Tunisia&Cameroon should not be anywhere near the world cup
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Tunisia&Cameroon should not be anywhere near the world cup
As someone from a minor African footballing country during the mundial I become an honorary Nigerian, Cameroonian, Ghanaian, Algerian, Senegalese, Tunisian, Ivorian..... etc
My greatest frustration is to see the likes of Cameroon and Tunisia qualify time and time again with the same result. With the Cameroonians there are always stories of money squables and problems with their FA. The results on the pitch apart from 1990 speak for themselves. The Tunisians just seem to suffer from a massive inferiority complex when playing non African opposition.
With Nigeria halfway into the departure lounge for Russia 2018, I hope the Super Eagles and whoever else represents our beloved continent give their all. Hopefully we will see one or two new names from the African continent in Russia? Cape Verde or Burkina Faso perhaps?
I also hope the Egyptians finally make it to the world cup again, I am confident they will give a good account of themselves.
My greatest frustration is to see the likes of Cameroon and Tunisia qualify time and time again with the same result. With the Cameroonians there are always stories of money squables and problems with their FA. The results on the pitch apart from 1990 speak for themselves. The Tunisians just seem to suffer from a massive inferiority complex when playing non African opposition.
With Nigeria halfway into the departure lounge for Russia 2018, I hope the Super Eagles and whoever else represents our beloved continent give their all. Hopefully we will see one or two new names from the African continent in Russia? Cape Verde or Burkina Faso perhaps?
I also hope the Egyptians finally make it to the world cup again, I am confident they will give a good account of themselves.
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Cape Verde will topple at international level. Burkina Faso has much more self belief and a couple of elite players.
As for Tunisia - I am quietly hoping Guinea and Naby Keita beat them in Guinea.
As for Tunisia - I am quietly hoping Guinea and Naby Keita beat them in Guinea.
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Yes, I think they will do fine. Albeit I think Ghana would have done just as well and would much prefer them over Tunisia.Chimurenga Rebel wrote: I also hope the Egyptians finally make it to the world cup again, I am confident they will give a good account of themselves.
Tunisia's group is ridiculous and I will never believe there was no foul play when drawing the groups. Its just so convenient, especially given Tunisia's track record.
Hoping for:
DRCongo
Nigeria
Cote d'Ivoire (worst case scenario Morocco)
Senegal (else Burkina Faso)
Egypt (alternatively Ghana)
Save for Cote d'Ivoire / Morocco and DRCongo I'm confident the rest will do well.
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The way things work sometimes, Tunisia could go on to finally shock the world this time, if they qualify. (Or maybe not. I kept hoping the same for Cameroon, only for them to perform worse each time. The last straw was them performing kung fu on Croatian players while losing 4-0 )
WC 1994
Cameroun 2 - Sweden 2
Cameroun 0 - Brazil 3
Cameroun 1 - Russia 6
WC 1998
Cameroun 1 - Austria 1
Cameroun 0 - Italy 3
Cameroun 1 - Chile 1
WC 2002
Cameroun 1 - Ireland 1
Cameroun 1 - Saudi Arabia 0
Cameroun 0 - Germany 2
WC 2010
Cameroun 0 - Japan 1
Cameroun 1 - Denmark 2
Cameroun 1 - Netherlands 2
WC 2014
Cameroun 0 - Mexico 1
Cameroun 0 - Croatia 4
Cameroun 1 - Brazil 4
Cameroon has 1 (one!) win in 15 WC games, have scored 10 goals and collected 33(-23 goal difference). No thanks, may we never see them again at a WC.
WC 1994
Cameroun 2 - Sweden 2
Cameroun 0 - Brazil 3
Cameroun 1 - Russia 6
WC 1998
Cameroun 1 - Austria 1
Cameroun 0 - Italy 3
Cameroun 1 - Chile 1
WC 2002
Cameroun 1 - Ireland 1
Cameroun 1 - Saudi Arabia 0
Cameroun 0 - Germany 2
WC 2010
Cameroun 0 - Japan 1
Cameroun 1 - Denmark 2
Cameroun 1 - Netherlands 2
WC 2014
Cameroun 0 - Mexico 1
Cameroun 0 - Croatia 4
Cameroun 1 - Brazil 4
Cameroon has 1 (one!) win in 15 WC games, have scored 10 goals and collected 33(-23 goal difference). No thanks, may we never see them again at a WC.
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based on the current standings tunisia are just as likely to qualify as nigeria
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Cameroon has won only 1 game since they reached the QF in 1990. That is from 5 world cups and 15 games.
Nigeria has won 5 games since then. We did Africa a favour by eliminating them, especially with their antics in 2014.
Nigeria has won 5 games since then. We did Africa a favour by eliminating them, especially with their antics in 2014.
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and that win came against Saudi Arabia
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Everyone and their Mom's getting all disrespectful on CE.
Cameron where in the world cup when your ancestors where wondering what that machine in the air was.
Had it not been for the IL's in 82 and 90 the world cup would have just been a dream for a lot of countries in Africa.
Sit down and STFU!
Cameron where in the world cup when your ancestors where wondering what that machine in the air was.
Had it not been for the IL's in 82 and 90 the world cup would have just been a dream for a lot of countries in Africa.
Sit down and STFU!
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Makanaky wrote:Everyone and their Mom's getting all disrespectful on CE.
Cameron where in the world cup when your ancestors where wondering what that machine in the air was.
Had it not been for the IL's in 82 and 90 the world cup would have just been a dream for a lot of countries in Africa.
Sit down and STFU!
But....what have you done for me lately.........
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Re: Tunisia&Cameroon should not be anywhere near the world c
But they kept on qualifying so maybe just maybe the teams they beat to qualify where useless!Scipio Africanus wrote:The way things work sometimes, Tunisia could go on to finally shock the world this time, if they qualify. (Or maybe not. I kept hoping the same for Cameroon, only for them to perform worse each time. The last straw was them performing kung fu on Croatian players while losing 4-0 )
WC 1994
Cameroun 2 - Sweden 2
Cameroun 0 - Brazil 3
Cameroun 1 - Russia 6
WC 1998
Cameroun 1 - Austria 1
Cameroun 0 - Italy 3
Cameroun 1 - Chile 1
WC 2002
Cameroun 1 - Ireland 1
Cameroun 1 - Saudi Arabia 0
Cameroun 0 - Germany 2
WC 2010
Cameroun 0 - Japan 1
Cameroun 1 - Denmark 2
Cameroun 1 - Netherlands 2
WC 2014
Cameroun 0 - Mexico 1
Cameroun 0 - Croatia 4
Cameroun 1 - Brazil 4
Cameroon has 1 (one!) win in 15 WC games, have scored 10 goals and collected 33(-23 goal difference). No thanks, may we never see them again at a WC.
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Keep telling yourself that,yes Cameroon shock the world in 90 and I loved it too but you can't live off old moldy bread,it's time to take a back seat and accept the truth Cameroon just can't do it anymore!Makanaky wrote:Everyone and their Mom's getting all disrespectful on CE.
Cameron where in the world cup when your ancestors where wondering what that machine in the air was.
Had it not been for the IL's in 82 and 90 the world cup would have just been a dream for a lot of countries in Africa.
Sit down and STFU!
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Be honest with yourself bro. What would the likes of Onana, Mbida, Kunde, Abega, Enanga and the other Cameroonian ballers of yesteryear have made of the embarrassing exploits of some of the Cameroonian teams of the last 20 years? I am talking about the world cup.Makanaky wrote:Everyone and their Mom's getting all disrespectful on CE.
Cameron where in the world cup when your ancestors where wondering what that machine in the air was.
Had it not been for the IL's in 82 and 90 the world cup would have just been a dream for a lot of countries in Africa.
Sit down and STFU!
I mean Gigi Buffons hero is Thomas Nkono! That right there tells me everything I need to know about the Cameroonian ballers of yesteryear!
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Makanaky, bro,Chimurenga Rebel wrote:Be honest with yourself bro. What would the likes of Onana, Mbida, Kunde, Abega, Enanga and the other Cameroonian ballers of yesteryear have made of the embarrassing exploits of some of the Cameroonian teams of the last 20 years? I am talking about the world cup.Makanaky wrote:Everyone and their Mom's getting all disrespectful on CE.
Cameron where in the world cup when your ancestors where wondering what that machine in the air was.
Had it not been for the IL's in 82 and 90 the world cup would have just been a dream for a lot of countries in Africa.
Sit down and STFU!
I mean Gigi Buffons hero is Thomas Nkono! That right there tells me everything I need to know about the Cameroonian ballers of yesteryear!
Chimurenga has a point but I will only go by the two recent WCs.
SA: organization as I understood was not so bad, it seemed the government had it right but big heads like Eto'o and the Songs had something else in mind and Cameroon was disgraced on the pitch.
Brazil: there were more girlfriends of members of the government than any other Cameroonians. It was so bad some players did not get seats that were reserved for them. The tournament was for players and members of the government a big moment of entertainment: night clubs, family visits, girlfriends visits and so on.
Shameful moments came with players fighting each other on the pitch, most stupid moment was A Song chasing an opponent on the green grass with his elbow raised.
Cameroon should miss one or two WCs and learn.
'82 and '90 great WCs for Cameroon and Africa.
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Whatever the case, an African team need to punch their way to the "semi final"; at least, in Russia. We need to improve from the past
And the BIBLE says: The race is NOT for the swift, neither is the battle for the strong nor ... but time and chance makes them all.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Ecclesiastes 1:18: For in much wisdom is much grief and he that increases knowledge increases sorrow.
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Egypt bend over backwards against foreign teams.marutimon wrote:Yes, I think they will do fine. Albeit I think Ghana would have done just as well and would much prefer them over Tunisia.Chimurenga Rebel wrote: I also hope the Egyptians finally make it to the world cup again, I am confident they will give a good account of themselves.
Tunisia's group is ridiculous and I will never believe there was no foul play when drawing the groups. Its just so convenient, especially given Tunisia's track record.
Hoping for:
DRCongo
Nigeria
Cote d'Ivoire (worst case scenario Morocco)
Senegal (else Burkina Faso)
Egypt (alternatively Ghana)
Save for Cote d'Ivoire / Morocco and DRCongo I'm confident the rest will do well.
Ghana have no business going near a World Cup after their behavior in Brazil. They like Cameroon, have started abusing the privilege of qualifying out of Africa.
Senegal are not a balanced team. I've seen way too many teams with talented players like the current Senegalese team have gone to the World Cup and disappointed.
This goes all the way from the very beginning in the 50s.
“If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.”- Sun Tzu
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So you too get mouth? WTFKabalega wrote:Egypt bend over backwards against foreign teams.marutimon wrote:Yes, I think they will do fine. Albeit I think Ghana would have done just as well and would much prefer them over Tunisia.Chimurenga Rebel wrote: I also hope the Egyptians finally make it to the world cup again, I am confident they will give a good account of themselves.
Tunisia's group is ridiculous and I will never believe there was no foul play when drawing the groups. Its just so convenient, especially given Tunisia's track record.
Hoping for:
DRCongo
Nigeria
Cote d'Ivoire (worst case scenario Morocco)
Senegal (else Burkina Faso)
Egypt (alternatively Ghana)
Save for Cote d'Ivoire / Morocco and DRCongo I'm confident the rest will do well.
Ghana have no business going near a World Cup after their behavior in Brazil. They like Cameroon, have started abusing the privilege of qualifying out of Africa.
Senegal are not a balanced team. I've seen way too many teams with talented players like the current Senegalese team have gone to the World Cup and disappointed.
This goes all the way from the very beginning in the 50s.
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Cameroon should not be at this WC unless they get their act together. Their play and bonus problems have been embarrassing and Africa deserves better this.
Egypt will probably be there but I don't expect much from them. Ditto for Tunisia. I don't see Guinea being able to trouble them when the chips are down.
Nigeria should qualify too. While the Zambians are young and full of running, I don't think their team is cohesive enough to beat Nigeria in Uyo. They still need to mature a bit before they can do something st the WC
I have a feeling Morocco might pip CIV for the WC spot. Unlike most other N African sides the Moroccans have done well
Final spot is Senegal. Like Nigeria they have the potential to do well if the draw is favorable. Like Nigeria they've shown they can rise to the challenge
Egypt will probably be there but I don't expect much from them. Ditto for Tunisia. I don't see Guinea being able to trouble them when the chips are down.
Nigeria should qualify too. While the Zambians are young and full of running, I don't think their team is cohesive enough to beat Nigeria in Uyo. They still need to mature a bit before they can do something st the WC
I have a feeling Morocco might pip CIV for the WC spot. Unlike most other N African sides the Moroccans have done well
Final spot is Senegal. Like Nigeria they have the potential to do well if the draw is favorable. Like Nigeria they've shown they can rise to the challenge
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So when is the South Africa vs. Senegal match being replayed? ....................Thanks to that midget ref for making this happenYUJAM wrote:Cameroon should not be at this WC unless they get their act together. Their play and bonus problems have been embarrassing and Africa deserves better this.
Egypt will probably be there but I don't expect much from them. Ditto for Tunisia. I don't see Guinea being able to trouble them when the chips are down.
Nigeria should qualify too. While the Zambians are young and full of running, I don't think their team is cohesive enough to beat Nigeria in Uyo. They still need to mature a bit before they can do something st the WC
I have a feeling Morocco might pip CIV for the WC spot. Unlike most other N African sides the Moroccans have done well
Final spot is Senegal. Like Nigeria they have the potential to do well if the draw is favorable. Like Nigeria they've shown they can rise to the challenge
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Cameroon has been woeful recently but everyone that gets through African qualifiers deserves a chance to mess up at the WC. These are the best teams Africa has to offer, or do we really believe that Congo DRC, Cape Verde, Guinea, Zambia will do better? Not a chance, they will be ripped to shreds. We saw Angola and Togo go to make up the numbers years ago.
Leave Cameroon, for a small Nation they have done well enough and deserve a bit more respect.
Leave Cameroon, for a small Nation they have done well enough and deserve a bit more respect.
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Senegal may get there but they are not on Nigeria's levelYUJAM wrote:Cameroon should not be at this WC unless they get their act together. Their play and bonus problems have been embarrassing and Africa deserves better this.
Egypt will probably be there but I don't expect much from them. Ditto for Tunisia. I don't see Guinea being able to trouble them when the chips are down.
Nigeria should qualify too. While the Zambians are young and full of running, I don't think their team is cohesive enough to beat Nigeria in Uyo. They still need to mature a bit before they can do something st the WC
I have a feeling Morocco might pip CIV for the WC spot. Unlike most other N African sides the Moroccans have done well
Final spot is Senegal. Like Nigeria they have the potential to do well if the draw is favorable. Like Nigeria they've shown they can rise to the challenge
Nigeria is a far more intelligent footballing nation
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I'm a real African!ANC wrote:So you too get mouth? WTFKabalega wrote:Egypt bend over backwards against foreign teams.marutimon wrote:Yes, I think they will do fine. Albeit I think Ghana would have done just as well and would much prefer them over Tunisia.Chimurenga Rebel wrote: I also hope the Egyptians finally make it to the world cup again, I am confident they will give a good account of themselves.
Tunisia's group is ridiculous and I will never believe there was no foul play when drawing the groups. Its just so convenient, especially given Tunisia's track record.
Hoping for:
DRCongo
Nigeria
Cote d'Ivoire (worst case scenario Morocco)
Senegal (else Burkina Faso)
Egypt (alternatively Ghana)
Save for Cote d'Ivoire / Morocco and DRCongo I'm confident the rest will do well.
Ghana have no business going near a World Cup after their behavior in Brazil. They like Cameroon, have started abusing the privilege of qualifying out of Africa.
Senegal are not a balanced team. I've seen way too many teams with talented players like the current Senegalese team have gone to the World Cup and disappointed.
This goes all the way from the very beginning in the 50s.
“If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.”- Sun Tzu
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Angola acquitted themselves for a first timer.airwolex wrote:Cameroon has been woeful recently but everyone that gets through African qualifiers deserves a chance to mess up at the WC. These are the best teams Africa has to offer, or do we really believe that Congo DRC, Cape Verde, Guinea, Zambia will do better? Not a chance, they will be ripped to shreds. We saw Angola and Togo go to make up the numbers years ago.
Leave Cameroon, for a small Nation they have done well enough and deserve a bit more respect.
Way better than what Ghana did in Brazil and Cameroon or other N. Africans besides Algeria and Morocco.
Togo did what West Africans do best, fight of money. At least, they can be forgiven as it was their first time.
Nigeria, Ghana and others who have been there, have no excuse for poor organization.
That is why more progressive FAs like Cape Verde and Zambia, ...e.t.c, should go and continue to grow.
Players like Africa's finest, Onyango need to experience the WC.
With the usual suspects, it will be more of the same.
Africa needs fresh blood like we have with the CAF leadership
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smartbrother wrote:Senegal may get there but they are not on Nigeria's levelYUJAM wrote:Cameroon should not be at this WC unless they get their act together. Their play and bonus problems have been embarrassing and Africa deserves better this.
Egypt will probably be there but I don't expect much from them. Ditto for Tunisia. I don't see Guinea being able to trouble them when the chips are down.
Nigeria should qualify too. While the Zambians are young and full of running, I don't think their team is cohesive enough to beat Nigeria in Uyo. They still need to mature a bit before they can do something st the WC
I have a feeling Morocco might pip CIV for the WC spot. Unlike most other N African sides the Moroccans have done well
Final spot is Senegal. Like Nigeria they have the potential to do well if the draw is favorable. Like Nigeria they've shown they can rise to the challenge
Nigeria is a far more intelligent footballing nation
well Nigeria need to show that if they qualify- minimum requirement must be Q final - anything below that is failure. about time impact is made- if we seriously prepare well with luck on our side - its achievable