France - what talent
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France - what talent
Griezemann - Atletico
Pogba - Man U
Martial - Man U
Giroud - Arsenal
Dembele - Barcelona
Mbappe - PSG
Mendy - Man City
Kurzawa - PSG
Varane - Real Madrid
Umtiti - Barcelona
Pogba - Man U
Martial - Man U
Giroud - Arsenal
Dembele - Barcelona
Mbappe - PSG
Mendy - Man City
Kurzawa - PSG
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kali wrote:Griezemann
Pogba
Giroud
Dembele
Mbappe
Mendy
Kurzawa
Its a team game. France has benefitted immensely from its colony players esp DR Congo, Cameroon, CIV and territories.
I wonder why the Brits haven't benefitted as much
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What is scary is the number of players they did NOT pick in their last starting 11:
Areola
Kurzawa-Laporte-Koscielny-Mendy
Pogba-Rabiot-Bakayoko
Payet-Giroud-Martial
THAT "second 11" could probably beat any team in the world - except Spain, Germany, or Brazil.
PLUS Coman, Cabaye, Dembele, Kimpenbe, Sissoko not needed! That is a terrifying "reserve team".
Areola
Kurzawa-Laporte-Koscielny-Mendy
Pogba-Rabiot-Bakayoko
Payet-Giroud-Martial
THAT "second 11" could probably beat any team in the world - except Spain, Germany, or Brazil.
PLUS Coman, Cabaye, Dembele, Kimpenbe, Sissoko not needed! That is a terrifying "reserve team".
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those 'names' have struggled against Luxembourg and Bulgaria.
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Names don't play soccer, teams do.King Futcha wrote:those 'names' have struggled against Luxembourg and Bulgaria.
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Teams without names CANNOT play football at the highest level, they can win...no doubt they can, but with grit, with a bit of luck, by remaining compact etc.Enugu II wrote:Names don't play soccer, teams do.King Futcha wrote:those 'names' have struggled against Luxembourg and Bulgaria.
To truly play at the highest level, you need names AND a team.
We mention all the teams that won without names, hardly impressive sides. The type of teams that would put you to sleep.
When Zambia won the ANC, I was here posting like a mad man, they essentially won based on their fitness. But at least it wasn't negative football, like the likes of Porto, Greece etc. Portugal in the Euros were one of the least convincing tournament winners ever.
There is a reason why people refer to names, not because it is a proxy for success, but because it is needed to be truly great.
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Tbite wrote:Teams without names CANNOT play football at the highest level, they can win...no doubt they can, but with grit, with a bit of luck, by remaining compact etc.Enugu II wrote:Names don't play soccer, teams do.King Futcha wrote:those 'names' have struggled against Luxembourg and Bulgaria.
To truly play at the highest level, you need names AND a team.
We mention all the teams that won without names, hardly impressive sides. The type of teams that would put you to sleep.
When Zambia won the ANC, I was here posting like a mad man, they essentially won based on their fitness. But at least it wasn't negative football, like the likes of Porto, Greece etc. Portugal in the Euros were one of the least convincing tournament winners ever.
There is a reason why people refer to names, not because it is a proxy for success, but because it is needed to be truly great.
Zambia are one of the most skillful sides in Africa to put their victory down to fitness alone is disingenuous
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Depends what you mean by skill. They were a team of 11 Etebos, which is not bad, but not great either.Chimurenga Rebel wrote:Tbite wrote:Teams without names CANNOT play football at the highest level, they can win...no doubt they can, but with grit, with a bit of luck, by remaining compact etc.Enugu II wrote:Names don't play soccer, teams do.King Futcha wrote:those 'names' have struggled against Luxembourg and Bulgaria.
To truly play at the highest level, you need names AND a team.
We mention all the teams that won without names, hardly impressive sides. The type of teams that would put you to sleep.
When Zambia won the ANC, I was here posting like a mad man, they essentially won based on their fitness. But at least it wasn't negative football, like the likes of Porto, Greece etc. Portugal in the Euros were one of the least convincing tournament winners ever.
There is a reason why people refer to names, not because it is a proxy for success, but because it is needed to be truly great.
Zambia are one of the most skillful sides in Africa to put their victory down to fitness alone is disingenuous
Buhari, whose two terms thankfully ground to a constitutional halt in May. (One thing both democracies have going for them is that their leaders, however bad, have only two terms to swing the wrecking ball.) Under Buhari, growth per head also plunged to 0. An economic agenda drawn from the dusty pages of a 1970s protectionist handbook failed to do the trick. Despite Buhari’s promise to tame terrorism and criminality, violence flourished. Despite his reputation for probity, corruption swirled. FT
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Exactly. In fact fitness is NOT one of their attributes. But Zambia are renowned for shoe shine footballChimurenga Rebel wrote:Tbite wrote:Teams without names CANNOT play football at the highest level, they can win...no doubt they can, but with grit, with a bit of luck, by remaining compact etc.Enugu II wrote:Names don't play soccer, teams do.King Futcha wrote:those 'names' have struggled against Luxembourg and Bulgaria.
To truly play at the highest level, you need names AND a team.
We mention all the teams that won without names, hardly impressive sides. The type of teams that would put you to sleep.
When Zambia won the ANC, I was here posting like a mad man, they essentially won based on their fitness. But at least it wasn't negative football, like the likes of Porto, Greece etc. Portugal in the Euros were one of the least convincing tournament winners ever.
There is a reason why people refer to names, not because it is a proxy for success, but because it is needed to be truly great.
Zambia are one of the most skillful sides in Africa to put their victory down to fitness alone is disingenuous
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Abeg make una comot Giroud from that list. All he does is gallop around like a disabled donkey. He is the weak link in that French team.
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They almost pulled it off fielding 12 black players. The largest contingent in 3 Lions history.The real deal wrote:kali wrote:Griezemann
Pogba
Giroud
Dembele
Mbappe
Mendy
Kurzawa
Its a team game. France has benefitted immensely from its colony players esp DR Congo, Cameroon, CIV and territories.
I wonder why the Brits haven't benefitted as much
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Just a reminder of some of the players they deemed "not required" for this World Cup:
Benzema, Laporte, Lacazette, Martial, Coman, Cabaye, Sissoko, Debuchy...plus Payet injured.
Benzema, Laporte, Lacazette, Martial, Coman, Cabaye, Sissoko, Debuchy...plus Payet injured.
wiseone wrote:What is scary is the number of players they did NOT pick in their last starting 11:
Areola
Kurzawa-Laporte-Koscielny-Mendy
Pogba-Rabiot-Bakayoko
Payet-Giroud-Martial
THAT "second 11" could probably beat any team in the world - except Spain, Germany, or Brazil.
PLUS Coman, Cabaye, Dembele, Kimpenbe, Sissoko not needed! That is a terrifying "reserve team".
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wiseone wrote:Just a reminder of some of the players they deemed "not required" for this World Cup:
Benzema, Laporte, Lacazette, Martial, Coman, Cabaye, Sissoko, Debuchy...plus Payet injured.
wiseone wrote:What is scary is the number of players they did NOT pick in their last starting 11:
Areola
Kurzawa-Laporte-Koscielny-Mendy
Pogba-Rabiot-Bakayoko
Payet-Giroud-Martial
THAT "second 11" could probably beat any team in the world - except Spain, Germany, or Brazil.
PLUS Coman, Cabaye, Dembele, Kimpenbe, Sissoko not needed! That is a terrifying "reserve team".
You didnt even mention the best of all, Frank Ribery...
Can you imagine a front 3 of Ribery, Griezmann and Mbappe?
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Sorry. the fact I forgot Ribery is testament to how many brilliant players they have. France's talent pool is deep enough for them to play different teams in the Euros and WC and reach the final of both.
charlie wrote:wiseone wrote:Just a reminder of some of the players they deemed "not required" for this World Cup:
Benzema, Laporte, Lacazette, Martial, Coman, Cabaye, Sissoko, Debuchy...plus Payet injured.
wiseone wrote:What is scary is the number of players they did NOT pick in their last starting 11:
Areola
Kurzawa-Laporte-Koscielny-Mendy
Pogba-Rabiot-Bakayoko
Payet-Giroud-Martial
THAT "second 11" could probably beat any team in the world - except Spain, Germany, or Brazil.
PLUS Coman, Cabaye, Dembele, Kimpenbe, Sissoko not needed! That is a terrifying "reserve team".
You didnt even mention the best of all, Frank Ribery...
Can you imagine a front 3 of Ribery, Griezmann and Mbappe?
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A team left out Karim Benzema! What a country!
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Given the "limited" contributions of Giroud,...it is a travesty that Benzema is not playing in his place.Goldleaf wrote:A team left out Karim Benzema! What a country!
He is the best kind of anchor for Griezmann and Mbappe to buzz around.
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Wow I had totally forgotten about Ribery. I take it he is retired from national duty
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Benzema was excluded for non-football reasons.
charlie wrote:Given the "limited" contributions of Giroud,...it is a travesty that Benzema is not playing in his place.Goldleaf wrote:A team left out Karim Benzema! What a country!
He is the best kind of anchor for Griezmann and Mbappe to buzz around.
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It's not an African country where "do you know who i am" is the mode and way of operation. Benzema tainted his name and got him self disqualified from the French team until further notice. They have enough players to fill up the spot of any of them that acts foolish.Goldleaf wrote:A team left out Karim Benzema! What a country!
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Also Payet got injured right before the world cup. Their squad is just crazy...Samora Machel wrote:Wow I had totally forgotten about Ribery. I take it he is retired from national duty
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