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Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:35 am
by camex
In 2013, Romario shared an article on Lionel Messi and triggered huge controversy. “Did you know that Messi has Asperger syndrome, a mild form of autism?” This comment did not go down well with the Argentinian’s father!
He even wanted to take Romario to court! But is there any truth in this? Like Albert Einstein, could Messi have high-functioning autism? Discover the answer in this video.
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Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:02 am
by Kabalega
@camex did you even bother to see the video you posted?

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:21 am
by camex
Kabalega wrote:@camex did you even bother to see the video you posted?
Yes, it is a claim, not a proof. He is highly focused on the field and it could be related to autism. Don't you find it surprising that a student had to raise his hands for him in class or that he had a spoon in his mouth during the whole training session. He is at the very least very shy.

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:42 am
by Kabalega
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:@camex did you even bother to see the video you posted?
Yes, it is a claim, not a proof. He is highly focused on the field and it could be related to autism. Don't you find it surprising that a student had to raise his hands for him in class or that he had a spoon in his mouth during the whole training session. He is at the very least very shy.
No sane professional will diagnose anyone with Aspergers or Autism based on your evidence.

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:56 am
by camex
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:@camex did you even bother to see the video you posted?
Yes, it is a claim, not a proof. He is highly focused on the field and it could be related to autism. Don't you find it surprising that a student had to raise his hands for him in class or that he had a spoon in his mouth during the whole training session. He is at the very least very shy.
No sane professional will diagnose anyone with Aspergers or Autism based on your evidence.
That is true. You probably need to spend a lot of time with a person to diagnose asperger syndrome. However, among geniuses, it is not so rare. And Messi is a genius. Hence the question.

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:10 am
by Kabalega
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:@camex did you even bother to see the video you posted?
Yes, it is a claim, not a proof. He is highly focused on the field and it could be related to autism. Don't you find it surprising that a student had to raise his hands for him in class or that he had a spoon in his mouth during the whole training session. He is at the very least very shy.
No sane professional will diagnose anyone with Aspergers or Autism based on your evidence.
That is true. You probably need to spend a lot of time with a person to diagnose asperger syndrome. However, among geniuses, it is not so rare. And Messi is a genius. Hence the question.
If you did a simple online search you'd realize that Aspergers and Austism are even difficult for trained pros to diagnose.

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:55 am
by Damunk
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:@camex did you even bother to see the video you posted?
Yes, it is a claim, not a proof. He is highly focused on the field and it could be related to autism. Don't you find it surprising that a student had to raise his hands for him in class or that he had a spoon in his mouth during the whole training session. He is at the very least very shy.
No sane professional will diagnose anyone with Aspergers or Autism based on your evidence.
That is true. You probably need to spend a lot of time with a person to diagnose asperger syndrome. However, among geniuses, it is not so rare. And Messi is a genius. Hence the question.
If you did a simple online search you'd realize that Aspergers and Austism are even difficult for trained pros to diagnose.
Exactly, which means the claim cannot be readily dismissed simply because it is Messi.
There are probably millions of people on the planet with an ASD that might never be diagnosed.
The higher functioning ones are even harder to spot.

The video just raises food for thought, that's all.

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:19 pm
by Kabalega
Damunk wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:@camex did you even bother to see the video you posted?
Yes, it is a claim, not a proof. He is highly focused on the field and it could be related to autism. Don't you find it surprising that a student had to raise his hands for him in class or that he had a spoon in his mouth during the whole training session. He is at the very least very shy.
No sane professional will diagnose anyone with Aspergers or Autism based on your evidence.
That is true. You probably need to spend a lot of time with a person to diagnose asperger syndrome. However, among geniuses, it is not so rare. And Messi is a genius. Hence the question.
If you did a simple online search you'd realize that Aspergers and Austism are even difficult for trained pros to diagnose.
Exactly, which means the claim cannot be readily dismissed simply because it is Messi.
There are probably millions of people on the planet with an ASD that might never be diagnosed.
The higher functioning ones are even harder to spot.

The video just raises food for thought, that's all.
True.

However, note that folks like camex take info like this to another level.

Along those lines.... there is strong evidence that suggests auto immune activity plays a strong role, hence the anti-vaccers.

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:24 pm
by Damunk
Kabalega wrote:
Damunk wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:@camex did you even bother to see the video you posted?
Yes, it is a claim, not a proof. He is highly focused on the field and it could be related to autism. Don't you find it surprising that a student had to raise his hands for him in class or that he had a spoon in his mouth during the whole training session. He is at the very least very shy.
No sane professional will diagnose anyone with Aspergers or Autism based on your evidence.
That is true. You probably need to spend a lot of time with a person to diagnose asperger syndrome. However, among geniuses, it is not so rare. And Messi is a genius. Hence the question.
If you did a simple online search you'd realize that Aspergers and Austism are even difficult for trained pros to diagnose.
Exactly, which means the claim cannot be readily dismissed simply because it is Messi.
There are probably millions of people on the planet with an ASD that might never be diagnosed.
The higher functioning ones are even harder to spot.

The video just raises food for thought, that's all.
True.

However, note that folks like camex take info like this to another level.

Along those lines.... there is strong evidence that suggests auto immune activity plays a strong role, hence the anti-vaccers.
Yes and in the UK those anti-vaccers did huge and irreparable damage to child health leading to a spike in measles outbreaks all because of one rogue doctor making spurious claims linking autism to the triple vaccine (MMR).
Basically it was a fraudulent claim.

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:29 pm
by camex
Kabalega wrote:
Damunk wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:@camex did you even bother to see the video you posted?
Yes, it is a claim, not a proof. He is highly focused on the field and it could be related to autism. Don't you find it surprising that a student had to raise his hands for him in class or that he had a spoon in his mouth during the whole training session. He is at the very least very shy.
No sane professional will diagnose anyone with Aspergers or Autism based on your evidence.
That is true. You probably need to spend a lot of time with a person to diagnose asperger syndrome. However, among geniuses, it is not so rare. And Messi is a genius. Hence the question.
If you did a simple online search you'd realize that Aspergers and Austism are even difficult for trained pros to diagnose.
Exactly, which means the claim cannot be readily dismissed simply because it is Messi.
There are probably millions of people on the planet with an ASD that might never be diagnosed.
The higher functioning ones are even harder to spot.

The video just raises food for thought, that's all.
True.

However, note that folks like camex take info like this to another level.

Along those lines.... there is strong evidence that suggests auto immune activity plays a strong role, hence the anti-vaccers.
How did you make the connection with antivaxxers? I am merely saying that this video show that at the very least Messi is very shy. There is also a possibility that there is more then shyness. I am not sure what the anti-vaxxers have got to do with a claim about only one individual.

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:10 pm
by Kabalega
Damunk wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
Damunk wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote: Yes, it is a claim, not a proof. He is highly focused on the field and it could be related to autism. Don't you find it surprising that a student had to raise his hands for him in class or that he had a spoon in his mouth during the whole training session. He is at the very least very shy.
No sane professional will diagnose anyone with Aspergers or Autism based on your evidence.
That is true. You probably need to spend a lot of time with a person to diagnose asperger syndrome. However, among geniuses, it is not so rare. And Messi is a genius. Hence the question.
If you did a simple online search you'd realize that Aspergers and Austism are even difficult for trained pros to diagnose.
Exactly, which means the claim cannot be readily dismissed simply because it is Messi.
There are probably millions of people on the planet with an ASD that might never be diagnosed.
The higher functioning ones are even harder to spot.

The video just raises food for thought, that's all.
True.

However, note that folks like camex take info like this to another level.

Along those lines.... there is strong evidence that suggests auto immune activity plays a strong role, hence the anti-vaccers.
Yes and in the UK those anti-vaccers did huge and irreparable damage to child health leading to a spike in measles outbreaks all because of one rogue doctor making spurious claims linking autism to the triple vaccine (MMR).
Basically it was a fraudulent claim.
There is more to it than just that incident.
Critically look at the often cited, A. Rauch - ‎2007 study and others before it.

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:10 pm
by ohsee
Damunk wrote:Yes and in the UK those anti-vaccers did huge and irreparable damage to child health leading to a spike in measles outbreaks all because of one rogue doctor making spurious claims linking autism to the triple vaccine (MMR).
Basically it was a fraudulent claim.
:scared:
Doc, biko take sofry, and hide this post well-well, before sinequanoise sees it ooooo. Fortunately, he rarely comes to WORLD FOOTBALL, or he would have already chosen the nuclear option. :D :lol:

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:12 pm
by Damunk
ohsee wrote:
Damunk wrote:Yes and in the UK those anti-vaccers did huge and irreparable damage to child health leading to a spike in measles outbreaks all because of one rogue doctor making spurious claims linking autism to the triple vaccine (MMR).
Basically it was a fraudulent claim.
:scared:
Doc, biko take sofry, and hide this post well-well, before sinequanoise sees it ooooo. Fortunately, he rarely comes to WORLD FOOTBALL, or he would have already chosen the nuclear option. :D :lol:
Me and SQN have ...ahem... "exchanged views" on this very matter and you can guess the nature of the discussion. :D
I don't expend too much energy - or bandwidth - on debates with SQN.

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:49 am
by Kabalega
Guys be careful regarding this issue otherwise history will mark you as old fools.

SQN has a personal interest and skill(s) at this topic for a reason.

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:02 am
by Damunk
Kabalega wrote:
Damunk wrote:
Kabalega wrote:
Damunk wrote:Exactly, which means the claim cannot be readily dismissed simply because it is Messi.
There are probably millions of people on the planet with an ASD that might never be diagnosed.
The higher functioning ones are even harder to spot.

The video just raises food for thought, that's all.
True.

However, note that folks like camex take info like this to another level.

Along those lines.... there is strong evidence that suggests auto immune activity plays a strong role, hence the anti-vaccers.
Yes and in the UK those anti-vaccers did huge and irreparable damage to child health leading to a spike in measles outbreaks all because of one rogue doctor making spurious claims linking autism to the triple vaccine (MMR).
Basically it was a fraudulent claim.
There is more to it than just that incident.
Critically look at the often cited, A. Rauch - ‎2007 study and others before it.
I can't find it.
Can you help?

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:54 am
by ANC
i want 5mins of my life back. :curse:

Re: Does Lionel Messi have high-functioning autism?

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:29 pm
by Field Marshall Ogolo
Kabalega wrote:
camex wrote:
Kabalega wrote:@camex did you even bother to see the video you posted?
Yes, it is a claim, not a proof. He is highly focused on the field and it could be related to autism. Don't you find it surprising that a student had to raise his hands for him in class or that he had a spoon in his mouth during the whole training session. He is at the very least very shy.
No sane professional will diagnose anyone with Aspergers or Autism based on your evidence.
No man has caused more pain to Nigeria than Messi. They make up stuff about him. Ndugu you must certainly know why.