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Leicester City must have better players than Arsenal, Spurs and Man City because they made QF of CL while those 3 did not.

Also your argument that Leicester city had more talented players last season than Everton this season is laughable but that's a topic for another thread. Nonetheless, the object of the game is to win. Its rare for a player to be voted best player in his league or in Europe when his club hasn't won any major trophy (League title or CL). The best players elevate their teams performance to title wining status. Be it football, basketball, etc. When you talk about the best, you discuss stats and trophies. The two are relevant and anything but subjective. And Kante is proven in this regard. He didn't just win top 4 trophy at Leicester but the league title. Moses is our boy but he isn't proven in that regard. In fact if you've been watching you'd know that its been a while since Moses had an exceptional performance. When was the last game Moses consistently got behind his marker en route to the 18? Its been a while. But Kante has been going from strength to strength picking up Motm awards left and right. You can also go to CFC blogs and read the post game votes. That's not subjective either. Anyway, since Gueye is so good, the least we should expect is the top 4 title from Everton. That shouldn't be too much to ask for.

By the way what is downfall or crisis mode? What downfall befell Arsenal, Spurs, CFC, ManU et al? Was Everton in crisis too? Why didn't they win the league when all the big dogs where in so called crisis? The 19 teams last season just collectively agreed to give up so that Leicester City will win and make Kante look good because it will make a heart warming story. That makes a lot of sense.

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Oh, yes he is. Guest is even more consistent than Kante. The only time he didn't perform this season was straight after the AFCON which is understandable.

The argument is as pointless as it is selfdefeating. Leicester have the better team and tactics that work for this set of players. Rainer messed up when hechanged the tactics.



So your argument remains that Kante is better player because his team is better. Whatever.

Comparing Kante to Wanyama is like comparing a sleek car to a 4WD jeep. Kante is the sleek car, Wanyama is the jeep..only good for rough terrain..while Kante can cope with both rough and smooth.

Seriously nothing to compare,two different kind of players the only similarity is that both do not have oyinbo names.

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Egbon Oloye, this ya analogy get as he be but I'll oblige you. Wanyama is a 4w drive that has speed and power. He can go on all game and outmuscle any player while still possessing the speed of a Porsche .

Kante is a long distance vehicle that never seems to run out of petrol on one tank. He's like a rally car or a 24h Lamond racing car. But when it comes to raw power and terrain suited for a 4wheel drive, he'll have to give way small.

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Marutimon, sorry but you come across as someone who's jealous that Gueye is barely being mentioned in the same breath as Kante by pundits or what have you. A massive reason is due to the performance of Kante's current team. If they were languishing in 10th place or outside top 4, Kante wouldn't receive anywhere as much applause. Everton, on the other hand are exactly where they've always been: in and around the top 6 and most definitely out of the top 4. Whether they had Gueye or no Gueye there's no difference. You can usually guess where they will finish: anywhere between 7th up to 5th. So you tell me the impact of Gueye? Whereas Kante took a team, Leicester, that before the season started most bet that they would get relegated and won the league. He left and they slipped back into relegation zone. The current change in fortune is likely due to initial bump from a change in manager but we don't know how long it will last. But realistically, a good if not amazing season for Leicester is finishing as high as 8th or even 7th and wining a domestic cup. Not even close to Everton in any way - except for doing the unthinkable last season for which Kante can claim a massive role in ... something unfortunately that Gueye hasn't done. He couldn't even lead his country - star studded team and all - to win a nations cup when most of the ANC big dogs were in real crisis mode.

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yeye Forestman..the moment dey mention terrain the visuals of the Ijebu Jungle hopped right into ya mind eh?


..oya..bushman..which one U go pick?

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I remember seeing a quote from Makelele to the effect that Kante
needs to add 'leadership' to the repertoire before he can be
acknowledged as an elite player. That weekend, Kante scored
the only goal that advanced chelsea past Man U in the FA Cup
quarter finals.

In about two months, when Chelsea has won the league and
Kante wins a bunch of individual honours, let us have this
debate again.

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You heard the sound of a merry bell
Those who were rash and those who were not
Lost and made a spot of cash
He who gave the game away
May he Brynn in hell and rue the day

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Truth be told ..last season when Leicester was doing it I wasn't watching them much but my pals who did kept talking about Kante..and this was even before December...the talk was that Kante allowed The Algerian and others to do their thing.....this season @ Everton all we hear is Lukaku..didn't know much about Gueye until mentioned in this thread...but now I go watch the guy..especially when we jam Everton again in the return leg

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MISSION STATEMENT:To help Middle America’s families identify and resolve
critical financial matters that they have not addressed
and of which they may not even be aware

I KNOW MY FOOTBALL!!!!!
You have eyes, use it!-Robbynice,2011
CLUBS: CHELSEA FC, 3SC IBADAN.

There is only one way to find out. Ship out Wanyama to Chelsea so we can see who chops bench.

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MISSION STATEMENT:To help Middle America’s families identify and resolve
critical financial matters that they have not addressed
and of which they may not even be aware

I KNOW MY FOOTBALL!!!!!
You have eyes, use it!-Robbynice,2011
CLUBS: CHELSEA FC, 3SC IBADAN.

matic and fabregas

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Oya back to the matter
open and close

No need, just rewind to the beat down at the Lane

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At that point, offers will be accepted for Matic. Fab will still be needed. There will be some games where Fab's brilliance will be needed.

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kai that was funny

When will be a chinese club come and offer money for Matic I am waiting for the summer

When i got here,i said to myself this has got to be Spurs fan,then i looked up to see the avatar ...voila i was right

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"There is big pressure at this club as you cannot be like the manager at Arsenal and ask for five years to try and to win one trophy" - Jose Mourinho

.... I believe in God. I try to be a good man so He can have a bit of time to give me a hand when I need it - Jose Mourinho

You guys are comparing "guguru and epah". Wanyama is like a wildebeest jumping into a river full of crocs during migration in Masai-Mara

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Stop touching little boys you cretinous imbecile.

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E be like sey that one pain you small...

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I put this argument up on my whatsapp group...people are asking who Gueye is and which club he plays for

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MISSION STATEMENT:To help Middle America’s families identify and resolve
critical financial matters that they have not addressed
and of which they may not even be aware

I KNOW MY FOOTBALL!!!!!
You have eyes, use it!-Robbynice,2011
CLUBS: CHELSEA FC, 3SC IBADAN.

Is that the group for the brainless drug abusers and you wonder why they ask? Go ahead ask them their names? I bet they're too stoned to remember

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Actually Gueye is being mentioned a lot by pundits in categories such as:
- best buy of the season (a mere 7 mln)
- best midfielders in Europe and/or England
- best tackler in Europe
- best DM in Europe and/or England

And there have been a whole lot of comparisons made by pundits comparing Gueye to Kante. Also - unlike Ndidi or Wanyama - Gueye is essentially the same type of player as Kante.

Just put in "Gueye Kante" into google. You get a whole lot of people comparing Gueye to Kante, amongst them:
Steve Walsh (the guy who brought Kante to Leicester): When asked who could be the next Kante, Walsh told the Times: “I’ve already found him,” speaking of Gueye.



Again - blaiming an individual for the shortcomings of the team. Your argument is going around in circles: Gueye is not as good because his team and his team tactics aren't as good as Kante's.

Leicester slipped back into relegation zone, because Ranieri stopped playing his team like last season. Since Shakespeare took over, reverted the team back to last season's tactics and replaced Kante with Ndidi his record is surprisingly familiar to last season: four wins in a row, no losses, no draws, 11 goals scored. This includes wins over Sevilla, Liverpool and West Ham away.

All of a sudden Kante doesn't seem to be missing any more.