and beat a defender one on one I've often wondered why defenses didn't have much luck against him using a speedy and physical (not dirty) approach against him.

Against SA in this 2019 Nations Cup, the SA defender succeeded in keeping Salah under control making him unlike the man who had tormented European defenses. The defender SA sent to him was burly and fast. He had no problem catching up with Salah and dispossessing him over and over again. Salah had little impact on the match and Trezeuget (sp) was Egypt's most potent attacker. Maybe some EPL team should just sign the defender up. *With Egypt, look for the stadiums to be even more empty)
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Stop the page decoration Salah did not get ball or help from his impotence team

Keep quiet, did you even watch the game? Bell is 100% correct. Salah tried several times to beat the left back in a foot race and failed. The commentator on BeIN Sports even suggested that Salah should go to the left since he was having no joy with that left back.

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Did you all witness how the SA (left?) back handled Egyptian Mo Salah, the terror to EPL and European defenses? Mo has shown a great ability to score in Europe and the numbers put it beyond debate. But in that Salah is not the kind of player who can take on and beat a defender one on one I've often wondered why defenses didn't have much luck against him using a speedy and physical (not dirty) approach against him.

Against SA in this 2019 Nations Cup, the SA defender succeeded in keeping Salah under control making him unlike the man who had tormented European defenses. The defender SA sent to him was burly and fast. He had no problem catching up with Salah and dispossessing him over and over again. Salah had little impact on the match and Trezeuget (sp) was Egypt's most potent attacker. Maybe some EPL team should just sign the defender up. *With Egypt, look for the stadiums to be even more empty)
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Stop the page decoration Salah did not get ball or help from his impotence team

Keep quiet, did you even watch the game? Bell is 100% correct. Salah tried several times to beat the left back in a foot race and failed. The commentator on BeIN Sports even suggested that Salah should go to the left since he was having no joy with that left back.

Shouldn’t you be at R&R

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You have a lot more people to worry about at Liverpool than just salah compared to Egypt.

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You have a lot more people to worry about at Liverpool than just salah compared to Egypt.


More importantly, the MF play is light years away.

In any case, all Trezguet had to do was finish the chances Salah created for him...

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ohsee wrote:
jette1 wrote:
Bell wrote:
Did you all witness how the SA (left?) back handled Egyptian Mo Salah, the terror to EPL and European defenses? Mo has shown a great ability to score in Europe and the numbers put it beyond debate. But in that Salah is not the kind of player who can take on and beat a defender one on one I've often wondered why defenses didn't have much luck against him using a speedy and physical (not dirty) approach against him.

Against SA in this 2019 Nations Cup, the SA defender succeeded in keeping Salah under control making him unlike the man who had tormented European defenses. The defender SA sent to him was burly and fast. He had no problem catching up with Salah and dispossessing him over and over again. Salah had little impact on the match and Trezeuget (sp) was Egypt's most potent attacker. Maybe some EPL team should just sign the defender up. *With Egypt, look for the stadiums to be even more empty)
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Stop the page decoration Salah did not get ball or help from his impotence team

Keep quiet, did you even watch the game? Bell is 100% correct. Salah tried several times to beat the left back in a foot race and failed. The commentator on BeIN Sports even suggested that Salah should go to the left since he was having no joy with that left back.


I RECALL THAT AND...


...I was saying that the defender should switch to rt back if Salah did. But then, even as a left-footed player. Salah may be less effective there because he'd be reduced to running down the sidelines and crossing, because I doubt he'd be able to cut in where he does much of his damage.
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metalalloy wrote:
You have a lot more people to worry about at Liverpool than just salah compared to Egypt.



THERE ARE WAYS TO DEAL WITH THE QUALITY AT LIVERPOOL


One way is to disrupt the MF to deprive Salah of quality support. The other way is to dedicate a defender (such as this SA defender) to Salah once he gets close danger area. The man has no doubt established his quality in Europe, and this is not to question his ability, but if he was an unknown playing in this tournament, I'm not sure scouts would recommend him highly. He hardly stood out to me. By comparison, a player like Ola Aina on the other hand is clearly showing his ability and is probably being seen by SE fans as one who could own that LB position for a long time.
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Salah was sick.

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Salah was sick.

True, he wasn't 100%. Anyone who has tried playing football with a cold would appreciate the effect of the cold virus on physical performance. He must have suffered in that heat to produce a perfect performance.

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jette1 wrote:
ohsee wrote:
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Did you all witness how the SA (left?) back handled Egyptian Mo Salah, the terror to EPL and European defenses? Mo has shown a great ability to score in Europe and the numbers put it beyond debate. But in that Salah is not the kind of player who can take on and beat a defender one on one I've often wondered why defenses didn't have much luck against him using a speedy and physical (not dirty) approach against him.

Against SA in this 2019 Nations Cup, the SA defender succeeded in keeping Salah under control making him unlike the man who had tormented European defenses. The defender SA sent to him was burly and fast. He had no problem catching up with Salah and dispossessing him over and over again. Salah had little impact on the match and Trezeuget (sp) was Egypt's most potent attacker. Maybe some EPL team should just sign the defender up. *With Egypt, look for the stadiums to be even more empty)
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Stop the page decoration Salah did not get ball or help from his impotence team

Keep quiet, did you even watch the game? Bell is 100% correct. Salah tried several times to beat the left back in a foot race and failed. The commentator on BeIN Sports even suggested that Salah should go to the left since he was having no joy with that left back.

Shouldn’t you be at R&R





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metalalloy wrote:
You have a lot more people to worry about at Liverpool than just salah compared to Egypt.


This one is very true.
You have Sadio Mane and Firmino who are a constant nuisance even if you cut out Salah, no surprise Salah went half a season out of form and still it was nothing to Liverpool.

And then again, this is not the first time someone has kept Salah quiet, i remember United fans raving about how Ashley Young kept Salah quiet, but in the bigger scheme of things it was nothing worth celebrating.

The team tactics are more important i think,


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This is a faulty conclusion. Salah did not score or shine in every game he played for Liverpool. This is like looking at one of those games he did not score in and say the liverpool system is deficient. SA played well in that game, but I bet if they play each other multiple times, Egypt and Salah will win most.

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This is a faulty conclusion. Salah did not score or shine in every game he played for Liverpool. This is like looking at one of those games he did not score in and say the liverpool system is deficient. SA played well in that game, but I bet if they play each other multiple times, Egypt and Salah will win most.


i bet if you play alabama multiple times you will win, oh wait.

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This is a faulty conclusion. Salah did not score or shine in every game he played for Liverpool. This is like looking at one of those games he did not score in and say the liverpool system is deficient. SA played well in that game, but I bet if they play each other multiple times, Egypt and Salah will win most.


i bet if you play alabama multiple times you will win, oh wait.


:mad: :mad: :veryangry: :veryangry:

Without referee interference....

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1naija wrote:
This is a faulty conclusion. Salah did not score or shine in every game he played for Liverpool. This is like looking at one of those games he did not score in and say the liverpool system is deficient. SA played well in that game, but I bet if they play each other multiple times, Egypt and Salah will win most.



IT'S NOT THE LACK OF SCORING; IT'S THAT...


…he did not do anything to suggest to a non-EPL observer that he's the same person so feared by EPL defenses. Unless, as some have suggested, he had a cold.

To those telling us he didn't come into the tournament with his Liverpool M/F posse, be advised that he wasn't going against Chelsea-caliber defenders either, A world class player which he is should easily make himself known and I'm sure Egypt fans expected more.
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Playing for club is totally different from playing for country,Mane' also look clueless in Senegal,how many PK has he miss so far?
Did not copa America Messi was so average and Kun is shocking.Argentina even play better with 10 men when Messi get red card.
Any team that Elneny is one of your best MF running things will not go any where.Hope this season he is gone from arsenal.
Egypt as a host is one of the most hype host in recent nation cup.I would have prefer Naija face them than SA.


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Playing for club is totally different from playing for country,Mane' also look clueless in Senegal,how many PK has he miss so far?
Did not copa America Messi was so average and Kun is shocking.Argentina even play better with 10 men when Messi get red card.
Any team that Elneny is one of your best MF running things will not go any where.Hope this season he is gone from arsenal.
Egypt as a host is one of the most hype host in recent nation cup.I would have prefer Naija face them than SA.



IF WE GO BY YOUR ARGUMENT...


…coaches should ignore club form and use other criteria to select players for the NT. And, of course, the reverse is also true: club coaches should use other criteria to select their players and put less weight on national performance. True?
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Bell you are onto something. One would expect Salah who is a world football superstar to terrorise the less heralded African defenders but that wasnt the case. Against Zim he was threatening in first 15 mins and after that they had figured him out. Against SA he was well contained. Talk of a cold is just excuses :roll: :roll:

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1naija wrote:
This is a faulty conclusion. Salah did not score or shine in every game he played for Liverpool. This is like looking at one of those games he did not score in and say the liverpool system is deficient. SA played well in that game, but I bet if they play each other multiple times, Egypt and Salah will win most.

Sinior Hunkul, you did not watch the game again, did you? :D :taunt: 101 times out of 100, that left back will put Salah in his pocket, and tell him to "SHARRAP!!". In fact, I think Salah is still in there sobbing at how he was embarrassed all game. :lol:

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Bell you are onto something. One would expect Salah who is a world football superstar to terrorise the less heralded African defenders but that wasnt the case. Against Zim he was threatening in first 15 mins and after that they had figured him out. Against SA he was well contained. Talk of a cold is just excuses :roll: :roll:

My bros, help me to told dem. Salah can run against Europeans. When he meets Africans who chase lions, it is another matter. :D :taunt:

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Did you all witness how the SA (left?) back handled Egyptian Mo Salah, the terror to EPL and European defenses? Mo has shown a great ability to score in Europe and the numbers put it beyond debate. But in that Salah is not the kind of player who can take on and beat a defender one on one I've often wondered why defenses didn't have much luck against him using a speedy and physical (not dirty) approach against him.

Against SA in this 2019 Nations Cup, the SA defender succeeded in keeping Salah under control making him unlike the man who had tormented European defenses. The defender SA sent to him was burly and fast. He had no problem catching up with Salah and dispossessing him over and over again. Salah had little impact on the match and Trezeuget (sp) was Egypt's most potent attacker. Maybe some EPL team should just sign the defender up. *With Egypt, look for the stadiums to be even more empty)
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The SA league is one of the best in the country..... Sundowns etc won the champs league a while back owning the likes of Ahly, and I wasn't surprised when they defeated Egypt....also when you play in Africa, pace isn't a factor, because everyone is fast..even Musa gets caught up.... there was no way Salah would have outpaced the SA's left back....

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Samora Machel wrote:
Bell you are onto something. One would expect Salah who is a world football superstar to terrorise the less heralded African defenders but that wasnt the case. Against Zim he was threatening in first 15 mins and after that they had figured him out. Against SA he was well contained. Talk of a cold is just excuses :roll: :roll:



samora, I WISH I COULD SAY I'M ON TO SOMETHING, BUT...


…but Salah's non-performance was obvious even to a non-expert like me. Some say the man had a cold but even then I would have expected him to put on a few moves and show touches that would confirm his status as a world class player. But the Salah we were treated to didn't stand out and would hardly be recognized by Liverpool fans.
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