[WC2006] Cote d'Ivoire (1-2) Argentina ...FT (Droggles 82')

anikulapo · Post by **anikulapo** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:38 pm

In the end it was a simple matter of class and technical ability overcoming raw talent.

The Argies just seemed so much more composed. Their passing and running off the ball was so crisp and fluid. Their short passing game was also a beauty to behold. And when they got their chances, they buried them with lethal effect.

The Ivorians on the other hand just seemed to have too much gra gra in them. Instead of a simple deft touch, their passes seemed to heavy and with too much steam on them.

Everything was frenetic and disorganized. Instead of settling down and taking a balanced shot on goal, they either forced an unwise cross or hurried themselves into an unbalanced shot. Either way, I was pretty disappointed with the Ivorians.

Some of their players also showed a very low soccer IQ. I mean, I could count several times where a player should have passed himself out of trouble but would rather allow himself to be boxed into a corner and then try and dribble his way between two or three players, a play that usually resulted in the ball being stolen anyway.

Their midfield was also a joke. Riquelme who cannot handle pressure at all was given all day to set up shop and distribute the ball with no hassle at all.

I really felt sorry for Drogba who had to come back into midfield just to become part of the play. IV is the African country which has the talent and hopefully the moxie to do well in this tourney so I hope they can turn it around very soon.

realplayer · Post by **realplayer** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:44 pm

The Ivorien's played well but the officiating was poor and in my opinion biased as expected against the African side.

The second goal in my opinion was offside. I was shocked that the panel never had a good look at it and replays were avided. If it was a goal against England, I bet it would be highlighted over and over again.

The Argentines were VERY rough and the ref let them get away with all their antics.

Ivory coast must win their next game and I pray they have a better ref for their next 2 games.

Altobelli · Post by **Altobelli** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:46 pm

Tizie was awful! I hope this was just a bad night for him!

elerineye wrote:
DAgrin wrote:Who agrees that Tizie is an aweful goalkeeper?
ONLY Ayo no gree o, everybodi else agree say di bobo pass useless sef.

Riche007 · Post by **Riche007** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:46 pm

realplayer wrote:The Ivorien's played well but the officiating was poor and in my opinion biased as expected against the African side.

The second goal in my opinion was offside. I was shocked that the panel never had a good look at it and replays were avided. If it was a goal against England, I bet it would be highlighted over and over again.

The Argentines were VERY rough and the ref let them get away with all their antics.

Ivory coast must win their next game and I pray they have a better ref for their next 2 games.

I dont think the 2nd goal was offside. There was definitely an Argentine player who was offside but he did not interfer with play.

green4life · Post by **green4life** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:17 pm

This game was lost by the CIV coaching staff. he should have gone with DD as the lone striker, 3 kard working MF's and 2 wide MF's with blazinf speed/skiill combo. Yaya, Zokora + ?? should have played centrally in ball winning type roles. Dindane should have started wide left in MF while perhaps any one of the Kone bros should have started wide right. It would not have made for a pretty game but at the end of the day only the scoreline matters. If you don't crowd the argie's in MF, practice the drill on how to pick the ball out of your net. Argie was certain of this game once they went ahead 2-0.... and their subs pattern betrayed this considering that neither tevez nor messi was deployed in the game.

Post by **Robbynice** » Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:23 pm

Altobelli wrote:Tizie was awful! I hope this was just a bad night for him!

elerineye wrote:
DAgrin wrote:Who agrees that Tizie is an aweful goalkeeper?
ONLY Ayo no gree o, everybodi else agree say di bobo pass useless sef.

Ol'boy did you watch the ANC? Tizie was awful then and still awful now.

mlkama · Post by **mlkama** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:06 am

What is embarassing is the arrogance of the Argentines before and during this game. CIV was completely outthought and outclassed. Their inexperience was woefully exposed.

green4life wrote:This game was lost by the CIV coaching staff. he should have gone with DD as the lone striker, 3 kard working MF's and 2 wide MF's with blazinf speed/skiill combo. Yaya, Zokora + ?? should have played centrally in ball winning type roles. Dindane should have started wide left in MF while perhaps any one of the Kone bros should have started wide right. It would not have made for a pretty game but at the end of the day only the scoreline matters. If you don't crowd the argie's in MF, practice the drill on how to pick the ball out of your net. Argie was certain of this game once they went ahead 2-0.... and their subs pattern betrayed this considering that neither tevez nor messi was deployed in the game.

tfco · Post by **tfco** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:08 am

Robbynice wrote:
Altobelli wrote:Tizie was awful! I hope this was just a bad night for him!

elerineye wrote:
DAgrin wrote:Who agrees that Tizie is an aweful goalkeeper?
ONLY Ayo no gree o, everybodi else agree say di bobo pass useless sef.
Ol'boy did you watch the ANC? Tizie was awful then and still awful now.

Can someone please explain what JJT did to be awful

Riche007 · Post by **Riche007** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:16 am

tfco wrote:
Robbynice wrote:
Altobelli wrote:Tizie was awful! I hope this was just a bad night for him!

elerineye wrote:
DAgrin wrote:Who agrees that Tizie is an aweful goalkeeper?
ONLY Ayo no gree o, everybodi else agree say di bobo pass useless sef.
Ol'boy did you watch the ANC? Tizie was awful then and still awful now.
Can someone please explain what JJT did to be awful

To answer your question, based on today's games and goal keeper performances, who wud u have on your team? Tizie (CIV) or Hislop (TT)?

tfco · Post by **tfco** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:32 am

Riche007 wrote:
tfco wrote:
Robbynice wrote:
Altobelli wrote:Tizie was awful! I hope this was just a bad night for him!

elerineye wrote:
DAgrin wrote:Who agrees that Tizie is an aweful goalkeeper?
ONLY Ayo no gree o, everybodi else agree say di bobo pass useless sef.
Ol'boy did you watch the ANC? Tizie was awful then and still awful now.
Can someone please explain what JJT did to be awful
To answer your question, based on today's games and goal keeper performances, who wud u have on your team? Tizie (CIV) or Hislop (TT)?

you did not answer.

What did Tizie do wrong? Am not focusing on Hislop.

green4life · Post by **green4life** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:34 am

bros,I no go lie... as I was watching this game, it hit me that this is the sort of game that Cameroon would have done well in. Your boys would have disrupted the pace & timing of the argie passing flow with timely phisical tackles in MF. Riquelme would have sweated his asss off. I was just fustrated cause I know that CIV has the personnel to beat argie.

mlkama wrote:What is embarassing is the arrogance of the Argentines before and during this game. CIV was completely outthought and outclassed. Their inexperience was woefully exposed.

green4life wrote:This game was lost by the CIV coaching staff. he should have gone with DD as the lone striker, 3 kard working MF's and 2 wide MF's with blazinf speed/skiill combo. Yaya, Zokora + ?? should have played centrally in ball winning type roles. Dindane should have started wide left in MF while perhaps any one of the Kone bros should have started wide right. It would not have made for a pretty game but at the end of the day only the scoreline matters. If you don't crowd the argie's in MF, practice the drill on how to pick the ball out of your net. Argie was certain of this game once they went ahead 2-0.... and their subs pattern betrayed this considering that neither tevez nor messi was deployed in the game.

Gboye777 · Post by **Gboye777** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:38 am

tfco wrote:
Robbynice wrote:
Altobelli wrote:Tizie was awful! I hope this was just a bad night for him!

elerineye wrote:
DAgrin wrote:Who agrees that Tizie is an aweful goalkeeper?

ONLY Ayo no gree o, everybodi else agree say di bobo pass useless sef.
Ol'boy did you watch the ANC? Tizie was awful then and still awful now.
Can someone please explain what JJT did to be awful

He fumbled the ball several times. Two of those fumbles resulted in goals though the first was disallowed.

Coach · Post by **Coach** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:41 am

Argentina go hear wen!!!

...In all fairness, it was a good effort from CIV, but as expected, the know-how prevailed ahead of the inexperience!

elerineye · Post by **elerineye** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:51 am

Altobelli wrote:Tizie was awful! I hope this was just a bad night for him!

elerineye wrote:
DAgrin wrote:Who agrees that Tizie is an aweful goalkeeper?
ONLY Ayo no gree o, everybodi else agree say di bobo pass useless sef.

It's not a question of bad night, this is how he keeps every game. The only time you won't notice is if he's not tested.

elerineye · Post by **elerineye** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:55 am

tfco wrote:
Riche007 wrote:
tfco wrote:
Robbynice wrote:
Altobelli wrote:Tizie was awful! I hope this was just a bad night for him!

elerineye wrote:
DAgrin wrote:Who agrees that Tizie is an aweful goalkeeper?
ONLY Ayo no gree o, everybodi else agree say di bobo pass useless sef.
Ol'boy did you watch the ANC? Tizie was awful then and still awful now.
Can someone please explain what JJT did to be awful
To answer your question, based on today's games and goal keeper performances, who wud u have on your team? Tizie (CIV) or Hislop (TT)?
you did not answer.

What did Tizie do wrong? Am not focusing on Hislop.

If you did not see what Tizie did today to be awfull, you should please hope that Adjei perform like he did, maybe then you'll see. BTW this is how Tizie perform every game.

realplayer · Post by **realplayer** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:00 am

The goalie was blameless for the 2 goals.

Riquelme was allowed too much freedom in the MF. I expected the Ivoriens to have closer and physical attention as the Argies did to Drogba.

The left winger held on to the ball too much and on many occasions dribbled himself into trouble. The quality of the crosses and corners were VERY poor from the Ivoriens.

If these lapses are resolved, then there is hope.

tfco · Post by **tfco** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:03 am

realplayer wrote:The goalie was blameless for the 2 goals.

Riquelme was allowed too much freedom in the MF. I expected the Ivoriens to have closer and physical attention as the Argies did to Drogba.

The left winger held on to the ball too much and on many occasions dribbled himself into trouble. The quality of the crosses and corners were VERY poor from the Ivoriens.

If these lapses are resolved, then there is hope.

...and when I ask what Tizie did wrong today, I do not get a straight answer.

Am I talking to politicians here?

asabe · Post by **asabe** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:05 am

Argentiina realized that Drogba was a threat and they did all to neutralize him. Similar attention should have been paid to Riquelme.

I have never been a fan of Henry Michel (he did not even celebrate when they score) and I hope they have enough talent to win inspite of lousy coaching and detached attitude of the coaches.

realplayer wrote:The goalie was blameless for the 2 goals.

Riquelme was allowed too much freedom in the MF. I expected the Ivoriens to have closer and physical attention as the Argies did to Drogba.

The left winger held on to the ball too much and on many occasions dribbled himself into trouble. The quality of the crosses and corners were VERY poor from the Ivoriens.

If these lapses are resolved, then there is hope.

elerineye · Post by **elerineye** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:07 am

tfco wrote:
realplayer wrote:The goalie was blameless for the 2 goals.

Riquelme was allowed too much freedom in the MF. I expected the Ivoriens to have closer and physical attention as the Argies did to Drogba.

The left winger held on to the ball too much and on many occasions dribbled himself into trouble. The quality of the crosses and corners were VERY poor from the Ivoriens.

If these lapses are resolved, then there is hope.

...and when I ask what Tizie did wrong today, I do not get a straight answer.

Am I talking to politicians here?

Why don't you just go and watch the game again like you said...

DAgrin · Post by **DAgrin** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:50 am

skillful wrote:
green4life wrote:
DAgrin wrote:
skillful wrote:kalou since he left auxxure has been rubbish
Kalou is obviously the best man on the pitch for the Ivory Coast.
Are you watching a different match?
we are watching diff games.
The bobo is definately watching another game they have just taken him off

and I still wonder why, the german commentator couldn't understand it either

YoungLion · Post by **YoungLion** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:12 am

Henri Michel's coaching career will be over after Ivory Coast gets eliminated. What were Baky, Dindane and Arouna doing on the bench in the first half? Why didn't Cote D'ivoire make better use of their right/left flanks to free up the middle and create more space for their front men? What was Kalou doing on the field all evening?
Was it just me or did Arouna forgot how to make a simple pass?
Never once did HM get off his #$% to direct his players. He did what he does best...shyly sit in hix box praying for a miracle.
Their game was too tight, their midfield inexistant, and their flanks practically empty. All they did was improvise in the Argentines' eighteen in the hopes of scoring. The World Cup's also where the best tacticians meet and Henri's Michel's definately not one of them.

tfco · Post by **tfco** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:57 am

elerineye wrote:
tfco wrote:
realplayer wrote:The goalie was blameless for the 2 goals.

Riquelme was allowed too much freedom in the MF. I expected the Ivoriens to have closer and physical attention as the Argies did to Drogba.

The left winger held on to the ball too much and on many occasions dribbled himself into trouble. The quality of the crosses and corners were VERY poor from the Ivoriens.

If these lapses are resolved, then there is hope.

...and when I ask what Tizie did wrong today, I do not get a straight answer.

Am I talking to politicians here?
Why don't you just go and watch the game again like you said...

I did
- JJT fumbled the header which was an "almost" goal. That was a powerful header btw

Now what else did he fumble?? You guys are killing me. I have watched the game twice and I saw 1 fumble. Anyone?

marko · Post by **marko** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:14 pm

just the typical african defences, get to world cup, screw up!!! trinidad showed everyone how to defend as a team, sweden are not argentina but still, all ivory coast did was attack with nothing to show for it

that match could have easily ended up in 2 all draw, now ivory coast are the looking at early exit!!!!! unless they get a result in their 2 next games, i believe they have the players, they just need to be disciplined