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PSG game in Paris against Turkish side IBFK suspended; Teams walked off the field

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:52 pm 
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All kicked off. Watch UEFA try and sweep it under the carpet, “5 players tested positive for COVID-19 whilst zonal marking the Turks. In the interest of public safety, match abandoned”.


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Change your title please.

lol incident not about Demba Ba. Webo former Cameroonian international protested a call and the 4th ref. called over the central ref. When the central ref reached the sideline he asked the 4th who protested and the 4th ref said that niger over there. Webo went crazy and the 4th ref piled up again by pointing to Webo and saying the black man over there. Demba Ba got pissed off and asked all FIFA official if they ever refer to white men like "that white man over there why is it that he could not say the person over there?". When all 22 players came to the sideline and were told of the 4th ref language they walked off the pitch. Game will be played tomorrow with new refs.

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Well said by Shaka Hislop + Frank Leboeuf

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Now with no fan noise we get to hear how these folks really talk. They will take a knee, act like they support then call you an n-word when you piss them off. I hope the Romanian official is punished!

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joplass wrote:
Change your title please.

lol incident not about Demba Ba. Webo former Cameroonian international protested a call and the 4th ref. called over the central ref. When the central ref reached the sideline he asked the 4th who protested and the 4th ref said that niger over there. Webo went crazy and the 4th ref piled up again by pointing to Webo and saying the black man over there. Demba Ba got pissed off and asked all FIFA official if they ever refer to white men like "that white man over there why is it that he could not say the person over there?". When all 22 players came to the sideline and were told of the 4th ref language they walked off the pitch. Game will be played tomorrow with new refs.

Lets not change the story... All sources sources say he called Webo a "Negro" or "Negru", which is the Romanian word for black. The issue Ba raised was why his race was used to identify him. Soon enough, our use of the work oyinbo will be banned.

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Molue Conductor wrote:
joplass wrote:
Change your title please.

lol incident not about Demba Ba. Webo former Cameroonian international protested a call and the 4th ref. called over the central ref. When the central ref reached the sideline he asked the 4th who protested and the 4th ref said that niger over there. Webo went crazy and the 4th ref piled up again by pointing to Webo and saying the black man over there. Demba Ba got pissed off and asked all FIFA official if they ever refer to white men like "that white man over there why is it that he could not say the person over there?". When all 22 players came to the sideline and were told of the 4th ref language they walked off the pitch. Game will be played tomorrow with new refs.

Lets not change the story... All sources sources say he called Webo a "Negro" or "Negru", which is the Romanian word for black. The issue Ba raised was why his race was used to identify him. Soon enough, our use of the work oyinbo will be banned.

As with all things regarding race or stereotyping, context is the issue.

So using your example of Oyinbo, it sounds to me like how Latinos would use the word 'Gringo'.

These could be derogatory or merely descriptive. For a race that has been culturally and structurally denigrated it is a different context. So calling a Jewish person a Yid or Kike is derogatory. Yid is from Yiddish which should be descriptive but over the years its use in the culture has been in the context of harming another's sense of self.

Negro is as descriptive as Caucasian to denote race. However in another context because of it's close association with abuse, can be sensitive in a situation like this one.

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