Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
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Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
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Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
FIRE ROHR....
You can't achieve anything until you believe you can
You can't achieve anything until you believe you can
Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
And thats it and all will be well?
What next?
What next?
nanijoe wrote:FIRE ROHR....
You can't achieve anything until you believe you can
Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
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We've been rebuilding for 5 years now, and we still do not have a pattern or style of play. We struggled to defeat Benin by scoring in min 93.. We struggle to keep cleansheets vs incompetent teams. We lead by 4 goals and the team collapsed during the 2nd half. What rebuilding was applied towards moral and team focus.
We celebrate defeating trash teams like freaking LESOfreakingTO . We do not have capable replacements for quality center backs. The team wins due to individual brilliance and zero tactical input. We can huff and puff with trash teams during qualifiers, but come tournament days , we choke vs the heavy weights in African football. Some fans do get delusional after putting lipstick on a pig alas Benin , Salone and lesotho
We are better off with a new way forward
We celebrate defeating trash teams like freaking LESOfreakingTO . We do not have capable replacements for quality center backs. The team wins due to individual brilliance and zero tactical input. We can huff and puff with trash teams during qualifiers, but come tournament days , we choke vs the heavy weights in African football. Some fans do get delusional after putting lipstick on a pig alas Benin , Salone and lesotho
We are better off with a new way forward
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Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
And what new way forward do you propose?Bigpokey24 wrote:We've been rebuilding for 5 years now, and we still do not have a pattern or style of play. We struggled to defeat Benin by scoring in min 93.. We struggle to keep cleansheets vs incompetent teams. We lead by 4 goals and the team collapsed during the 2nd half. What rebuilding was applied towards moral and team focus.
We celebrate defeating trash teams like freaking LESOfreakingTO . We do not have capable replacements for quality center backs. The team wins due to individual brilliance and zero tactical input. We can huff and puff with trash teams during qualifiers, but come tournament days , we choke vs the heavy weights in African football. Some fans do get delusional after putting lipstick on a pig alas Benin , Salone and lesotho
We are better off with a new way forward
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Changing the current coachTobi17 wrote:And what new way forward do you propose?Bigpokey24 wrote:We've been rebuilding for 5 years now, and we still do not have a pattern or style of play. We struggled to defeat Benin by scoring in min 93.. We struggle to keep cleansheets vs incompetent teams. We lead by 4 goals and the team collapsed during the 2nd half. What rebuilding was applied towards moral and team focus.
We celebrate defeating trash teams like freaking LESOfreakingTO . We do not have capable replacements for quality center backs. The team wins due to individual brilliance and zero tactical input. We can huff and puff with trash teams during qualifiers, but come tournament days , we choke vs the heavy weights in African football. Some fans do get delusional after putting lipstick on a pig alas Benin , Salone and lesotho
We are better off with a new way forward
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Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
So let's look at charting "a new way forward" as you suggest.Bigpokey24 wrote:We've been rebuilding for 5 years now, and we still do not have a pattern or style of play. We struggled to defeat Benin by scoring in min 93.. We struggle to keep cleansheets vs incompetent teams. We lead by 4 goals and the team collapsed during the 2nd half. What rebuilding was applied towards moral and team focus.
We celebrate defeating trash teams like freaking LESOfreakingTO . We do not have capable replacements for quality center backs. The team wins due to individual brilliance and zero tactical input. We can huff and puff with trash teams during qualifiers, but come tournament days , we choke vs the heavy weights in African football. Some fans do get delusional after putting lipstick on a pig alas Benin , Salone and lesotho
We are better off with a new way forward
What are the things that need to be done, how and with whom?
A SWOT analysis would help if you don't mind.
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Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
Obviously hire a Coach who thinks we can get to the World Cup SF, and accepts it as a reasonable goal. That coach would probably need a few "Papendal style" camps between now and the ANC/WC , and would need to play a few top teams in friendlies along the way as a way of realistically measuring the talent on hand.
While I have nothing against Rohr personally, it is evident that he sets the bar very low as far as what the SE can achieve
While I have nothing against Rohr personally, it is evident that he sets the bar very low as far as what the SE can achieve
Damunk wrote:And thats it?
What next?nanijoe wrote:FIRE ROHR....
You can't achieve anything until you believe you can
Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
Can you list these world class coaches available to take Nigeria at short notice to the world cup SF?nanijoe wrote:Obviously hire a Coach who thinks we can get to the World Cup SF, and accepts it as a reasonable goal. That coach would probably need a few "Papendal style" camps between now and the ANC/WC , and would need to play a few top teams in friendlies along the way as a way of realistically measuring the talent on hand.
While I have nothing against Rohr personally, it is evident that he sets the bar very low as far as what the SE can achieve
Damunk wrote:And thats it?
What next?nanijoe wrote:FIRE ROHR....
You can't achieve anything until you believe you can
Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
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Can you list the ones that are not?
Tobi17 wrote:Can you list these world class coaches available to take Nigeria at short notice to the world cup SF?nanijoe wrote:Obviously hire a Coach who thinks we can get to the World Cup SF, and accepts it as a reasonable goal. That coach would probably need a few "Papendal style" camps between now and the ANC/WC , and would need to play a few top teams in friendlies along the way as a way of realistically measuring the talent on hand.
While I have nothing against Rohr personally, it is evident that he sets the bar very low as far as what the SE can achieve
Damunk wrote:And thats it?
What next?nanijoe wrote:FIRE ROHR....
You can't achieve anything until you believe you can
Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
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Oya, what's your answer?Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
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Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
Rohr has to create a team with a positive "We can win" mindset, not the current often-conservative mindset. The former does not mean that you cannot be good defensively. He should also work on creating a team that can press effectively
Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
He doesn't need to create the team, he already has the team. All he needs to do is to create the mentality cause this present generation of players have all the talents necessary to win a major trophy (AFCON gold), we can't waste a budding team like this on the altar of conservatism.aruako1 wrote:Rohr has to create a team with a positive "We can win" mindset, not the current often-conservative mindset. The former does not mean that you cannot be good defensively. He should also work on creating a team that can press effectively
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I think we mean the same thing. He has the players, but not the team.Tobi17 wrote:He doesn't need to create the team, he already has the team. All he needs to do is to create the mentality cause this present generation of players have all the talents necessary to win a major trophy (AFCON gold), we can't waste a budding team like this on the altar of conservatism.aruako1 wrote:Rohr has to create a team with a positive "We can win" mindset, not the current often-conservative mindset. The former does not mean that you cannot be good defensively. He should also work on creating a team that can press effectively
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Damunk,
I like the idea of a SWOT analysis. That certainly will make things more vivid about the team. It will also force us to think more deeply and perhaps honestly about the team and players.
I like the idea of a SWOT analysis. That certainly will make things more vivid about the team. It will also force us to think more deeply and perhaps honestly about the team and players.
Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
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Prof, it seems nobody wants to go that route.Enugu II wrote:Damunk,
I like the idea of a SWOT analysis. That certainly will make things more vivid about the team. It will also force us to think more deeply and perhaps honestly about the team and players.
Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
Each player, the team, the coach and the NFF can all be SWOTed, but they're all more interested in making sentimental statements and scoring cheap points.
Izzokay....
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Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
StrengthsDamunk wrote:Prof, it seems nobody wants to go that route.Enugu II wrote:Damunk,
I like the idea of a SWOT analysis. That certainly will make things more vivid about the team. It will also force us to think more deeply and perhaps honestly about the team and players.
Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
Each player, the team, the coach and the NFF can all be SWOTed, but they're all more interested in making sentimental statements and scoring cheap points.
Izzokay....
1. Competition for places
2. Correct blend of youth and experience
3. Stability (same manager since 2016)
4. Decent WLD record
5. Great attacking options
6. Relatively united camp
Weaknesses
1. Inconsistency (after over 5 years and 2 major tournaments we should be more consistent)
2. Midfield - creativity in midfield has been erratic
3. Central defenders - while Eling and Balogun are probably good squad players, they do not always inspire confidence
4. The sometimes over cautious approach of the manager
Opportunities
1. Integration of quality naturalised players
2. Establishment of a strong no 1 (Maduka)
3. The use of home based players where suitable
Threats
1. Poor defensive performances in recent games might cost us
2. Inability to play enough friendlies before the world cup
3. Reluctance to try new players
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Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
Strengths - Players
Weaknesses - Coach
Opps - Can improve dramatically by getting better coach
Threats - WOWOs inside and outside NFF celebrating mediocrity
Weaknesses - Coach
Opps - Can improve dramatically by getting better coach
Threats - WOWOs inside and outside NFF celebrating mediocrity
Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
Aruako,
Great start. I added my views in red.
Great start. I added my views in red.
aruako1 wrote:StrengthsDamunk wrote:Prof, it seems nobody wants to go that route.Enugu II wrote:Damunk,
I like the idea of a SWOT analysis. That certainly will make things more vivid about the team. It will also force us to think more deeply and perhaps honestly about the team and players.
Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
Each player, the team, the coach and the NFF can all be SWOTed, but they're all more interested in making sentimental statements and scoring cheap points.
Izzokay....
1. Competition for places
2. Correct blend of youth and experience
3. Stability (same manager since 2016)
4. Decent WLD record
5. Great attacking options
6. Relatively united camp
Weaknesses
1. Inconsistency (after over 5 years and 2 major tournaments we should be more consistent)
2. Midfield - creativity in midfield has been erratic
3. Central defenders - while Eling and Balogun are probably good squad players, they do not always inspire confidence
4. The sometimes over cautious approach of the manager
5. Lack of trophy
Opportunities
1. Integration of quality naturalised players
2. Establishment of a strong no 1 (Maduka)
3. The use of home based players where suitable
4. With quality players, opportunity to be more adventurous in play.
Threats
1. Poor defensive performances in recent games might cost us
2. Inability to play enough friendlies before the world cup
3. Reluctance to try new players
4. Player compensation/bonuses delayed
The difficulties of statistical thinking describes a puzzling limitation of our mind: our excessive confidence in what we believe we know, and our apparent inability to acknowledge the full extent of our ignorance and the uncertainty of the world we live in. We are prone to overestimate how much we understand about the world and to underestimate the role of chance in events -- Daniel Kahneman (2011), Winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics
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Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
Here's my SE TEAM SWOT
Strengths
1. Good depth to central and wide attacking options with minimal drop in quality
2. Full back/wing back options, minimal drop in quality
3. Young upwardly mobile goalkeepers a medium to long term strength,
4. Young squad in general, some with high likelihood of entering elite teams of Europe
5. Loyalty to one another and to coach responsible for capping bulk of team and having grown together
6. Genuine inter-personal friendships: Chukwueze & Osimhen; Aina & Iwobi; Abdullahi & Musa; Ekong & Balogun; Ndidi & Nacho.
Weaknesses
1. Team lacks creative midfield
2. 'Oyibo wall' the weakest link
3. Young keepers a short term weakness
4. Poor appreciation of and adaptation to the 'African game' by many of the FB players
5. Coach too conservative for the 'Nigerian game', hence attracting negativity towards the team and possibly undermining confidence
6. The NFF - Needs to up its game on all levels including PR. All 'minor' decisions have MAJOR implications for team moral and performance eg stadium choice, playing surfaces, transport, hotels
Opportunities
1. Potentially the new 'golden generation' by winning the next AFCON and surpassing WC Rd 2
2. By doing so, could make it a much easier choice for top Nigerian talent worldwide to opt to play for Nigeria
3. Probably already the top brand in Africa, they could attract major multi-million dollar sponsors if they get it right on the field
4. Could once again build a world-wide fan base and build on the already prominent profile of Nigeria's young music and film stars (Did anyone see the breathless young girls almost fainting after watching the SE players live in Lagos for the first time?)
5. Possibility of attracting a world-class coach to take us to 'the next level' despite the country's shortcomings.
Threats
1. The usual Nigerian habit of changing for change's sake i.e. our legendary '20/20 Vision'.
2. Refusal of coach to 'upgrade' players for misplaced loyalties
3. Losing the fans' support if felt to lack commitment etc
4. Foreign born vs local player debates become toxic with racial undertones
Strengths
1. Good depth to central and wide attacking options with minimal drop in quality
2. Full back/wing back options, minimal drop in quality
3. Young upwardly mobile goalkeepers a medium to long term strength,
4. Young squad in general, some with high likelihood of entering elite teams of Europe
5. Loyalty to one another and to coach responsible for capping bulk of team and having grown together
6. Genuine inter-personal friendships: Chukwueze & Osimhen; Aina & Iwobi; Abdullahi & Musa; Ekong & Balogun; Ndidi & Nacho.
Weaknesses
1. Team lacks creative midfield
2. 'Oyibo wall' the weakest link
3. Young keepers a short term weakness
4. Poor appreciation of and adaptation to the 'African game' by many of the FB players
5. Coach too conservative for the 'Nigerian game', hence attracting negativity towards the team and possibly undermining confidence
6. The NFF - Needs to up its game on all levels including PR. All 'minor' decisions have MAJOR implications for team moral and performance eg stadium choice, playing surfaces, transport, hotels
Opportunities
1. Potentially the new 'golden generation' by winning the next AFCON and surpassing WC Rd 2
2. By doing so, could make it a much easier choice for top Nigerian talent worldwide to opt to play for Nigeria
3. Probably already the top brand in Africa, they could attract major multi-million dollar sponsors if they get it right on the field
4. Could once again build a world-wide fan base and build on the already prominent profile of Nigeria's young music and film stars (Did anyone see the breathless young girls almost fainting after watching the SE players live in Lagos for the first time?)
5. Possibility of attracting a world-class coach to take us to 'the next level' despite the country's shortcomings.
Threats
1. The usual Nigerian habit of changing for change's sake i.e. our legendary '20/20 Vision'.
2. Refusal of coach to 'upgrade' players for misplaced loyalties
3. Losing the fans' support if felt to lack commitment etc
4. Foreign born vs local player debates become toxic with racial undertones
"Ole kuku ni gbogbo wọn "
Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
Damunk,
Not much to quarrel with your SWOT to be honest. My only gripes, after quick read (leaving it open for a second read LOL) is your #1 & #4 weaknesses. #1 is not really a weakness. The midfield, in my view, is not a huge problem at the moment. #4, I agree it is there at the start but I do believe these players eventually adapt. Think Iwobi and now both Ebuehi and Aribo. #4 Threat get as im be. I actually do not classify that as a threat but will rethink its wording as a weakness i.e. the uber focus on foreign-based weakens the team in the long run by limiting access to possibly useful talents.
Not much to quarrel with your SWOT to be honest. My only gripes, after quick read (leaving it open for a second read LOL) is your #1 & #4 weaknesses. #1 is not really a weakness. The midfield, in my view, is not a huge problem at the moment. #4, I agree it is there at the start but I do believe these players eventually adapt. Think Iwobi and now both Ebuehi and Aribo. #4 Threat get as im be. I actually do not classify that as a threat but will rethink its wording as a weakness i.e. the uber focus on foreign-based weakens the team in the long run by limiting access to possibly useful talents.
Damunk wrote:Here's my SE TEAM SWOT
Strengths
1. Good depth to central and wide attacking options with minimal drop in quality
2. Full back/wing back options, minimal drop in quality
3. Young upwardly mobile goalkeepers a medium to long term strength,
4. Young squad in general, some with high likelihood of entering elite teams of Europe
5. Loyalty to one another and to coach responsible for capping bulk of team and having grown together
6. Genuine inter-personal friendships: Chukwueze & Osimhen; Aina & Iwobi; Abdullahi & Musa; Ekong & Balogun; Ndidi & Nacho.
Weaknesses
1. Team lacks creative midfield
2. 'Oyibo wall' the weakest link
3. Young keepers a short term weakness
4. Poor appreciation of and adaptation to the 'African game' by many of the FB players
5. Coach too conservative for the 'Nigerian game', hence attracting negativity towards the team and possibly undermining confidence
6. The NFF - Needs to up its game on all levels including PR. All 'minor' decisions have MAJOR implications for team moral and performance eg stadium choice, playing surfaces, transport, hotels
Opportunities
1. Potentially the new 'golden generation' by winning the next AFCON and surpassing WC Rd 2
2. By doing so, could make it a much easier choice for top Nigerian talent worldwide to opt to play for Nigeria
3. Probably already the top brand in Africa, they could attract major multi-million dollar sponsors if they get it right on the field
4. Could once again build a world-wide fan base and build on the already prominent profile of Nigeria's young music and film stars (Did anyone see the breathless young girls almost fainting after watching the SE players live in Lagos for the first time?)
5. Possibility of attracting a world-class coach to take us to 'the next level' despite the country's shortcomings.
Threats
1. The usual Nigerian habit of changing for change's sake i.e. our legendary '20/20 Vision'.
2. Refusal of coach to 'upgrade' players for misplaced loyalties
3. Losing the fans' support if felt to lack commitment etc
4. Foreign born vs local player debates become toxic with racial undertones
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Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
We are already a great team. We are the currently the most dangerous team in Africa. We will win the nations cup to prove this. Mark my words...Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
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Re: Super Eagles - What Is The Road To Genuine Greatness?
Have EFCC arrest him
Damunk wrote:And thats it and all will be well?
What next?nanijoe wrote:FIRE ROHR....
You can't achieve anything until you believe you can
Damunk wrote:Much has been said in love and anger about our beloved team.
We are fans with extreme emotions and it is to be expected.
But now we have qualified for AFCON, I think we need to take a cold, hard and honest look and do a SWOT analysis of our individual players, our SE team as a whole, our coach and our governing body the NFF.
For perspective, we need to do it with a SPECIFIC goal in mind.
For me it is to meet an expectation of a World Cup S/F next year and an AFCON gold before that.
Who can get us there?
Who can meet the challenges and who can't hack it at that level?
Who is on an upward trajectory, who has plateaued and who is on a downward spiral?
What are the realistic options we have and what do we have to do to make the SE a credible threat on the world stage?
Foreign and local sentiments side, all loyalties shelved, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE?
"it is better to be excited now and disappointed later, than it is to be disappointed now and later." - Marcus Aurelius, 178AD
metalalloy wrote: Does the SE have Gray, Mahrez or Albrighton on our team or players of their caliber?