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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:46 am 
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On Lampards case I think it is more a case of nepotism, he got his first job based on recommendation by his Uncle and he took that opportunity.
It is sometimes easier for kids of ex-players, Troy Deeney just drops his kids at Watford academy are you going to question him? Most kids fight tooth and nail with parents travelling miles to get a sniff of that academy. What those kids now choose to do with it is up to them.

In the industry we work in our kids stand a better chance than most.

On Steven Gerard a bit like John Barnes, Kenny Dalglish brought him in at Celtic. Started signing oldies like Ian Wright. A lot of them are now in Academy coaching so I think change will come


Yes i agree, sometimes, its who you know, personal recommendation goes a long way, perhaps new legislation is required to ensure ethnic minorities are considered for top coaching roles, similar to what you have in the US, i always get that feeling a black European coach stands a better chance of getting a premiership role than a British one, see no reason why a Rio Ferdinand who is quite popular cannot get a coaching job, he certainly looks the part and is still involved in the game, also a Patrick Viera, but lets develop the league in Africa to world standards so we can give opportunities to Nigerian ex-international, many of who have gone into coaching, stop hiring Europeans who have done nothing to improve African football except their own pocket

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:38 pm 
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kalani JR wrote:
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He is English. He is looking for an equal opportunity in his country. You are not making any sense.


Many Nigerian (black) coaches, in Nigeria, are looking for equal opportunities in their country; NFA prefers Oyibo coach.
If we don't even trust our own, how do u expect Oyibo to trust their own blacks?


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You guys don't think you are being a bit unfair here? NFF hires mainly Nigerians (retired internationals) for youth teams and has hired Nigerians for the top coaching job in the country. Argument could be they treat their own worse in those positions, and expect them to suffer their incompetence but do try to give the oyinbo coaches more of what they desire. But at the end of the day there are only a few of these National positions, but it seems that's the only position these guys are waiting out for. I guess the local league is not attractive enough for them to work in? All comes down to the development of our game/league back home, if we had things working properly it would attract more of our retired players to develop their CVs locally and expand to other African countries before ever having to consider Europe.


Yeah, they have done poorly with supporting local coaches but they have not been hesitant to hire them especially when compared to the WOWOs in Ghana, CIV and Cameroon.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:12 pm 
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marko wrote:
Like i said, how can we explain white privilege in Africa? how can European 3rd rate coaches come to Africa, get paid 30,000 USD a month, live in their home countries and we accept it on this forum, Swedish coach Lagerback came to Nigeria with a power point slide and got a 300,000 6 months contract and refused to renew it after the shambles of that world cup, yes there is racism is Europe, it is evident and yes it is overt, Raheem Sterling has a point, Lampard did not get his job based on his CV, yes we know that, There is nothing about racism that has not been discussed on this forum, what do we do about it? is there anything stopping Africa from developing our league to European / South American standards ? considering the amounts of money they loot from the continent? imagine if we just had a world class league in Africa, we can easily hire all these black European coaches like Sol Campbell and the likes, give them a chance to excel and let people notice their abilities, just the same way Samson Sia Sia showed his coaching abilities on the world stage, what do we do instead, we hire European journey men in Africa, pay them large salaries and dont give our fellow black coaches the same opportunities, how many black people coach European national teams? its time we need to start building inwards, we can do it, time for us to stop playing the victim, Africa should lead the charge!


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:32 pm 
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Lets develop our leagues in Africa! Then we can hire our own! We do have a lot of white coaches in Africa, how do we explain this? White privilege works in Africa as well?

Ha it works in Africa oooh,go and apply for a job in nigeria and a white man come and apply for that same job with less experience than you.

Ask yourself why that is so.

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Is it me or Lampard sure has some serious white fragility and entitlement syndrome? Just watch his video responding to Raheem on his privilege vis a vis Sol Campbell and others. He got so defensive, talking about how he worked hard before becoming Chelsea coach. Dude, if you don’t think your whiteness, and privilege pave the way for you, then you are seriously lost. How many players from your generation that are black get to coach a world class team at this level? Like Drogba, Makalele, Ashley Coles are not as hardworking as you? Give me a break!

why only Lampard, who did assanal hire? they chose Mikel Arteta. whereas Sol Campbell was ignored

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furiously frank wrote:
Is it me or Lampard sure has some serious white fragility and entitlement syndrome? Just watch his video responding to Raheem on his privilege vis a vis Sol Campbell and others. He got so defensive, talking about how he worked hard before becoming Chelsea coach. Dude, if you don’t think your whiteness, and privilege pave the way for you, then you are seriously lost. How many players from your generation that are black get to coach a world class team at this level? Like Drogba, Makalele, Ashley Coles are not as hardworking as you? Give me a break!

why only Lampard, who did assanal hire? they chose Mikel Arteta. whereas Sol Campbell was ignored


Arsenal has never fired a black manager, Chelsea has.


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kalani JR wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:
furiously frank wrote:
Is it me or Lampard sure has some serious white fragility and entitlement syndrome? Just watch his video responding to Raheem on his privilege vis a vis Sol Campbell and others. He got so defensive, talking about how he worked hard before becoming Chelsea coach. Dude, if you don’t think your whiteness, and privilege pave the way for you, then you are seriously lost. How many players from your generation that are black get to coach a world class team at this level? Like Drogba, Makalele, Ashley Coles are not as hardworking as you? Give me a break!

why only Lampard, who did assanal hire? they chose Mikel Arteta. whereas Sol Campbell was ignored


Arsenal has never fired a black manager, Chelsea has.

has assanal ever hired a black manager?

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Bigpokey24 wrote:
kalani JR wrote:
Bigpokey24 wrote:
furiously frank wrote:
Is it me or Lampard sure has some serious white fragility and entitlement syndrome? Just watch his video responding to Raheem on his privilege vis a vis Sol Campbell and others. He got so defensive, talking about how he worked hard before becoming Chelsea coach. Dude, if you don’t think your whiteness, and privilege pave the way for you, then you are seriously lost. How many players from your generation that are black get to coach a world class team at this level? Like Drogba, Makalele, Ashley Coles are not as hardworking as you? Give me a break!

why only Lampard, who did assanal hire? they chose Mikel Arteta. whereas Sol Campbell was ignored


Arsenal has never fired a black manager, Chelsea has.

has assanal ever hired a black manager?


They've never fired one, Chelsea on the other hand was only too happy to send another one on the dole.


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