Cybereagles

What has Oloye said that is new to warrant such a strong response? It is those who have their heads buried in the sand that try to deny this happens. Any news from/about Rohr is turned into a FC v LC debate. It is so tiresome. There are CEs who are happy that the SE lost because we have a fc in charge and they even opened a laughing thread on Nigeria's loss to SA on CE, a SE supporters forum! Talk of madness!!Except you live in cuckoo land, CEs have no input as to who coaches the SE and their venom should be directed at the NFF.

Bia oga Gotti i am struggling to understand what you are trying to say here...is this your version of a fake news? The last time i checked i am still in Ireland....never mind becoming an agent..if na joke i am struggling to catch it biko.

Mine take here was not to verify a fake news or not, the simple truth here is agents swarm around the national team ,their intentions being to further interests of their clients, it happen under both fc and lc...Rohr if he indeed made those statements is not saying anything new. This is one of the menace coaches of the national teams...include the age grades have to contend with.

But not to bribe coaches. And certainly not to use compromised journos to pressure the coaches.

Some contend with it, like Oliseh. Some others partake in it. But overall its nothing new.

Even the slew of characters who support this have remained the same on CE. The only thing that has evolved is their rationale. Now its fake news

In Nigeria, the coaches of the national teams have a lot to contend with and one of the biggest problems is the compromised brown envelope journalists. Oliseh complained about journos who promised to give him a hard time because he did not give them the team line-up before it was officially announced. The worst type is those journos who collect money from players to promote them and pile pressure on national team coaches to invite them. The going rate now is $200 per story and one player who indulges in that is an Israeli based midfielder. This is a player who failed in Spain with Almeria (where Azeez succeeded) and Academica in Portugal (where Obiorah Nwankwo had plenty of playing time) before moving to Israel where he has had modest success. His name is always touted by journalists whenever invitations are about to be made. In the recent SA match, various journalists who attended training reported he was the best player in camp only for him not be included in the match day squad! Some journos have even gone ahead to blame the loss on his absence, as if he had ever done anything meaningful in the few times he has suited up for the SE. This is a major challenge the SE coach has to deal with.

Bros, my point could not be simpler...
Putting down criticism as the work of disgruntled agents implies that critics like Oloye is a disgruntled agent.

Again, the real danger here is that instead of paying attention to genuinely constructive criticism (e.g., why the high balls to small forwards against taller defenders, a glaring lack of leadership and experience on the field, was Ihenacho or Iwobi or Etebo optimally utilized, etc), let's blanket all criticism as the bile of bitter agents and carry on as if everything is honky dory.

We can say that the man Rohr is looking for excuses, but it does not rule out the truth about the activities of agents around the national teams. Notice i used teams to imply it affects all the teams and not just Rohr.

Now we may lambast Rohr for looking for cheap excuses ,but does that negate what he is saying about the agents? To be honest i can't be bothered with Rohr, the SE or the NFF, i no longer understand what is going on and my passion for the national team has waned considerably, but the fact remains the menace of agents can pose and has posed a major distraction to the coaches. Now maybe our Rohr should have raised this alarm before the loss...that way he wont be seen as making baseless and lame excuses!

We can say that the man Rohr is looking for excuses, but it does not rule out the truth about the activities of agents around the national teams. Notice i used teams to imply it affects all the teams and not just Rohr.

Now we may lambast Rohr for looking for cheap excuses ,but does that negate what he is saying about the agents? To be honest i can't be bothered with Rohr, the SE or the NFF, i no longer understand what is going on and my passion for the national team has waned considerably, but the fact remains the menace of agents can pose and has posed a major distraction to the coaches. Now maybe our Rohr should have raised this alarm before the loss...that way he wont be seen as making baseless and lame excuses!

Your points are crystal clear for anyone who seeks to focus on the realities of the SE. Sadly for some it has to be an FC/LC debate for them to have relevancy on CE.

Dude, if you want to call out John Ogu, abegi do so without resorting to childish imputations...

Don't know the dude from can of beans, but his ON-FIELD performance over the last two seasons most definitely EARNED him national team consideration - frankly more that the likes of Uche Agbo, Tyrone Ebuehi, Moses Simon and even that Seabreeze (sp) character! And John did not just enjoy "moderate" success in Israel - he enjoyed GREAT success, in addition to solid displays in the Europa League Cup against some very good European top-tier league sides. The attempt to minimize and discredit his SE call-up is frankly disgraceful and dispecable. And the imputation that Rohr bowed to the pressure of supposedly 'compromised' journalists to invite him and to CONTINUE to recall him ironically says even less of Rohr. SMDH

But not to bribe coaches. And certainly not to use compromised journos to pressure the coaches.

GEEZER, i have left it to the discerning but it is your headache i you want to mention the name of the player who enjoyed great success in the highly rated Israeli league. I suppose that is the standard that SE players should aspire to. Not everyone reasons like you and I know you support for the SE is dependent on whether the coach is local or foreign and you think you are clever but i can see through you. I will always support the SE irrespective of who the coach is but I will withdraw my support for any coach who is dishonest with his selections whether they are FC or LC. I know that you are ready to cut off your nose to spite your face because the SE have a FC. You are not a true fan of our national team. Your cohorts like the neanderthal zee opened up a laughing thread on the SE after the loss to South Africa and you tried to call them to order but they told you to feck off! That is the Frankenstein monster that you have created and I had a good laugh.

I don't understand your posts and attack on John Ogu. Dude played European football and had very good games against European competition.

He was not fielded against SA. We lost at home. So whose fault is it? The guy who didn't play or the coach who played "better" players?

Why don't you guys blame the coach? Blaming the coach for poor tactics, poor strategy, poor players selection does not make you less of a SE fan.

HE MUST DO BETTER!

You guys won't blackmail people into accepting low standards for the SE simply because dude is oyibo. The same slack you did not give local coaches. Some of you actually preferred to lose than win with local coaches.

Which SE fan won't be embarrassed losing to South Africa on home soil?

The problem of you and your ilks is that you are fixated on the colour of the SE coach. I am more interested in the integrity of the coach whether local or foreign! When we had a coach making all kinds of dubious invitations to the SE, you were quiet. You and your cohorts are enablers, hear no evil see no evil and you turn everything into a FC v LC debate. Forget the the nationality of the coach and support your country, or is that too hard to do? Criticize the coach if you have to but forget whether he is oyinbo or dudu!

In Nigeria, the coaches of the national teams have a lot to contend with and one of the biggest problems is the compromised brown envelope journalists. Oliseh complained about journos who promised to give him a hard time because he did not give them the team line-up before it was officially announced. The worst type is those journos who collect money from players to promote them and pile pressure on national team coaches to invite them. The going rate now is $200 per story and one player who indulges in that is an Israeli based midfielder. This is a player who failed in Spain with Almeria (where Azeez succeeded) and Academica in Portugal (where Obiorah Nwankwo had plenty of playing time) before moving to Israel where he has had modest success. His name is always touted by journalists whenever invitations are about to be made. In the recent SA match, various journalists who attended training reported he was the best player in camp only for him not be included in the match day squad! Some journos have even gone ahead to blame the loss on his absence, as if he had ever done anything meaningful in the few times he has suited up for the SE. This is a major challenge the SE coach has to deal with.

Where is he now sef?

Na wah for unfulfilled expectations. He was supposed to be it.

Still with Almeria I believe, I think NT footie came too early for him way before he was ready. Hopefully he can bounce back.

I don't understand your posts and attack on John Ogu. Dude played European football and had very good games against European competition.

He was not fielded against SA. We lost at home. So whose fault is it? The guy who didn't play or the coach who played "better" players?

Why don't you guys blame the coach? Blaming the coach for poor tactics, poor strategy, poor players selection does not make you less of a SE fan.

HE MUST DO BETTER!

You guys won't blackmail people into accepting low standards for the SE simply because dude is oyibo. The same slack you did not give local coaches. Some of you actually preferred to lose than win with local coaches.

Which SE fan won't be embarrassed losing to South Africa on home soil?

Still with Almeria I believe, I think NT footie came too early for him way before he was ready. Hopefully he can bounce back.

Cell, thanks a bunch for saving me the bother of having to respond to drivel...
Like I said, the fact that Rohr CONTINUALLY invites a supposedly unworthy Ogu is an ironic INDICTMENT!

Please who are the players that were pushed/imposed on him? Nna, I am more focused on the actual tactics deployed. Even the strategy is suspect.
Watching the game, I kept seeing the same deficiencies from previous games...

Anyway, we better pray that VicMo is healthy and available as he seems to hide the obvious deficiencies of the TEAM PLAY.

I think some of you are mixing things up; in some cases deliberately.

There are no excuses for the loss. Secondly, the only thing different between the last two home games is that one opponent took its chances. The basic defensive structure and organization of the SE in the non-possession phase under Rohr is slip shod...

The issue on this here thread is about bribery and attempted bribery of NT coaches. An incontrovertible fact...

I think some of you are mixing things up; in some cases deliberately.

There are no excuses for the loss. Secondly, the only thing different between the last two home games is that one opponent took its chances. The basic defensive structure and organization of the SE in the non-possession phase under Rohr is slip shod...

The issue on this here thread is about bribery and attempted bribery of NT coaches. An incontrovertible fact...