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Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:19 am
by wiseone
Is the Hojlund transfer the end for Greenwood at Manchester United? Would the club spend about 70 million on a new striker of a similar age to Greenwood if Greenwood was in its future plans?

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:33 pm
by Coach
Charged or uncharged, United would face a barrage from sponsors and all sorts if they give Greenwood a go. Have Nike reinstated his contract? Have FIFA brought his avatar back in from the cold? If not, why not? His innocence has not been proved. If cocksure, call for a Goodwillie and prove your pecker. No pun intended.

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:50 am
by wiseone
Coach, then why have they not sold or loaned him, or fired him for breach of contract? If he is in the club’s plans, why have they not brought him back for pre-season training or included him in the US tour squad?

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:58 am
by wiseone

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:18 am
by Coach
wiseone wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:50 am Coach, then why have they not sold or loaned him, or fires him for breach of contract? If he is in the club’s plans, why have they not brought him back for pre-season training or included him in the US tour squad?
Wouldn’t be surprised if lawyers and legal teams have been heavily involved. Having not been charged Greenwood might have a case for wrongful dismissal if his contract’s terminated. But again, that sponsors etc have not reinstated him emphasises the conundrum United are facing.

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:37 am
by wiseone
Adidas has denied the reinstatement claims.

https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/adidas- ... e8b1dab835

Coach wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:18 am Wouldn’t be surprised if lawyers and legal teams have been heavily involved. Having not been charged Greenwood might have a case for wrongful dismissal if his contract’s terminated. But again, that sponsors etc have not reinstated him emphasises the conundrum United are facing.

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:46 pm
by Coach
^No one wants to be the first to play their card. United might present a package of support for women’s refuges, behavioural courses etc and assume the role of rehabilitator.

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:48 am
by wiseone

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:13 pm
by Sleaky72
United and Greenwood have parted ways

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:42 pm
by metalalloy
Coach wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:33 pm Charged or uncharged, United would face a barrage from sponsors and all sorts if they give Greenwood a go. Have Nike reinstated his contract? Have FIFA brought his avatar back in from the cold? If not, why not? His innocence has not been proved. If cocksure, call for a Goodwillie and prove your pecker. No pun intended.
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Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:44 pm
by benteke
Part of the full club statement from United is interesting

Manchester United has concluded its internal investigation into the allegations made against Mason Greenwood.

Our process commenced in February 2023, following all charges against Mason being dropped. Throughout, we have taken into account the wishes, rights and perspective of the alleged victim along with the club’s standards and values, and sought to collate as much information and context as possible.
This has required us to proceed with sensitivity and care to obtain evidence not in the public domain, including from those with direct knowledge of the case.

Based on the evidence available to us, we have concluded that the material posted online did not provide a full picture and that Mason did not commit the offences in respect of which he was originally charged. That said, as Mason publicly acknowledges today, he has made mistakes which he is taking responsibility for.

All those involved, including Mason, recognise the difficulties with him recommencing his career at Manchester United. It has therefore been mutually agreed that it would be most appropriate for him to do so away from Old Trafford, and we will now work with Mason to achieve that outcome.
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/m ... ugust-2023

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:03 pm
by wiseone

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:14 pm
by metalalloy
benteke wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:44 pm Part of the full club statement from United is interesting

Manchester United has concluded its internal investigation into the allegations made against Mason Greenwood.

Our process commenced in February 2023, following all charges against Mason being dropped. Throughout, we have taken into account the wishes, rights and perspective of the alleged victim along with the club’s standards and values, and sought to collate as much information and context as possible.
This has required us to proceed with sensitivity and care to obtain evidence not in the public domain, including from those with direct knowledge of the case.

Based on the evidence available to us, we have concluded that the material posted online did not provide a full picture and that Mason did not commit the offences in respect of which he was originally charged. That said, as Mason publicly acknowledges today, he has made mistakes which he is taking responsibility for.

All those involved, including Mason, recognise the difficulties with him recommencing his career at Manchester United. It has therefore been mutually agreed that it would be most appropriate for him to do so away from Old Trafford, and we will now work with Mason to achieve that outcome.
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/m ... ugust-2023
Seems they are hamstrung by uk laws that protect those who complain of certain sexual offenses. They really should have hired an outside third party to conduct the inquiry for them.

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:19 pm
by Coach
Inevitable outcome. Charged or uncharged, bearing down on a bloody faced damsel in distress bellowing “legs up”, is as incriminating as it gets. Will take a brave club to give him a go. Wrong image for the Saudis presumably, MLS too. Orlando Pirates perhaps, given SAs penchant for gender-based battery.

None but himself to blame.

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:43 pm
by Sleaky72
Coach wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:19 pm Inevitable outcome. Charged or uncharged, bearing down on a bloody faced damsel in distress bellowing “legs up”, is as incriminating as it gets. Will take a brave club to give him go. Wrong image for the Saudis presumably, MLS too. Orlando Pirates perhaps, given SAs penchant for gender-based battery.

None but himself to blame.
Coach if everyone videotaped their domestic disputes with their partner, especially at a young age, I doubt anyone would have a career. All these sanctimonious hypocrites can pound salt.

So it’s okay for Saudi to accept Ronaldo who admitted to forcing himself on a woman and paying for her silence compared to a kid who was found not guilty of any crimes, right? Makes no sense.

He should go to Saudi and make millions and smashes it

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:43 pm
by Coach
wiseone wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:50 am Coach, then why have they not sold or loaned him, or fired him for breach of contract? If he is in the club’s plans, why have they not brought him back for pre-season training or included him in the US tour squad?
:winking:

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:56 pm
by Coach
^^if everyone videoed their domestic disputes and the contents emulated any of what Greenwood’s video implied, then they would deserve Mason’s outcome. Charged or uncharged, he was videoed bearing down on a bloody faced damsel demanding “legs up”. Surely, Nigeria hasn’t left all so desensitised as to think this normal and acceptable behaviour?

If the Saudi’s step in, with their asterisk for gender inequality and female disempowerment, they would be threatening the very same image they seek to repair. There’s a commonsensical reason why United said “bye Felicia”, evidence. They have cleverly avoided a counter case by saying “he didn’t do it bla bla bla”, yet such is their conviction in that conclusion that they’ve told him to leave. Immediately.

Any club who dares will face a barrage from the brigade and rightly so. Only has himself to blame.

On the topic of Ronaldo, is there a video tape? Is there evidence that casts a shadow on his innocence. Out of court settlements are no more than out of court agreements. In many instances, a means to an ends. If there was a video of him in Greenwood pose, think his path would’ve skewed somewhat.

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:59 pm
by Coach
@MA, nothing to do with UK, Greenwood was not trialled, in effect, what law has he broken if all charges dropped? That’s not to say he hasn’t. In simplest terms, he’s now bad for business.

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:49 pm
by Sleaky72
Coach wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:56 pm ^^if everyone videoed their domestic disputes and the contents emulated any of what Greenwood’s video implied, then they would deserve Mason’s outcome. Charged or uncharged, he was videoed bearing down on a bloody faced damsel demanding “legs up”. Surely, Nigeria hasn’t left all so desensitised as to think this normal and acceptable behaviour?

If the Saudi’s step in, with their asterisk for gender inequality and female disempowerment, they would be threatening the very same image they seek to repair. There’s a commonsensical reason why United said “bye Felicia”, evidence. They have cleverly avoided a counter case by saying “he didn’t do it bla bla bla”, yet such is their conviction in that conclusion that they’ve told him to leave. Immediately.

Any club who dares will face a barrage from the brigade and rightly so. Only has himself to blame.

On the topic of Ronaldo, is there a video tape? Is there evidence that casts a shadow on his innocence. Out of court settlements are no more than out of court agreements. In many instances, a means to an ends. If there was a video of him in Greenwood pose, think his path would’ve skewed somewhat.
Erm there is a written statement where he admitted and apologized for being forceful in having intercourse with her and there is evidence of him paying for her silence … and trust me the Saudi could give a monkeys about western Woke rubbish ..:

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:51 pm
by Sleaky72
I always knew Greenwood was a talented lad but I’m really rooting for him to start a new life and career and shame all the bleeding heart hypocrites … he also needs to drop that girl

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:20 pm
by wiseone
Ahem
wiseone wrote: Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:19 am Is the Hojlund transfer the end for Greenwood at Manchester United? Would the club spend about 70 million on a new striker of a similar age to Greenwood if Greenwood was in its future plans?

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:21 pm
by wiseone
That is not likely to happen. They are engaged and she is pregnant 🤰 with his baby.
Sleaky72 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:51 pm I always knew Greenwood was a talented lad but I’m really rooting for him to start a new life and career and shame all the bleeding heart hypocrites … he also needs to drop that girl

Re: CPS Drops Charges Against Mason Greenwood

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:24 pm
by Coach
The very same written statement, the authenticity of which has been disputed, with multiple versions of said statement in existence. Which is which, needless to say are as compelling as video footage, clenched fist, claret and “legs up”, hence one had a splendid career at United and the other was sacked.

None to blame but himself.