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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:32 pm 
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bia, my friends, come... this is a serious question abeg, I have asked it multiple times. How is a midfield of Henderson and Milner not in 10th place?


PNP era of Premier League, in these times of Brexit they are the Xavis and Iniestas of the world. Henderson being the Mackem Xavi and Milner the Yorkshire Iniesta.



There's a general misconception that quality MF play can only come from technical players and never from the athletic players like Milner and Hendo. That is completely wrong.

True, the best MFs often come from the technical players or esp, those who combine the two.

but great midfielders have also come from the athletic players, esp those who combine discipline, tactical awareness and high workrate, one of the best examples being the German great, Uli Stielike....

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:25 pm 
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All you Liverpool FC fans should go watch 'THIS IS FOOTBALL', an original Amazon Prime documentary, episode 1.
You'll be proud. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:26 pm 
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txj wrote:
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bia, my friends, come... this is a serious question abeg, I have asked it multiple times. How is a midfield of Henderson and Milner not in 10th place?


PNP era of Premier League, in these times of Brexit they are the Xavis and Iniestas of the world. Henderson being the Mackem Xavi and Milner the Yorkshire Iniesta.



There's a general misconception that quality MF play can only come from technical players and never from the athletic players like Milner and Hendo. That is completely wrong.

True, the best MFs often come from the technical players or esp, those who combine the two.

but great midfielders have also come from the athletic players, esp those who combine discipline, tactical awareness and high workrate, one of the best examples being the German great, Uli Stielike....


I'm not downplaying their utility or effectiveness, I spend a good amount of time praising Championship teams on here.


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Adrian, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum Henderson, Mane, Salah, Firmino

Subs: Kelleher, Milner, Gomez, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Shaqiri, Origi

Klopp has gone for consistencies at least till international break after which games come thick and fast. Will be tough but we should win. Let’s go Red Men! YNWA....


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What a goal by Alexander.

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Perfect assist by Firmino to Mane.

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The Reds R oh so lethal on the counter!!


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Why does Sallah always find it convenient to be selfish especially when it is Mane he has to pass to. Someone needs to issue him a dirty slap, it is becoming ridiculous

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Mane has every right to be angry, it is becoming ridiculous, Sallah is doing it deliberately

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Mane has every right to be angry, it is becoming ridiculous, Sallah is doing it deliberately

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And what does Klop do, he takes off the victims and leave the culprit

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oloye wrote:
Mane has every right to be angry, it is becoming ridiculous, Sallah is doing it deliberately

Fair point but to throw such a temper tantrum when your team is winning 3-0? It makes it seem more about “You” than the “team”. Yes Salah used him as a decoy but goodness, it can’t be that serious now.


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Sleaky72 wrote:
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Mane has every right to be angry, it is becoming ridiculous, Sallah is doing it deliberately

Fair point but to throw such a temper tantrum when your team is winning 3-0? It makes it seem more about “You” than the “team”. Yes Salah used him as a decoy but goodness, it can’t be that serious now.

It is annoying because that has been going on for ages, not just this match. It is only a matter of time before it boils to the surface. Especially when the manager now decides to take him off instead of the stupid and selfish player.

If you have been watching Mane,over several matches he has been bottling the frustration.Sallah did it twice in this game, even Klop was furious at one point.

Things like that destroy team spirit, Mane has been generous to him. If it was me I would slap him if not on the field, it would happen in the dressing room

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:30 pm 
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oloye wrote:
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Mane has every right to be angry, it is becoming ridiculous, Sallah is doing it deliberately

Fair point but to throw such a temper tantrum when your team is winning 3-0? It makes it seem more about “You” than the “team”. Yes Salah used him as a decoy but goodness, it can’t be that serious now.

It is annoying because that has been going on for ages, not just this match. It is only a matter of time before it boils to the surface. Especially when the manager now decides to take him off instead of the stupid and selfish player.

If you have been watching Mane,over several matches he has been bottling the frustration.Sallah did it twice in this game, even Klop was furious at one point.

I hear U loud and clear but it does go both ways. There ave been occasions when Mane has been a ball hog as well. I just think the reaction was way OTT considering that he had already scored and they were up by three. Regardless wetin concern me. Let dem deal with it.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:33 pm 
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Sleaky72 wrote:
oloye wrote:
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oloye wrote:
Mane has every right to be angry, it is becoming ridiculous, Sallah is doing it deliberately

Fair point but to throw such a temper tantrum when your team is winning 3-0? It makes it seem more about “You” than the “team”. Yes Salah used him as a decoy but goodness, it can’t be that serious now.

It is annoying because that has been going on for ages, not just this match. It is only a matter of time before it boils to the surface. Especially when the manager now decides to take him off instead of the stupid and selfish player.

If you have been watching Mane,over several matches he has been bottling the frustration.Sallah did it twice in this game, even Klop was furious at one point.

I hear U loud and clear but it does go both ways. There ave been occasions when Mane has been a ball hog as well. I just think the reaction was way OTT considering that he had already scored and they were up by three. Regardless wetin concern me. Let dem deal with it.

It was long coming, that is the point, this has been brewing long before now. It was bound to happen sooner or later, that why I said I was not surprised by Mane"s reaction.

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I was really mad at the non pass to Mane. In that situation you have 2 options, use him as decoy or pass to him. He chose the former but that non pass to Firmino is really bad. It just makes it look like he wants the team to work for him instead of the other way round.
Happy about the win. Take 2 weeks and make up and get back at it.


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oloye wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:
oloye wrote:
Mane has every right to be angry, it is becoming ridiculous, Sallah is doing it deliberately

Fair point but to throw such a temper tantrum when your team is winning 3-0? It makes it seem more about “You” than the “team”. Yes Salah used him as a decoy but goodness, it can’t be that serious now.

It is annoying because that has been going on for ages, not just this match. It is only a matter of time before it boils to the surface. Especially when the manager now decides to take him off instead of the stupid and selfish player.

If you have been watching Mane,over several matches he has been bottling the frustration.Sallah did it twice in this game, even Klop was furious at one point.

Things like that destroy team spirit, Mane has been generous to him. If it was me I would slap him if not on the field, it would happen in the dressing room

This is what makes Firmino the most important member of that Liverpool attack. Salah is the most talented but he is flawed. Firmino is so selfless, he makes the right choice every time, and has the technique to make it happen. That Mane goal, the weight of that pass was perfect. The role he played on the bench of keeping Mane calm. Either way, that's as impressive a front 3 as I have seen in EPL in all my years of watching since the 90s. Well done guys.

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Salah is way too selfish. This little thing in failing to find your team mate is what won’t make him on the level of Messi and Ronaldo despite his ability.


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kbt wrote:
Salah is way too selfish. This little thing in failing to find your team mate is what won’t make him on the level of Messi and Ronaldo despite his ability.

Ronaldo and Messi ain’t selfish?


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Mohammed needs to cut the selfishness in his game.

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Sleaky72 wrote:
oloye wrote:
Mane has every right to be angry, it is becoming ridiculous, Sallah is doing it deliberately

Fair point but to throw such a temper tantrum when your team is winning 3-0? It makes it seem more about “You” than the “team”. Yes Salah used him as a decoy but goodness, it can’t be that serious now.
...Liverpool and City are raking up goals, that may be the decider at the end.
Mane is right to be mad, Salah's selfihness is gonna ruin the team progress.
This is just like SE video match in the 90s I believe, where Siasia failed to make clear pass to Yekini for a comfortable win vs Algeria and Westerhoff was pissed about it.


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Sleaky72 wrote:
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Salah is way too selfish. This little thing in failing to find your team mate is what won’t make him on the level of Messi and Ronaldo despite his ability.

Ronaldo and Messi ain’t selfish?
...they "sell fish" when they need to help the club win :biggrin:


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mcal wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:
oloye wrote:
Mane has every right to be angry, it is becoming ridiculous, Sallah is doing it deliberately

Fair point but to throw such a temper tantrum when your team is winning 3-0? It makes it seem more about “You” than the “team”. Yes Salah used him as a decoy but goodness, it can’t be that serious now.
...Liverpool and City are raking up goals, that may be the decider at the end.
Mane is right to be mad, Salah's selfihness is gonna ruin the team progress.
This is just like SE video match in the 90s I believe, where Siasia failed to make clear pass to Yekini for a comfortable win vs Algeria and Westerhoff was pissed about it.

Wow aren’t we being a little too desperate and OTT here? What an analogy. Comparing a World Cup qualifier to a league game that ur up by three goals? Ok have it ur way. I’m dne here.


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