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I am surprised that Marcus Edwards hasn't been included on this trip. Hasn't he recovered from his injury?
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I am gunner. and I still like this current spurs team more than ours. To think you guys spend much much less on wages. FML
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I believe there is a pact among the players to try and do something unique and special. They all recognize they can earn significantly more elsewhere but that may not ultimately lead to glory. With the progress they have made over the last 2 seasons I believe gives them the confidence to know they will ultimately reach the pinnacle. All the interviews I've read so far from the players indicate they do not really want to add a big name into their midst. They know and trust each other and want to win together that's why they quickly disassociated with Kyle Walker immediately he left for City.[color=brown]amafolas[/color] wrote: I am gunner. and I still like this current spurs team more than ours. To think you guys spend much much less on wages. FML
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hmmm... see as your mouth just dey sweet. We all saw the interview of Danny Rose. I am sure you saw it.Its a Goal wrote:I believe there is a pact among the players to try and do something unique and special. They all recognize they can earn significantly more elsewhere but that may not ultimately lead to glory. With the progress they have made over the last 2 seasons I believe gives them the confidence to know they will ultimately reach the pinnacle.[color=brown]amafolas[/color] wrote: I am gunner. and I still like this current spurs team more than ours. To think you guys spend much much less on wages. FML
From second to third is not progress. Thats regress.
All the interviews I've read so far from the players indicate they do not really want to add a big name into their midst. They know and trust each other and want to win together that's why they quickly disassociated with Kyle Walker immediately he left for City.
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Isn't KWP a RB? Why is he playing LB? Come to think of it who is backing Ben Davis up?
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The club knows we need a RB/LB. We are weak in that position manpower wise. Rose is injured. KWP can back up in both positions. I only hope the German FB that we are linked with isnt an attempt by his agent to force a contract with Hoffenheim. The dude is in the last year of his contract.
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Apparently no contact from Spurs, according to an article quoting his agent. Besides, young Germans rarely leave their shores to play elsewhere, very few make the move.Cristao II wrote:The club knows we need a RB/LB. We are weak in that position manpower wise. Rose is injured. KWP can back up in both positions. I only hope the German FB that we are linked with isnt an attempt by his agent to force a contract with Hoffenheim. The dude is in the last year of his contract.
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They only need to pay £7mil for Toljan otherwise Bayern could snap him up...
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No one is talking about Jassen's goal? He took it well. Hopefully he can kick off from here
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I prefer to talk about the losspajimoh wrote:No one is talking about Jassen's goal? He took it well. Hopefully he can kick off from here
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kenmega wrote:They only need to pay £7mil for Toljan otherwise Bayern could snap him up...
Clubs like Man U and Chelsea won't be interested until his worth quadruples.
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‘My question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
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So in essence, Spuds is a wee tiny club with wee tiny ambition and/or expectations?anikulapo wrote:‘My question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
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https://twitter.com/Nigerianscamsss/sta ... 3485818881pajimoh wrote:Abeg leave Spurs out of this one. We have expectations and would like to win the leaque. You coming here and making it seems like we just roll with the days and lack ambition is typically WAFIMANISM - ALL HOT AIRWaffiman wrote:For years, Arsenal were mocked and placed under pressure. Spuds don't have to deal with any such pressure. If Spuds came under the same pressure, they will crumble. The press are already making the excuses for Spurs, but Wenger was vilified for adopting the same strategy of not spending money the club did not have.Cito wrote:This is the point I made in one of Spurs' game thread and Cristao said I was wrong. Holding unto a player is hard as is especially for a club in the class of Arsenal and Spurs without sugar daddy. When you add the mad market coupled with Stadium building venture, you face an uphill battle to pay 'competitive' wage.pajimoh wrote:Walker is 27 and Trippier makes his sale less painful. Clubs cannot keep the players that want out but you can get top money for them. Unfortunately this is the way things are now. That I why the new stadium and the ability to pay top mo ey is important otherwise you just have to define your ambitions - get into Europe my making top four, buy cheap and sell high. If you win something then it's a bonus. Clubs are spending over 300m on defence alone when a team I the premiership don't even cost that much.
In as much as I try to make fun of Spurs, I think they are unto the right blend of a coach with mindset of young players infusion, Levy with the right attitude and skillful(solid) players who seem to like each other. The young players will do well if introduced early enough but there will always be that growing pain associated with the jump.
Do you remember how the press made it a huge thing and it was all over the net when Arsenal went all those years without winning a trophy? Spuds and a Liverpool have gone way beyond the time period Arsenal did, but do you hear a word from them? I certainly do not hear a thing from CEs who jumped on the bandwagon then about Spuds or Pool.
Conte, telling it like it is. Pa Jimoh, do you remember when I made this point on another thread?
Pa Jimoh. How body?‘My question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
Conte is not the only one, let's face facts, expectation levels at Spuds don't match the levels at the top clubs. Never have, never will.
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Spot on.Cito wrote:So in essence, Spuds is a wee tiny club with wee tiny ambition and/or expectations?anikulapo wrote:‘My question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
See Shade from Conte at TOTO
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An Arsenal fan who likes Spuds team more than Arsenal's. Only on CE.amafolas wrote:I am gunner. and I still like this current spurs team more than ours. To think you guys spend much much less on wages. FML
On wage bill. Arsenal spent much less on wages than Spuds and some other clubs in the league, and they won the Double in 1997/98. Fact!
When Arsenal were virtually bankrupt due to Emirates project costs but came 2nd, 3rd and 4th for season after season. Despite spending far less than its competitors on wages and transfers, not one word of praise from you, instead you criticised Wenger and the club.
Spuds have out performed wage resources twice in 2 seasons, but Wenger has been matching, and at most times out performing wage resources in over 20 years but he got no credit, instead he is criticised and vilified. But Spuds done it twice, won nothing, are the greatest thing since sliced bread.
BTW! Even when Wenger finished out of the top 4, he still matched wages to league position. Liverpool, ManU, City and Chelski all spent more than Arsenal. But the response is; Wenger is rubbish at tactics, Wenger is rubbish at everything. 'Wenger Out'.
See proof of Liverpool's wage bill, you asked for.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/fo ... 5-12700881
Liverpool above should be a lesson in this league. Before we start singing Spuds praises, let us see if they can sustain their wage bill and maintain a top 4 position for a duration of time.
Spuds are getting praises for all the things Arsenal were rudiculed for. E.g. Spuds getting praises in the press for not spending money, but Wenger and Arsenal got murders.
Oh! What has Spuds won? Yet you like them better than a team that won a major trophy.
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Ironically, I made the same points when discussing with our resident spurs fans.Waffiman wrote:https://twitter.com/Nigerianscamsss/sta ... 3485818881pajimoh wrote:Abeg leave Spurs out of this one. We have expectations and would like to win the leaque. You coming here and making it seems like we just roll with the days and lack ambition is typically WAFIMANISM - ALL HOT AIRWaffiman wrote:For years, Arsenal were mocked and placed under pressure. Spuds don't have to deal with any such pressure. If Spuds came under the same pressure, they will crumble. The press are already making the excuses for Spurs, but Wenger was vilified for adopting the same strategy of not spending money the club did not have.Cito wrote:This is the point I made in one of Spurs' game thread and Cristao said I was wrong. Holding unto a player is hard as is especially for a club in the class of Arsenal and Spurs without sugar daddy. When you add the mad market coupled with Stadium building venture, you face an uphill battle to pay 'competitive' wage.pajimoh wrote:Walker is 27 and Trippier makes his sale less painful. Clubs cannot keep the players that want out but you can get top money for them. Unfortunately this is the way things are now. That I why the new stadium and the ability to pay top mo ey is important otherwise you just have to define your ambitions - get into Europe my making top four, buy cheap and sell high. If you win something then it's a bonus. Clubs are spending over 300m on defence alone when a team I the premiership don't even cost that much.
In as much as I try to make fun of Spurs, I think they are unto the right blend of a coach with mindset of young players infusion, Levy with the right attitude and skillful(solid) players who seem to like each other. The young players will do well if introduced early enough but there will always be that growing pain associated with the jump.
Do you remember how the press made it a huge thing and it was all over the net when Arsenal went all those years without winning a trophy? Spuds and a Liverpool have gone way beyond the time period Arsenal did, but do you hear a word from them? I certainly do not hear a thing from CEs who jumped on the bandwagon then about Spuds or Pool.
Conte, telling it like it is. Pa Jimoh, do you remember when I made this point on another thread?
Pa Jimoh. How body?‘My question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
Conte is not the only one, let's face facts, expectation levels at Spuds don't match the levels at the top clubs. Never have, never will.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=277651&hilit=Spurs+ ... n&start=46
My relevant quote from that link :
it's unreasonable or unfair for a Spurs fan to poke at a Pep, or Jose etc knowing fully well that their expectation and target is not in Spurs expectation level. Can Spurs win the league? Yes they can. Are they expected? No. If Pooch finishes second or third what will happen? Pat on the back. Neither Pep nor Jose are afforded that luxury. The media will come down hard on them one way or another. So its the proverbial apples and oranges situation. Again, money is irrelevant to the discourse because every ambitious club requires the manager to buy big players whether they like it or not. More apples vs oranges. If Pooch goes to ManU he will spend 100M+ in one window whether he wants to or not. It's what it is. And he will be required to win the league. In that scenario, second place won't work.
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Have you read what their Chairman said about Academy players? I responded in this thread.green4life wrote:Ironically, I made the same points when discussing with our resident spurs fans.Waffiman wrote:https://twitter.com/Nigerianscamsss/sta ... 3485818881pajimoh wrote:Abeg leave Spurs out of this one. We have expectations and would like to win the leaque. You coming here and making it seems like we just roll with the days and lack ambition is typically WAFIMANISM - ALL HOT AIRWaffiman wrote:For years, Arsenal were mocked and placed under pressure. Spuds don't have to deal with any such pressure. If Spuds came under the same pressure, they will crumble. The press are already making the excuses for Spurs, but Wenger was vilified for adopting the same strategy of not spending money the club did not have.Cito wrote:This is the point I made in one of Spurs' game thread and Cristao said I was wrong. Holding unto a player is hard as is especially for a club in the class of Arsenal and Spurs without sugar daddy. When you add the mad market coupled with Stadium building venture, you face an uphill battle to pay 'competitive' wage.pajimoh wrote:Walker is 27 and Trippier makes his sale less painful. Clubs cannot keep the players that want out but you can get top money for them. Unfortunately this is the way things are now. That I why the new stadium and the ability to pay top mo ey is important otherwise you just have to define your ambitions - get into Europe my making top four, buy cheap and sell high. If you win something then it's a bonus. Clubs are spending over 300m on defence alone when a team I the premiership don't even cost that much.
In as much as I try to make fun of Spurs, I think they are unto the right blend of a coach with mindset of young players infusion, Levy with the right attitude and skillful(solid) players who seem to like each other. The young players will do well if introduced early enough but there will always be that growing pain associated with the jump.
Do you remember how the press made it a huge thing and it was all over the net when Arsenal went all those years without winning a trophy? Spuds and a Liverpool have gone way beyond the time period Arsenal did, but do you hear a word from them? I certainly do not hear a thing from CEs who jumped on the bandwagon then about Spuds or Pool.
Conte, telling it like it is. Pa Jimoh, do you remember when I made this point on another thread?
Pa Jimoh. How body?‘My question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
Conte is not the only one, let's face facts, expectation levels at Spuds don't match the levels at the top clubs. Never have, never will.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=277651&hilit=Spurs+ ... n&start=46
My relevant quote from that link :it's unreasonable or unfair for a Spurs fan to poke at a Pep, or Jose etc knowing fully well that their expectation and target is not in Spurs expectation level. Can Spurs win the league? Yes they can. Are they expected? No. If Pooch finishes second or third what will happen? Pat on the back. Neither Pep nor Jose are afforded that luxury. The media will come down hard on them one way or another. So its the proverbial apples and oranges situation. Again, money is irrelevant to the discourse because every ambitious club requires the manager to buy big players whether they like it or not. More apples vs oranges. If Pooch goes to ManU he will spend 100M+ in one window whether he wants to or not. It's what it is. And he will be required to win the league. In that scenario, second place won't work.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=281431&start=69
As we have seen with Arsenal, 3 major trophies in 4 years and not being able to compete financially with 3 of the direct competition is not enough to save Wenger from expectations and pressure.
Trust me, the easiest thing is being able to contend for the title without expectation and pressure. Whenever they have had to perform under a bit of pressure in the last 2 seasons, this Spuds team has crumbled in the League and FA Cup.
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See haters all sheiiiting themselves thinking about what Spurs could do. Conte did not think about Spurs expectation at the beginning of last season until he realized we are a threat to his title ambitions after all the others had fallen away and he started playing games.
The reality of the matter is this - those who have spent millions trying to bridge the gap of what they should have built overtime would have to demand quick results for their cash. Isn't it why the Arsenal board tolerated Arsene for so long? I really think most of you are incapable of being sincere most of the time. If Spurs was trying to buy the title and spends close to a billion then you'd have a different pressure.
Those that say Spurs were not under pressure - When you see how the lads played last season, trying to win every game and hoping Chelsea falter somewhere then you'll know they are under pressure. We've been told how if we don't win anything the team would be reaped apart. It seems others think the owners, the handlers and the fans are not aware of this so there is no pressure.
Everyone is under a different pressure. It's so sweet of Conte not to talk about the huge advantage the ability to spend millions to buy players that makes his job and ambition easier than Poch who had to do the same overs years but only point out the pressure spending brings.
Conte has a choice, stop spending big. Be a Watford or Blackpool in their spending and lets see whether he won't e under a different kind of pressure.
As someone once said "life is hard for both the poor and the rich but I'd rather be rich in this hard life". It is a lot more pressure trying to make the little work for you than going to buy your way out.
The reality of the matter is this - those who have spent millions trying to bridge the gap of what they should have built overtime would have to demand quick results for their cash. Isn't it why the Arsenal board tolerated Arsene for so long? I really think most of you are incapable of being sincere most of the time. If Spurs was trying to buy the title and spends close to a billion then you'd have a different pressure.
Those that say Spurs were not under pressure - When you see how the lads played last season, trying to win every game and hoping Chelsea falter somewhere then you'll know they are under pressure. We've been told how if we don't win anything the team would be reaped apart. It seems others think the owners, the handlers and the fans are not aware of this so there is no pressure.
Everyone is under a different pressure. It's so sweet of Conte not to talk about the huge advantage the ability to spend millions to buy players that makes his job and ambition easier than Poch who had to do the same overs years but only point out the pressure spending brings.
Conte has a choice, stop spending big. Be a Watford or Blackpool in their spending and lets see whether he won't e under a different kind of pressure.
As someone once said "life is hard for both the poor and the rich but I'd rather be rich in this hard life". It is a lot more pressure trying to make the little work for you than going to buy your way out.
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A typical goon interpretation without analyzing the facts. You Sa we crumble under pressure.Waffiman wrote:Have you read what their Chairman said about Academy players? I responded in this thread.green4life wrote:Ironically, I made the same points when discussing with our resident spurs fans.Waffiman wrote:https://twitter.com/Nigerianscamsss/sta ... 3485818881pajimoh wrote:Abeg leave Spurs out of this one. We have expectations and would like to win the leaque. You coming here and making it seems like we just roll with the days and lack ambition is typically WAFIMANISM - ALL HOT AIRWaffiman wrote:For years, Arsenal were mocked and placed under pressure. Spuds don't have to deal with any such pressure. If Spuds came under the same pressure, they will crumble. The press are already making the excuses for Spurs, but Wenger was vilified for adopting the same strategy of not spending money the club did not have.Cito wrote:This is the point I made in one of Spurs' game thread and Cristao said I was wrong. Holding unto a player is hard as is especially for a club in the class of Arsenal and Spurs without sugar daddy. When you add the mad market coupled with Stadium building venture, you face an uphill battle to pay 'competitive' wage.pajimoh wrote:Walker is 27 and Trippier makes his sale less painful. Clubs cannot keep the players that want out but you can get top money for them. Unfortunately this is the way things are now. That I why the new stadium and the ability to pay top mo ey is important otherwise you just have to define your ambitions - get into Europe my making top four, buy cheap and sell high. If you win something then it's a bonus. Clubs are spending over 300m on defence alone when a team I the premiership don't even cost that much.
In as much as I try to make fun of Spurs, I think they are unto the right blend of a coach with mindset of young players infusion, Levy with the right attitude and skillful(solid) players who seem to like each other. The young players will do well if introduced early enough but there will always be that growing pain associated with the jump.
Do you remember how the press made it a huge thing and it was all over the net when Arsenal went all those years without winning a trophy? Spuds and a Liverpool have gone way beyond the time period Arsenal did, but do you hear a word from them? I certainly do not hear a thing from CEs who jumped on the bandwagon then about Spuds or Pool.
Conte, telling it like it is. Pa Jimoh, do you remember when I made this point on another thread?
Pa Jimoh. How body?‘My question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
Conte is not the only one, let's face facts, expectation levels at Spuds don't match the levels at the top clubs. Never have, never will.
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My relevant quote from that link :it's unreasonable or unfair for a Spurs fan to poke at a Pep, or Jose etc knowing fully well that their expectation and target is not in Spurs expectation level. Can Spurs win the league? Yes they can. Are they expected? No. If Pooch finishes second or third what will happen? Pat on the back. Neither Pep nor Jose are afforded that luxury. The media will come down hard on them one way or another. So its the proverbial apples and oranges situation. Again, money is irrelevant to the discourse because every ambitious club requires the manager to buy big players whether they like it or not. More apples vs oranges. If Pooch goes to ManU he will spend 100M+ in one window whether he wants to or not. It's what it is. And he will be required to win the league. In that scenario, second place won't work.
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As we have seen with Arsenal, 3 major trophies in 4 years and not being able to compete financially with 3 of the direct competition is not enough to save Wenger from expectations and pressure.
Trust me, the easiest thing is being able to contend for the title without expectation and pressure. Whenever they have had to perform under a bit of pressure in the last 2 seasons, this Spuds team has crumbled in the League and FA Cup.
When you have a team like Chelsea that can still call on 40m strikers, midfielders and defenders towards the tail end of the season or to replace another injured player, that obviously hides the fatigue and the inability to sustain the same level of performance with a team like Spurs relying on a few core all season.
Everybody keep singing this "crack under pressure" song yet they tell us we are an injury to Kane, Alli or one of our defenders, away from falling-off the title race.
I don't need anyone of you to tell me Spurs is trying very hard to win the title with the pressure of making the little they have go a long way. It is the way of things now that we put down those who make a go of the little they have as lacking ambition or working under less pressure.
Money can take off a lot of pressure just like not having it can make every little thing pressure packed.
I'm sure if you were talking about Arsenal you'd point out how with the tight squad you have, Kane missed 3 months, Lamela the whole season, Rose practically over half the season and the likes of Jan and Toby both out at the same time for spells. Yet the team chased, more than others who have a decent bench of millionaire stars. Keep sendingnging how we crack under pressure if it helps you as a goon
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Re: Spurs 2017/2018 Season: Levy fortifying Team
It is interesting how all eyes are on Spurs. At the end of the day, we are all going to play 38 matches and whoever the first is will be the winner.
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Re: Spurs 2017/2018 Season: Levy fortifying Team
pajimoh wrote:A typical goon interpretation without analyzing the facts. You Sa we crumble under pressure.Waffiman wrote:Have you read what their Chairman said about Academy players? I responded in this thread.green4life wrote:Ironically, I made the same points when discussing with our resident spurs fans.Waffiman wrote:https://twitter.com/Nigerianscamsss/sta ... 3485818881pajimoh wrote:Abeg leave Spurs out of this one. We have expectations and would like to win the leaque. You coming here and making it seems like we just roll with the days and lack ambition is typically WAFIMANISM - ALL HOT AIRWaffiman wrote:For years, Arsenal were mocked and placed under pressure. Spuds don't have to deal with any such pressure. If Spuds came under the same pressure, they will crumble. The press are already making the excuses for Spurs, but Wenger was vilified for adopting the same strategy of not spending money the club did not have.Cito wrote:
This is the point I made in one of Spurs' game thread and Cristao said I was wrong. Holding unto a player is hard as is especially for a club in the class of Arsenal and Spurs without sugar daddy. When you add the mad market coupled with Stadium building venture, you face an uphill battle to pay 'competitive' wage.
In as much as I try to make fun of Spurs, I think they are unto the right blend of a coach with mindset of young players infusion, Levy with the right attitude and skillful(solid) players who seem to like each other. The young players will do well if introduced early enough but there will always be that growing pain associated with the jump.
Do you remember how the press made it a huge thing and it was all over the net when Arsenal went all those years without winning a trophy? Spuds and a Liverpool have gone way beyond the time period Arsenal did, but do you hear a word from them? I certainly do not hear a thing from CEs who jumped on the bandwagon then about Spuds or Pool.
Conte, telling it like it is. Pa Jimoh, do you remember when I made this point on another thread?
Pa Jimoh. How body?‘My question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
question is this,’ said Conte. ‘What are Tottenham’s expectations? If they don’t win the title it’s not a tragedy. If they don’t arrive in the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the first round of the Champions League it’s not a tragedy. If they go out in the Europa League against Gent, it’s not a tragedy.
‘Maybe for Chelsea, Arsenal, City and United and, I don’t know, Liverpool, it is a tragedy. You must understand the status of the team. If Barcelona does not compete for the title it’s a tragedy. The same for Real Madrid. If Sevilla does not compete for the title it’s not a tragedy.
‘They can breathe and think in a different way. You can judge the others, but the others must fight to win the title.’
Conte is not the only one, let's face facts, expectation levels at Spuds don't match the levels at the top clubs. Never have, never will.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=277651&hilit=Spurs+ ... n&start=46
My relevant quote from that link :it's unreasonable or unfair for a Spurs fan to poke at a Pep, or Jose etc knowing fully well that their expectation and target is not in Spurs expectation level. Can Spurs win the league? Yes they can. Are they expected? No. If Pooch finishes second or third what will happen? Pat on the back. Neither Pep nor Jose are afforded that luxury. The media will come down hard on them one way or another. So its the proverbial apples and oranges situation. Again, money is irrelevant to the discourse because every ambitious club requires the manager to buy big players whether they like it or not. More apples vs oranges. If Pooch goes to ManU he will spend 100M+ in one window whether he wants to or not. It's what it is. And he will be required to win the league. In that scenario, second place won't work.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=281431&start=69
As we have seen with Arsenal, 3 major trophies in 4 years and not being able to compete financially with 3 of the direct competition is not enough to save Wenger from expectations and pressure.
Trust me, the easiest thing is being able to contend for the title without expectation and pressure. Whenever they have had to perform under a bit of pressure in the last 2 seasons, this Spuds team has crumbled in the League and FA Cup.
When you have a team like Chelsea that can still call on 40m strikers, midfielders and defenders towards the tail end of the season or to replace another injured player, that obviously hides the fatigue and the inability to sustain the same level of performance with a team like Spurs relying on a few core all season.
Everybody keep singing this "crack under pressure" song yet they tell us we are an injury to Kane, Alli or one of our defenders, away from falling-off the title race.
I don't need anyone of you to tell me Spurs is trying very hard to win the title with the pressure of making the little they have go a long way. It is the way of things now that we put down those who make a go of the little they have as lacking ambition or working under less pressure.
Money can take off a lot of pressure just like not having it can make every little thing pressure packed.
I'm sure if you were talking about Arsenal you'd point out how with the tight squad you have, Kane missed 3 months, Lamela the whole season, Rose practically over half the season and the likes of Jan and Toby both out at the same time for spells. Yet the team chased, more than others who have a decent bench of millionaire stars. Keep sendingnging how we crack under pressure if it helps you as a goon
To say I am not enjoying myself with all of this is an understatement. Now you know how it feels. I remember your comments when we lost crucial games. I remember when I complained of bad luck with injuries and how you called it an excuse. What are you doing now?
I remember 2 big games in the last 2 seasons against Chelsea, you folded and crumbled under the pressure. Arsenal under even under bigger pressure delivered against City and Chealsea. We hold these facts to be self evident.
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Re: Spurs 2017/2018 Season: Levy fortifying Team
It will not be Spuds.Cristao II wrote:It is interesting how all eyes are on Spurs. At the end of the day, we are all going to play 38 matches and whoever the first is will be the winner.
Arsène Wenger at Arsenal, 1996 to 2018. I was there.