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Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:35 am
by marko
highly entertaining game!

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:03 am
by benteke
Coach wrote:@CIC, harsh and somewhat illogical conclusion. 35 attempts on goal, 9 saves, a couple clatterings with the woodwork. Liverpool lay siege to the Atletico goal. One cannot overstate the significance of a safe pair of hands between the sticks. Add to that, the defensive resolve and durability of Atletico. Few could do as they did. First goal aside, the susceptibility to quick counters remains Liverpool’s Achilles heel, all the more reason Klopp places great emphasis on recovery and second phase. If one can recover the ball and hit the space behind the fullbacks, there’s trouble to be had.

That said, Liverpool are a tremendously creative outfit, 35 shots, 9 forcing saves, is no small feat. Glad to see them out.
Very relentless team.
At some point in the 2nd half i was resigned to Atletico losing at least 3-0.
I'm also glad they are out, I'm sure the remaining teams are glad too

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:10 am
by cic old boy
benteke wrote:
Very relentless team.
At some point in the 2nd half i was resigned to Atletico losing at least 3-0.
I'm also glad they are out, I'm sure the remaining teams are glad too
When Liverpool scored in the 1st half, I thought it was over. B/c I thought Atleti just needed to ensure the 1st half ended goalless or that they scored first. Then when Liverpool made it 2-0. I thought there was no coming back for Atleti.

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:00 pm
by The YeyeMan
Simeone masterclass?? For where? Atletico offered nothing in 90 minutes. Sat back and defended while Liverpool created chance after chance. some of you are carrying on like it was a masterclass in defending. :lol:

Adrian gifted Atletico the game. But they were clinical so well done to them.

Anyway, once the season is finished Liverpool will still be European champions as the next round of games won't be played any time soon..... :D

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:19 pm
by Alategun
I thought so too. The credit I give to them is the heart. That they got from their coach. The header from Robertson that hit the crossbar could be termed lucky but the heart of the defender to not give up and challenged Robertson, otherwise he heads into an open goal. So partly lucky but Mane and Salah played hard but poor finishing. Everything being said, Adrian just needed to pass the ball left to Milner. He Adrian got us out of 2 cups in 1 week. He makes too many errors leading to goal and his set up before a shot on goal is horrible. Oh Well, he was never going to be Alison. We go again.

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:17 pm
by Sleaky72
"I don't understand with the quality they have the football they play. They could play proper football but they stand deep and have counter-attacks," said the German.

"We accept it of course but it doesn't feel right tonight. I realise I am a really bad loser, especially when the boys put such an effort in against world class players on the other side who defend with two rows of four."
Klopp.

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:33 pm
by wanaj0
Sleaky72 wrote:
"I don't understand with the quality they have the football they play. They could play proper football but they stand deep and have counter-attacks," said the German.

"We accept it of course but it doesn't feel right tonight. I realise I am a really bad loser, especially when the boys put such an effort in against world class players on the other side who defend with two rows of four."
Klopp.
Sounds like Mourinho :)

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:27 pm
by danfo driver
The YeyeMan wrote:Simeone masterclass?? For where? Atletico offered nothing in 90 minutes. Sat back and defended while Liverpool created chance after chance. some of you are carrying on like it was a masterclass in defending. :lol:

Adrian gifted Atletico the game. But they were clinical so well done to them.

Anyway, once the season is finished Liverpool will still be European champions as the next round of games won't be played any time soon..... :D
BOOO HOOOO HOOOOO HOOOOO :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


e pain am! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:28 pm
by danfo driver
Sleaky72 wrote:
"I don't understand with the quality they have the football they play. They could play proper football but they stand deep and have counter-attacks," said the German.

"We accept it of course but it doesn't feel right tonight. I realise I am a really bad loser, especially when the boys put such an effort in against world class players on the other side who defend with two rows of four."
Klopp.
Loser wit rotten teeth! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:07 pm
by Sleaky72
wanaj0 wrote:
Sleaky72 wrote:
"I don't understand with the quality they have the football they play. They could play proper football but they stand deep and have counter-attacks," said the German.

"We accept it of course but it doesn't feel right tonight. I realise I am a really bad loser, especially when the boys put such an effort in against world class players on the other side who defend with two rows of four."
Klopp.
Sounds like Mourinho :)
Kicking a man when he is down
:oops: :oops:

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:56 pm
by balo

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:28 pm
by Scipio Africanus
balo wrote:
"A ganar!!!". Kudos to Diego "el cholo" Simeone :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:36 pm
by benteke
Sleaky72 wrote:
"I don't understand with the quality they have the football they play. They could play proper football but they stand deep and have counter-attacks," said the German.

"We accept it of course but it doesn't feel right tonight. I realise I am a really bad loser, especially when the boys put such an effort in against world class players on the other side who defend with two rows of four."
Klopp.
I remember when Yujam and his fellow La Liga fanboys used to flatly deny that Atletico is one team that tends to play what is normally called parking a bus when it's done by any English team coached by Mourinho.
Even after yesterday some people are re-branding that as a defensive masterclass.
Had that team done exactly the same under Mourinho, there would be universal outrage.
Hypocrisy levels :biggrin:

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:12 pm
by danfo driver
balo wrote:
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:01 pm
by MYMIND
The Keeper messed up the game, simple as that. Blunders happen... Liverpool got the 2 unreplied goals they needed and are good this season at closing out games once winning. Nothing more needs to be said.

If the game was scheduled for next week, it would have been postponed and Allison would have returned in goal on the rescheduled day.

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:30 pm
by danfo driver
MYMIND wrote:The Keeper messed up the game, simple as that. Blunders happen... Liverpool got the 2 unreplied goals they needed and are good this season at closing out games once winning. Nothing more needs to be said.

If the game was scheduled for next week, it would have been postponed and Allison would have returned in goal on the rescheduled day.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:33 pm
by cic old boy
benteke wrote: I remember when Yujam and his fellow La Liga fanboys used to flatly deny that Atletico is one team that tends to play what is normally called parking a bus when it's done by any English team coached by Mourinho.
Even after yesterday some people are re-branding that as a defensive masterclass.
Had that team done exactly the same under Mourinho, there would be universal outrage.
Hypocrisy levels :biggrin:
Atleti park the bus against Barca, Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool, but play good football against teams lesser than those. Borinho parks the bus against Southampton. Atleti came to Stamford Bridge and played Chelsea under Borinho off the park in a 3-1 win in a CL semi.

Borinho took his bus to Madrid. I doubt if Simeone will park the bus if he coached a team like that.

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:00 am
by danfo driver
Some people are hurting deeply. They are hurting and their heart is burning because they know this Liverpool team is another Leicester and another Blackburn. Nothing more! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

O-N-E-B-L-E! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:02 am
by kalani JR
cic old boy wrote:
benteke wrote: I remember when Yujam and his fellow La Liga fanboys used to flatly deny that Atletico is one team that tends to play what is normally called parking a bus when it's done by any English team coached by Mourinho.
Even after yesterday some people are re-branding that as a defensive masterclass.
Had that team done exactly the same under Mourinho, there would be universal outrage.
Hypocrisy levels :biggrin:
Atleti park the bus against Barca, Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool, but play good football against teams lesser than those. Borinho parks the bus against Southampton. Atleti came to Stamford Bridge and played Chelsea under Borinho off the park in a 3-1 win in a CL semi.

Borinho took his bus to Madrid. I doubt if Simeone will park the bus if he coached a team like that.
They really don't.

Same might not be true for present day Mou but with Inter their CL style was different from league style and the Madrid team was very attacking.

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:55 am
by benteke
kalani JR wrote:
cic old boy wrote:
benteke wrote: I remember when Yujam and his fellow La Liga fanboys used to flatly deny that Atletico is one team that tends to play what is normally called parking a bus when it's done by any English team coached by Mourinho.
Even after yesterday some people are re-branding that as a defensive masterclass.
Had that team done exactly the same under Mourinho, there would be universal outrage.
Hypocrisy levels :biggrin:
Atleti park the bus against Barca, Madrid, Bayern, Liverpool, but play good football against teams lesser than those. Borinho parks the bus against Southampton. Atleti came to Stamford Bridge and played Chelsea under Borinho off the park in a 3-1 win in a CL semi.

Borinho took his bus to Madrid. I doubt if Simeone will park the bus if he coached a team like that.
They really don't.

Same might not be true for present day Mou but with Inter their CL style was different from league style and the Madrid team was very attacking.
We told them this long time ago, now i just want to see how much further they will go defending Simeone tactics at Anfield.
Those tactics actually don't bother me, i enjoy watching such dogged performances, but i don't like people lying to me trying to act as if it's anything better than what Mourinho normally gets criticised for in big games.

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:18 am
by Coach
When the dust settles, the salient point is, however incongruous with the Kloppian view on opposing strategy, Atletico won both legs. Prior to that, when last had Liverpool lost at home? How many defeats in the past 70 odd games. Perhaps Klopp was dabbling in rhetoricals...why do they play like that? Two games, two defeats. Does one need to ask?

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:07 pm
by cic old boy
kalani JR wrote: They really don't.

Same might not be true for present day Mou but with Inter their CL style was different from league style and the Madrid team was very attacking.
Atleti play very good football when they are not up against the teams I mentioned. Go and watch them at Stamford Bridge against Borinho and Chelski.

Nobody ever said "very attacking" and Borinho in the same sentence unless you mean counter-attacking or poking Tito Vilanova in the eye. He was criticised by Di Stefano at Madrid, who asked whether Madrid were men or mice.
A key to understanding Mourinho’s methods lies in the controversial but respected and widely cited Diego Torres biography of the Portuguese boss.

In the book, Torres outlines Mourinho’s seven-point plan for big games:

1. The game is won by the team who commits fewer errors.

2. Football favours whoever provokes more errors in the opposition.

3. Away from home, instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, it’s better to encourage their mistakes.

4. Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.

5. Whoever renounces possession reduces the possibility of making a mistake.

6. Whoever has the ball has fear.

7. Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.
https://www.the42.ie/jose-mourinho-opin ... 7-May2018/
Borinho was a bus driver at Porto, Inter and it became even more ingrained in him after Madrid's 5-0 defeat to Barca.

Re: UCL: LIVERPOOL VS AMad 2-3 (2-4) agg

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:14 pm
by kalani JR
cic old boy wrote:
kalani JR wrote: They really don't.

Same might not be true for present day Mou but with Inter their CL style was different from league style and the Madrid team was very attacking.
Atleti play very good football when they are not up against the teams I mentioned. Go and watch them at Stamford Bridge against Borinho and Chelski.

Nobody ever said "very attacking" and Borinho in the same sentence unless you mean counter-attacking or poking Tito Vilanova in the eye. He was criticised by Di Stefano at Madrid, who asked whether Madrid were men or mice.
A key to understanding Mourinho’s methods lies in the controversial but respected and widely cited Diego Torres biography of the Portuguese boss.

In the book, Torres outlines Mourinho’s seven-point plan for big games:

1. The game is won by the team who commits fewer errors.

2. Football favours whoever provokes more errors in the opposition.

3. Away from home, instead of trying to be superior to the opposition, it’s better to encourage their mistakes.

4. Whoever has the ball is more likely to make a mistake.

5. Whoever renounces possession reduces the possibility of making a mistake.

6. Whoever has the ball has fear.

7. Whoever does not have it is thereby stronger.
https://www.the42.ie/jose-mourinho-opin ... 7-May2018/
Borinho was a bus driver at Porto, Inter and it became even more ingrained in him after Madrid's 5-0 defeat to Barca.
They scored over a 100 goals in the league in each one of his seasons at Madrid. Everyone judges his Inter team from the games vs. Barça (the second leg is one of the greatest tactical masterclasses of all time) but in the league they were very open and attacking.