Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
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Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
see results... and this bobo dropped the likes of Mikel ,Ekong and Enyeama( Mikel went on to have a wonderful Olympics as well as having one of the best Worldcup qualifiers in recent times) now imagine if we had Enyeama? Nah this kind result una dey kpom Oliseh for kicking Vince out of our SE? He almost kicked Mikel out sef..kaiSucceeds Stephen Keshi
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Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
oliseh is a certified moron even as a player his moronic tendencies had to be re-channelled to get something out of him - something he now has difficulties managing as an autonomous adult
make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable.
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Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
wetin be thisjette1 wrote:oliseh is a certified moron even as a player his moronic tendencies had to be re-channelled to get something out of him - something he now has difficulties managing as an autonomous adult
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Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
What's the point of bringing this up BP? The Eagles have qualified for the World Cup. Oliseh has moved on. He made mistakes but don't for a moment think that some of the things he complained about are finished, why not let things be instead of complaining about him afresh?
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Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
Keshi, Oliseh and SSS can complain about the whole world if they want.
Fact remains that they were all their own worst enemy, and were all their own greatest obstacles for success.
They all chose to play rubbish players over better ones.
You cannot succeed like that and we all heard nonsense about "team building"
Well it has taken a foreigner, an Oyinbo to do simple things,
LIKE PICKING THE BEST PLAYERS BASED ON MERRITT AND WITHOUT SENTIMENTS.
The result was that we qualified from the hardest group Nigeria has ever had WITH A GAME TO SPARE.
Good riddance for that clown Oliseh who actually thought he could replace Mikel with some junk like Paul Onobi who has found his level in Finland of all places.
Fact remains that they were all their own worst enemy, and were all their own greatest obstacles for success.
They all chose to play rubbish players over better ones.
You cannot succeed like that and we all heard nonsense about "team building"
Well it has taken a foreigner, an Oyinbo to do simple things,
LIKE PICKING THE BEST PLAYERS BASED ON MERRITT AND WITHOUT SENTIMENTS.
The result was that we qualified from the hardest group Nigeria has ever had WITH A GAME TO SPARE.
Good riddance for that clown Oliseh who actually thought he could replace Mikel with some junk like Paul Onobi who has found his level in Finland of all places.
Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
Bigpokey24 wrote:wetin be thisjette1 wrote:oliseh is a certified moron even as a player his moronic tendencies had to be re-channelled to get something out of him - something he now has difficulties managing as an autonomous adult
Ahhh. He is supporting you
Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
This thread reminds me of what happens when Inmates run an asylum
Madness all around
Madness all around
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Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
the thing is lonely since Mikel asked this side chick to give space for mikel4wifeBAP wrote:This thread reminds me of what happens when Inmates run an asylum
Madness all around
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Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
I agree with you but let's leave Keshi out of it and allow him rest in peace. And yes, Oliseh and Siasia brought it on themselves. They misused the freedom they were given.vancity eagle wrote:Keshi, Oliseh and SSS can complain about the whole world if they want.
Fact remains that they were all their own worst enemy, and were all their own greatest obstacles for success.
They all chose to play rubbish players over better ones.
You cannot succeed like that and we all heard nonsense about "team building"
Well it has taken a foreigner, an Oyinbo to do simple things,
LIKE PICKING THE BEST PLAYERS BASED ON MERRITT AND WITHOUT SENTIMENTS.
The result was that we qualified from the hardest group Nigeria has ever had WITH A GAME TO SPARE.
Good riddance for that clown Oliseh who actually thought he could replace Mikel with some junk like Paul Onobi who has found his level in Finland of all places.
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Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
Tactically or motivationally Oliseh seems like a top class coach. The place he failed at was team selection, where he got the basics all wrong. His qualities really shine at club level, where he has limited options to change anything in his team, so he has to take what he has and succeed with it.
I coud still see him back with Nigeria, but he needs a few more years as a club coach.
I coud still see him back with Nigeria, but he needs a few more years as a club coach.
Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
Good point! Coaching Nigeria is more difficult than people think! We have a very large pool of players to select from. If you aren't careful you might end up dismantling a team that has started building chemistry because there are so many players to try out and also the media doesn't help matters by putting pressure on the coach to try every tom d#$% and harry. This is exactly what happened to Keshi after the Afcon, in an attempt to make his afcon winning team better he slowly dismantled a team that had a winning spirit and had started to show good understanding with one another. Let's hope Rohr remains strong and sticks with this team that has developed a winning mentality!marutimon wrote:Tactically or motivationally Oliseh seems like a top class coach. The place he failed at was team selection, where he got the basics all wrong. His qualities really shine at club level, where he has limited options to change anything in his team, so he has to take what he has and succeed with it.
I coud still see him back with Nigeria, but he needs a few more years as a club coach.
Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
He should be banned for life from coaching the Eagles.
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Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
Nor make me laugh. He is a useless coach full of himself.marutimon wrote:Tactically or motivationally. Oliseh seems like a top class coach. The place he failed at was team selection, where he got the basics all wrong. His qualities really shine at club level, where he has limited options to change anything in his team, so he has to take what he has and succeed with it.
I could still see him back with Nigeria, but he needs a few more years as a club coach.
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they guy huffed and puffed vs the almighty Swaziland
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Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
Given his recent club record he has all the right to be full of himself.Sir V wrote:Nor make me laugh. He is a useless coach full of himself.marutimon wrote:Tactically or motivationally. Oliseh seems like a top class coach. The place he failed at was team selection, where he got the basics all wrong. His qualities really shine at club level, where he has limited options to change anything in his team, so he has to take what he has and succeed with it.
I could still see him back with Nigeria, but he needs a few more years as a club coach.
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Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
I totally agree with you. The guy is totally full of himself.jette1 wrote:oliseh is a certified moron even as a player his moronic tendencies had to be re-channelled to get something out of him - something he now has difficulties managing as an autonomous adult
Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
Good for him. Which div is the club and where is it based?marutimon wrote:Given his recent club record he has all the right to be full of himself.Sir V wrote:Nor make me laugh. He is a useless coach full of himself.marutimon wrote:Tactically or motivationally. Oliseh seems like a top class coach. The place he failed at was team selection, where he got the basics all wrong. His qualities really shine at club level, where he has limited options to change anything in his team, so he has to take what he has and succeed with it.
I could still see him back with Nigeria, but he needs a few more years as a club coach.
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Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
With the exception of the Congo firendly Oliseh never lost a game with the SE (Home based were primarily coached by Salisu Yusuf so CHAN ouster doesnt count ) and Olisegh definitely didnt lose 2-0 at home to South Africa
Not dissing Rohr but seriously you folks need to let this Oliseh matter rest. He was a technically solid coach but simply didn't have the temperament to deal with the NFF and their shenanigans
Not dissing Rohr but seriously you folks need to let this Oliseh matter rest. He was a technically solid coach but simply didn't have the temperament to deal with the NFF and their shenanigans
Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
Emotional intelligence is a key necessity in coaching and managing situations, and that is something Oliseh lacked... not saying he was a bad coach in anyway, but he was just too sensitive to be a coach, Keshi took way more crap than any local coach I knew but didn't whine about it or quit half way through a campaign, he saw to it that he completed his task with the team before anything else, now that's the trademark of maturity, something Oliseh apparently lacked.BAP wrote:With the exception of the Congo firendly Oliseh never lost a game with the SE (Home based were primarily coached by Salisu Yusuf so CHAN ouster doesnt count ) and Olisegh definitely didnt lose 2-0 at home to South Africa
Not dissing Rohr but seriously you folks need to let this Oliseh matter rest. He was a technically solid coach but simply didn't have the temperament to deal with the NFF and their shenanigans
Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
So how come he is doing so well with his current team if he lacks those things ?Tobi17 wrote:Emotional intelligence is a key necessity in coaching and managing situations, and that is something Oliseh lacked... not saying he was a bad coach in anyway, but he was just too sensitive to be a coach, Keshi took way more crap than any local coach I knew but didn't whine about it or quit half way through a campaign, he saw to it that he completed his task with the team before anything else, now that's the trademark of maturity, something Oliseh apparently lacked.BAP wrote:With the exception of the Congo firendly Oliseh never lost a game with the SE (Home based were primarily coached by Salisu Yusuf so CHAN ouster doesnt count ) and Olisegh definitely didnt lose 2-0 at home to South Africa
Not dissing Rohr but seriously you folks need to let this Oliseh matter rest. He was a technically solid coach but simply didn't have the temperament to deal with the NFF and their shenanigans
Truth is few coaches that arent desperate for work can put up with the Nigerian set up
Re: Oliseh struggled as a coach for the SE
say this againTobi17 wrote:Emotional intelligence is a key necessity in coaching and managing situations, and that is something Oliseh lacked... not saying he was a bad coach in anyway, but he was just too sensitive to be a coach, Keshi took way more crap than any local coach I knew but didn't whine about it or quit half way through a campaign, he saw to it that he completed his task with the team before anything else, now that's the trademark of maturity, something Oliseh apparently lacked.BAP wrote:With the exception of the Congo firendly Oliseh never lost a game with the SE (Home based were primarily coached by Salisu Yusuf so CHAN ouster doesnt count ) and Olisegh definitely didnt lose 2-0 at home to South Africa
Not dissing Rohr but seriously you folks need to let this Oliseh matter rest. He was a technically solid coach but simply didn't have the temperament to deal with the NFF and their shenanigans
make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable.
"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true."
"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true."