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You didn't watch Okpara in that season. So, I am not in a position to have this discussion with you.john12 wrote:Bros, so you’re saying that Godwin 2007 performance for Strasbourg was better than omeruo ANC 2013 performance? I highly disagree with that
And if you are going to compare a full season of European football, including UEFA Cup to 4 games(?), then how can we, in good conscience, have a conversation?
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That was one of the best performances I have ever seen from a defender in that first leg. he was unbelievable! Ronaldo eye clear that night! Second leg, Ronaldo show am pepper sha!Dammy wrote:Godwin Okpara's form for Strasbourg in 1997 was world class and better than Omeruo in ANC 2013.john12 wrote:Bros, so you’re saying that Godwin 2007 performance for Strasbourg was better than omeruo ANC 2013 performance? I highly disagree with that
Okpara was one of the very few defenders to pocket a rampaging Ronaldo (original version) that year in the UEFA cup, a performance that led to the world noticing him and securing a move to PSG.
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The conversation is not about whether the 90s guys were overrated or whether the SE had a poor defense (as a group). The conversation here is whether Omeruo is world class and it is not just ridiculous, but laughable for anyone to even put him in that category.bret- hart wrote:Dammy wrote:Godwin Okpara's form for Strasbourg in 1997 was world class and better than Omeruo in ANC 2013.john12 wrote:Bros, so you’re saying that Godwin 2007 performance for Strasbourg was better than omeruo ANC 2013 performance? I highly disagree with that
Okpara was one of the very few defenders to pocket a rampaging Ronaldo (original version) that year in the UEFA cup, a performance that led to the world noticing him and securing a move to PSG.
I feel alot of those 90s guys are overrated. I mean that SEs defence leaked goals like crazy back then.
Someone then asked me to define world-class. I chose to use an example of a full season performance by a Nigerian (whom, personally, I say did not even reach world class levels) to show that Omeruo has never played, in his entire career, at the level of that performance by that Nigerian. One can argue that Omeruo is better than Okpara (I disagree), or that Okpara is useless, or that Omeruo is a chief in his village! What one cannot argue is that Omeruo has never played to the level Okpara played that season. I dont know if I am not making sense, because John12 keeps leaving the realm of our argument to discuss other irrelevancies. The simple one line point is: "Omeruo has never played at the level Okpara played in that 1997 season." This is indisputable!
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There is no 'world class' defender currently in the SE, nor is Omeruo the best defender in the SE.
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I hope Omuero lives up to his potential to be world class.
He is still young for a defender but he must show consistency and drive to get to the top.
That is his call to make.
He is still young for a defender but he must show consistency and drive to get to the top.
That is his call to make.
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World class that got caught vs Messi...worldclass vs Zimbabwe...or. world class moving from one club via loan season after season... this just shows tobi is one clueless football watcher
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He's turning 26 in four months, he isn't that young anymore.cchinukw wrote:I hope Omuero lives up to his potential to be world class.
He is still young for a defender but he must show consistency and drive to get to the top.
That is his call to make.
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Lol. my brother slow your roll abeg.ANC wrote:Omeruo has always been world class IMHO
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green4life wrote:Lol. my brother slow your roll abeg.ANC wrote:Omeruo has always been world class IMHO
Tomorrow you would come here and curse at Rohr for playing down teams expectations.
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One has nothing to do with the other. Since when did we need a world class defender to win the ANC? It helps, but defending is first and foremost, teamwork and positional discipline. Abi VVD and DeLight no full ground yesterday when someone not named Ronaldo scored to lift the UEFA Nations trophy? On the flip side, how many Portuguese defenders are better than the dutch? how many proper shots did the Portuguese goalie have to save?ANC wrote:green4life wrote:Lol. my brother slow your roll abeg.ANC wrote:Omeruo has always been world class IMHO
Tomorrow you would come here and curse at Rohr for playing down teams expectations.
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danfo driver wrote:Has Omeruo ever performed at the level of Sergio Ramos, Gerard Pique, Bonucci, Chiellini, Thiago Silva, Godin, Vincent Kompany, Alaba, Koulibaly?EMIR KONGI JAFFI JOFFA wrote:What does world class mean? is it playing in london live on BBC getting props from Gary lineker ?danfo driver wrote:Omeruo has NEVER been world class. We haven't had a world class CB since Taribo West.ANC wrote:Omeruo has always been world class IMHO
Or the level of Lahm, Vidic, Ferdinand, Terry, Carvalho, Cannavaro, Maldini, Puyol, Cafu, Beckenbauer, Matthaus, Nesta, Baresi, Taribo, Keshi, Chukwu?
Im a big Omeruo fan but you killed it.
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Nigeria's 26 okalani JR wrote:He's turning 26 in four months, he isn't that young anymore.cchinukw wrote:I hope Omuero lives up to his potential to be world class.
He is still young for a defender but he must show consistency and drive to get to the top.
That is his call to make.
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Slow ke? STOP your roll.green4life wrote:Lol. my brother slow your roll abeg.ANC wrote:Omeruo has always been world class IMHO
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That's still young for a DEFENDER.kalani JR wrote:He's turning 26 in four months, he isn't that young anymore.cchinukw wrote:I hope Omuero lives up to his potential to be world class.
He is still young for a defender but he must show consistency and drive to get to the top.
That is his call to make.
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He is not WC...not even slightly close, Kongi, as always is getting ahead of himself. But for the SE, the guy will always be a legend. Tbh all the guys that won the AFCOn in 2013...Ideye, Emenike, Oboabana, Onazi, VM, etc are legends...but not one of them is/was WC!
To be honest, apart from Enyeanma and maybe Mikel, none of them is even top SE first team.
To be honest, apart from Enyeanma and maybe Mikel, none of them is even top SE first team.
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Omeruo is not a world class defender. The goal messi scored against him at the World Cup was testament to what I see as his poor positional awareness which messi made a meal of.
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Haba! That Messi goal was a Messique type goal. He made two moves in one fluid motion. The only way Omeruo could have defended that was if he was 6 inches taller.kali wrote:Omeruo is not a world class defender. The goal messi scored against him at the World Cup was testament to what I see as his poor positional awareness which messi made a meal of.
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You know how many defenders Messi has made foolish?? If you do, then no defender is World class
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Una Sabi derail discussion day. Kai!
Back to the original point of the post: bobo has improved O!
Not just Zim game, all season. Before na just speed him dey use. Now him don add positioning sense.
Very promising. E go hard for Oyinbo wall now O! Bobo don split dem.
Back to the original point of the post: bobo has improved O!
Not just Zim game, all season. Before na just speed him dey use. Now him don add positioning sense.
Very promising. E go hard for Oyinbo wall now O! Bobo don split dem.
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But is he WC? Is he Baresi, Sergio Ramos, Van Dyik, Taribo West, Furo Iyenemi etc?waka-man wrote:Una Sabi derail discussion day. Kai!
Back to the original point of the post: bobo has improved O!
Not just Zim game, all season. Before na just speed him dey use. Now him don add positioning sense.
Very promising. E go hard for Oyinbo wall now O! Bobo don split dem.
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The short answer is no. The long answer is the term is meaningless.maceo4 wrote:But is he WC? Is he Baresi, Sergio Ramos, Van Dyik, Taribo West, Furo Iyenemi etc?waka-man wrote:Una Sabi derail discussion day. Kai!
Back to the original point of the post: bobo has improved O!
Not just Zim game, all season. Before na just speed him dey use. Now him don add positioning sense.
Very promising. E go hard for Oyinbo wall now O! Bobo don split dem.
Right now, he might be Nigeria’s best defender. For the purposes of this forum, that’s all that matters.
Keep this up and he’ll rank up there with Yobo and Nwanu. He has some way to go to get to Chukwu, Keshi, Okechukwu and West.
As for Okpara: he had one good season. But he’s a sex pest anyway. I’d rather forget he ever represented my country.
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Sir, you are older than me and should know more about history than I do. This is false. He won the Ebony Shoe at Eendracht Aalst for a reason. At Strasbourg, he was there for 3 years. One could say he had one outrageously fantastic season at Strasbourg and 2 very good ones, which led to PSG signing him.waka-man wrote:The short answer is no. The long answer is the term is meaningless.maceo4 wrote:But is he WC? Is he Baresi, Sergio Ramos, Van Dyik, Taribo West, Furo Iyenemi etc?waka-man wrote:Una Sabi derail discussion day. Kai!
Back to the original point of the post: bobo has improved O!
Not just Zim game, all season. Before na just speed him dey use. Now him don add positioning sense.
Very promising. E go hard for Oyinbo wall now O! Bobo don split dem.
Right now, he might be Nigeria’s best defender. For the purposes of this forum, that’s all that matters.
Keep this up and he’ll rank up there with Yobo and Nwanu. He has some way to go to get to Chukwu, Keshi, Okechukwu and West.
As for Okpara: he had one good season. But he’s a sex pest anyway. I’d rather forget he ever represented my country.
Anyway, you are right. This thread is not about Okpara. i just didn't want your false statement to remain unchallenged. That is how lies become truth.
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With Kali on this one. It's not a goal he should have allowed Messi to score. Dispossessing him would have been hard, but troubling him enough to make sure that ball wasn't on target was necessary. He just didn't. It was a sweet goal, but I disagree that it was unavoidable.Cellular wrote:Haba! That Messi goal was a Messique type goal. He made two moves in one fluid motion. The only way Omeruo could have defended that was if he was 6 inches taller.kali wrote:Omeruo is not a world class defender. The goal messi scored against him at the World Cup was testament to what I see as his poor positional awareness which messi made a meal of.
Our 3 CDs just get K-Leg. The most technically gifted is Balogun. But he's too slow. Troost is fast, but raw, and I still think prone to the occasional blood rush to the brain. Also, not very technically gifted. Omeruo has just gone downhill since 2013 - a period where he should have gone "up" (haven't seen him this season, but I'm hopeful you guys are right that he's improved).
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