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Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:50 pm
by Bigpokey24
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50551888

kai all these Oyinbo folks , small small them dey expose themselves
The incident occurred on a weekend in which all players in the Netherlands' top two divisions agreed not to play in the first minute of games in order to protest against racism, following the abuse suffered by Excelsior's Ahmad Mendes Moreira.

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:36 am
by Chief Ogbunigwe
Bigpokey24 wrote:https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50551888

kai all these Oyinbo folks , small small them dey expose themselves
The incident occurred on a weekend in which all players in the Netherlands' top two divisions agreed not to play in the first minute of games in order to protest against racism, following the abuse suffered by Excelsior's Ahmad Mendes Moreira.

the heartz of men, as Tupac called it.... Kai, na wa. despite forming that formidable trio with Gullit and Frank Rikjaard... abi na we jus dey see am like dat from outside.

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:00 am
by maceo4
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50551888

kai all these Oyinbo folks , small small them dey expose themselves
The incident occurred on a weekend in which all players in the Netherlands' top two divisions agreed not to play in the first minute of games in order to protest against racism, following the abuse suffered by Excelsior's Ahmad Mendes Moreira.

the heartz of men, as Tupac called it.... Kai, na wa. despite forming that formidable trio with Gullit and Frank Rikjaard... abi na we jus dey see am like dat from outside.
I don’t get it, what does him ridiculing a German interviewer by saying ‘Sieg Hiel’ have to do with Gullit and Rijkaard?

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:37 am
by Chief Ogbunigwe
maceo4 wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50551888

kai all these Oyinbo folks , small small them dey expose themselves
The incident occurred on a weekend in which all players in the Netherlands' top two divisions agreed not to play in the first minute of games in order to protest against racism, following the abuse suffered by Excelsior's Ahmad Mendes Moreira.

the heartz of men, as Tupac called it.... Kai, na wa. despite forming that formidable trio with Gullit and Frank Rikjaard... abi na we jus dey see am like dat from outside.
I don’t get it, what does him ridiculing a German interviewer by saying ‘Sieg Hiel’ have to do with Gullit and Rijkaard?
maybe I misunderstood. I thought he made a Nazi comment....as in being racist.

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:33 am
by maceo4
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50551888

kai all these Oyinbo folks , small small them dey expose themselves
The incident occurred on a weekend in which all players in the Netherlands' top two divisions agreed not to play in the first minute of games in order to protest against racism, following the abuse suffered by Excelsior's Ahmad Mendes Moreira.

the heartz of men, as Tupac called it.... Kai, na wa. despite forming that formidable trio with Gullit and Frank Rikjaard... abi na we jus dey see am like dat from outside.
I don’t get it, what does him ridiculing a German interviewer by saying ‘Sieg Hiel’ have to do with Gullit and Rijkaard?
maybe I misunderstood. I thought he made a Nazi comment....as in being racist.
As far as I understand, bobo made an insensitive Nazi comment towards a white German, so nothing to do with race. The Dutch league just happened to be taking one minute delays in every game to protest a previous racially motivated abuse of a player. It’s two separate things sha...and is still wrong, but not racist.

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:37 am
by kalani JR
maceo4 wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50551888

kai all these Oyinbo folks , small small them dey expose themselves
The incident occurred on a weekend in which all players in the Netherlands' top two divisions agreed not to play in the first minute of games in order to protest against racism, following the abuse suffered by Excelsior's Ahmad Mendes Moreira.

the heartz of men, as Tupac called it.... Kai, na wa. despite forming that formidable trio with Gullit and Frank Rikjaard... abi na we jus dey see am like dat from outside.
I don’t get it, what does him ridiculing a German interviewer by saying ‘Sieg Hiel’ have to do with Gullit and Rijkaard?
maybe I misunderstood. I thought he made a Nazi comment....as in being racist.
As far as I understand, bobo made an insensitive Nazi comment towards a white German, so nothing to do with race. The Dutch league just happened to be taking one minute delays in every game to protest a previous racially motivated abuse of a player. It’s two separate things sha...and is still wrong, but not racist.
Nazi comment is racist by definition racist even if it is directed at a white person, if he called a white guy the nword would it still be racist?

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:46 pm
by Scipio Africanus
Lots of bad blood between the Dutch and the Germans, mostly from the Dutch side ...

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:05 pm
by Bigpokey24
Mace isn't intelligent at all, so nazi didn't kill white folks eh? Do you think only black folks are victims when it comes to racism? Oh boy go and learn about Auschwitz

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:37 pm
by maceo4
kalani JR wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50551888

kai all these Oyinbo folks , small small them dey expose themselves
The incident occurred on a weekend in which all players in the Netherlands' top two divisions agreed not to play in the first minute of games in order to protest against racism, following the abuse suffered by Excelsior's Ahmad Mendes Moreira.

the heartz of men, as Tupac called it.... Kai, na wa. despite forming that formidable trio with Gullit and Frank Rikjaard... abi na we jus dey see am like dat from outside.
I don’t get it, what does him ridiculing a German interviewer by saying ‘Sieg Hiel’ have to do with Gullit and Rijkaard?
maybe I misunderstood. I thought he made a Nazi comment....as in being racist.
As far as I understand, bobo made an insensitive Nazi comment towards a white German, so nothing to do with race. The Dutch league just happened to be taking one minute delays in every game to protest a previous racially motivated abuse of a player. It’s two separate things sha...and is still wrong, but not racist.
Nazi comment is racist by definition racist even if it is directed at a white person, if he called a white guy the nword would it still be racist?
How is it racist by definition? What does it have to do with race? This is a white man making fun of another white man regarding white ppl stuff. Abeg why do we have to appropriate other people’s wahala when they not even worrying about us?

And even if you consider it racist does it have anything to do with Gullit etc who aren’t white or German?

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:54 pm
by maceo4
Bigpokey24 wrote:Mace isn't intelligent at all, so nazi didn't kill white folks eh? Do you think only black folks are victims when it comes to racism? Oh boy go and learn about Auschwitz
Lol even you wey post tori show me one place in the story where they called his comment racist. I’ll wait...

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:16 pm
by kalani JR
maceo4 wrote:
kalani JR wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
the heartz of men, as Tupac called it.... Kai, na wa. despite forming that formidable trio with Gullit and Frank Rikjaard... abi na we jus dey see am like dat from outside.
I don’t get it, what does him ridiculing a German interviewer by saying ‘Sieg Hiel’ have to do with Gullit and Rijkaard?
maybe I misunderstood. I thought he made a Nazi comment....as in being racist.
As far as I understand, bobo made an insensitive Nazi comment towards a white German, so nothing to do with race. The Dutch league just happened to be taking one minute delays in every game to protest a previous racially motivated abuse of a player. It’s two separate things sha...and is still wrong, but not racist.
Nazi comment is racist by definition racist even if it is directed at a white person, if he called a white guy the nword would it still be racist?
How is it racist by definition? What does it have to do with race? This is a white man making fun of another white man regarding white ppl stuff. Abeg why do we have to appropriate other people’s wahala when they not even worrying about us?

And even if you consider it racist does it have anything to do with Gullit etc who aren’t white or German?
Nazism is racist ergo a quote propagating Nazis is a racist quote.

WE aren't doing anything, Fox Zports NL is the one who suspended him.

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:37 pm
by maceo4
kalani JR wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
kalani JR wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
maceo4 wrote:
Chief Ogbunigwe wrote:
the heartz of men, as Tupac called it.... Kai, na wa. despite forming that formidable trio with Gullit and Frank Rikjaard... abi na we jus dey see am like dat from outside.
I don’t get it, what does him ridiculing a German interviewer by saying ‘Sieg Hiel’ have to do with Gullit and Rijkaard?
maybe I misunderstood. I thought he made a Nazi comment....as in being racist.
As far as I understand, bobo made an insensitive Nazi comment towards a white German, so nothing to do with race. The Dutch league just happened to be taking one minute delays in every game to protest a previous racially motivated abuse of a player. It’s two separate things sha...and is still wrong, but not racist.
Nazi comment is racist by definition racist even if it is directed at a white person, if he called a white guy the nword would it still be racist?
How is it racist by definition? What does it have to do with race? This is a white man making fun of another white man regarding white ppl stuff. Abeg why do we have to appropriate other people’s wahala when they not even worrying about us?

And even if you consider it racist does it have anything to do with Gullit etc who aren’t white or German?
Nazism is racist ergo a quote propagating Nazis is a racist quote.

WE aren't doing anything, Fox Zports NL is the one who suspended him.
Tells me you didn’t read the article. Who was propagating Nazism? He was trying to make fun of a fellow interviewers accent (who happened to be German) by insinuating it sounded like Nazis. But the joke fell flat and he immediately apologized on camera. He was suspended because it was inappropriate, the people that suspended him mentioned NOTHING about racism, so why are WE?

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:11 pm
by cic old boy
This is Germany/Holland beef not racism.

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:07 pm
by Senator WIRES
It is like a man wey dey help people carry their loads come think say nah him owned the load! :roll:

Tufikwa :roll:

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:22 pm
by kalani JR
maceo4 wrote:
kalani JR wrote:
Nazi comment is racist by definition racist even if it is directed at a white person, if he called a white guy the nword would it still be racist?
How is it racist by definition? What does it have to do with race? This is a white man making fun of another white man regarding white ppl stuff. Abeg why do we have to appropriate other people’s wahala when they not even worrying about us?

And even if you consider it racist does it have anything to do with Gullit etc who aren’t white or German?
Nazism is racist ergo a quote propagating Nazis is a racist quote.

WE aren't doing anything, Fox Zports NL is the one who suspended him.[/quote]

Tells me you didn’t read the article. Who was propagating Nazism? He was trying to make fun of a fellow interviewers accent (who happened to be German) by insinuating it sounded like Nazis. But the joke fell flat and he immediately apologized on camera. He was suspended because it was inappropriate, the people that suspended him mentioned NOTHING about racism, so why are WE?[/quote]

"Sieg Heil" is just an innocent quote I guess, I'm starting to buy in danfo's number in the user name theory.

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:40 pm
by Bigpokey24
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mace discuss when you are done

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:28 am
by maceo4
Yawn...there’s no reasoning with fools, I guess context matters not anymore, so if I type ‘Sieg Hiel’ here in the context of this discussion that means I’m also propagating Nazism same as you Kalunki and therefore should be suspended from CE for racism abi... :rotf: :rotf:

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:30 am
by maceo4
Bigpokey24 wrote:[/video]

mace discuss when you are done
Once you show me where in the article it was called racism...abi no be you post am? Wetin dey hold u?

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:42 am
by kalani JR
maceo4 wrote:Yawn...there’s no reasoning with fools, I guess context matters not anymore, so if I type ‘Sieg Hiel’ here in the context of this discussion that means I’m also propagating Nazism same as you Kalunki and therefore should be suspended from CE for racism abi... :rotf: :rotf:
So I supposed this is why there are no internal debates nor critical thinking with yourself?

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:41 am
by DIMKA76
Omo it's not just about the intended target of the comment. It's also about the viewers and audience. There could be Jewish people listening and it could bring back all sorts of negative emotion and hurt. Not unless one is trying to underplay the hurt Jews suffered which is absolutely absurd.

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:11 am
by maceo4
kalani JR wrote:
maceo4 wrote:Yawn...there’s no reasoning with fools, I guess context matters not anymore, so if I type ‘Sieg Hiel’ here in the context of this discussion that means I’m also propagating Nazism same as you Kalunki and therefore should be suspended from CE for racism abi... :rotf: :rotf:
So I supposed this is why there are no internal debates nor critical thinking with yourself?
Sure kalunki, stop being racist with your Nazism... :rotf:

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:14 am
by maceo4
DIMKA76 wrote:Omo it's not just about the intended target of the comment. It's also about the viewers and audience. There could be Jewish people listening and it could bring back all sorts of negative emotion and hurt. Not unless one is trying to underplay the hurt Jews suffered which is absolutely absurd.
That’s why it’s inappropriate and he was rightly punished, but BP and his apprentice want to introduce racism where it doesn’t exist...

Re: Marco van Basten suspended following Nazi remark

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:48 pm
by King Futcha
kalani JR wrote:
maceo4 wrote:Yawn...there’s no reasoning with fools, I guess context matters not anymore, so if I type ‘Sieg Hiel’ here in the context of this discussion that means I’m also propagating Nazism same as you Kalunki and therefore should be suspended from CE for racism abi... :rotf: :rotf:
So I supposed this is why there are no internal debates nor critical thinking with yourself?
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