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by cic old boy
Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:51 pm
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

:rotf: :rotf: More rope to hang you. Let us forget that you compared the Paulista to those C and B teams. Perhaps you have forgotten that this where your fake GOAT Messi went to get "experience" and where he would score a massive 5 goals . :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: You forget that Pele scored ...
by cic old boy
Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:56 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: All opinion, no facts. :rotf: "Question marks" about Pele and Garrincha are opinions from uninformed fans, like those who think Okocha is better than Zidane. :rotf: See worthless opinion--"Neanderthal stuff", "rubbish argument..." "Mess...
by cic old boy
Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:35 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

Since you bring up speed .. You do Know that Pele could run the 100, in 11 seconds right ? While Messi, Mordern Training, Fitness Methods and all can only run same in 12 seconds . Furthermore, Pele's vertical leap was 48 Inches (Same as Michael Jordan's) while Messi's only Measures 41 Inches So on ...
by cic old boy
Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:32 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: See imagination and pure opinion. You are still talking about "best" when I already told you it cannot be measured across eras. We cannot have Pele and Messi play in the same league and the same time, and subject them to the same conditions. We can only look ...
by cic old boy
Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:12 pm
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: To respond to your kwia-kwia argument would mean rehashing all the smashing points I raised earlier. Whether or not they were "kwe-kwe" teams, Brazil was a world beater. Where have you ever seen a country that produced "kwe-kwe" teams go out and beat the wor...
by cic old boy
Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:05 pm
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

:biggrin: More desperate distortion. The point is that I have watched much more than 6 full Pele games. I have several on my hard drive and seen many more online. So your argument that nobody has seen full Pele games does not apply to me or anyone who has done their homework. :lol: That you have se...
by cic old boy
Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:13 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

Right. Garrincha the aimless dribbler was better than Pele. :rotf: :rotf: That is what you expect the crowd to say about his crowd-pleasing antics. :lol: Jay-Jay Okocha must be better than Messi too. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: Your arguments are wack my friend. I have the full 1958 Final on my hard drive...
by cic old boy
Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:12 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

:biggrin: See distortion due to desperation. :biggrin: I have watched several full Pele games for Brazil and Santos, so it is much more than the 1970 WC. :thumbs: And see goal post moving. :biggrin: You asked how many full Pele games I watched, and now you are claiming it is only 6 games. :lol: You...
by cic old boy
Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:38 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

This may be the documentary I referred to earlier. I have to watch it again to be sure.
by cic old boy
Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:35 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

:rotf: :rotf: Do your homework. :biggrin: Garrincha was ONE OF THE STARS. Pele, this 17 year old who was taken injured to the World Cup in an era in which there were no substitutions, recovered early enough to join the World Cup in the middle, and was Brazil's top scorer, and the second highest sco...
by cic old boy
Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:19 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

More meaningless quotes from Brian Clough of all people. :rotf: Abeg make we hear word jare. :biggrin: I have lost count of how many full match videos of Pele I have watched. I used to have the full videos of the 1970 Brazil games :thumbs: I had access to a video archive of full Santos games as wel...
by cic old boy
Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:11 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

:rotf: You named Gerson twice. :biggrin: Carlos Albarto was special for scoring one fabulous goal in the final? As we used to say back in the day, "And then....?" Wharrelse did he do? And what did Everaldo do? The back four of Everaldo, Brito, Wilson Piazza and Carlos Alberto was generall...
by cic old boy
Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:06 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

:lol: :lol: This bobo, you like meaningless quotes. There are tons of video records and statistics about Pele from the past. Why is that memory and not reality? And why is it not reality to say that Messi the choker could not win a WC to save his life in 4 tries and was unable to perform his club m...
by cic old boy
Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:32 pm
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

For the nostalgia freaks.
by cic old boy
Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:41 pm
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

You can find similar pictures of the entire team following Pele. :biggrin: :biggrin: Yet Pele was able to score. If the entire team is following you, pass off the ball. :biggrin: Even assist Messi no fit get. :lol: Too many excuses from Messi fan boys. Messi had world class players on the Argie tea...
by cic old boy
Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:29 pm
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

:lol: Tapinho Penaldo don suffer.
by cic old boy
Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:23 pm
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

You missed the memo that Messi tends to fade in key games where he is not surrounded by the World Class players he had at Barcelona. You missed the memo that Messi was lousy in that 2014 final, and was also very lousy against that same German team that knocked Argentina out in 2010. Why can't the &...
by cic old boy
Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:41 am
Forum: WORLD FOOTBALL
Topic: Pele Has Passed On….
Replies: 28
Views: 289

Re: Pele Has Passed On….

Back in the day before the internet and videos, my Dad bought me this book and I was mesmerised by Pele and the yellow shirt of Brazil. Rest in power O Rei.
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by cic old boy
Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:38 am
Forum: WORLD FOOTBALL
Topic: Erling Haaland
Replies: 47
Views: 649

Re: Erling Haaland

He has played in the Norwegian, Austrian and German league. Yet, he couldn't destroy those leagues as much as he is destroying the english league. He was fantastic in those leagues, but the defenses in those leagues seem to be better prepared to defend against him. How poor is the english league? :...
by cic old boy
Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:21 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: Why is there no ABA organization?
Replies: 62
Views: 902

Re: Why is there no ABA organization?

Scipio Africanus wrote: Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:07 pm

It is indeed a feat to score 4 goals from 5 penalties awarded throughout the WC :laugh:
Another guy that measures performance on just goals.
by cic old boy
Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:18 am
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

Of course. He wins in an opinion vote (something regularly and uncritically dashed to him every year :biggrin: ) as opposed to actually winning the tournament :rotf: . He was a total dud in the 2014 final, stamping aimlessly around the pitch like a lost little boy. :lol: By the way, the "Playe...
by cic old boy
Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:37 pm
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: Why is there no ABA organization?
Replies: 62
Views: 902

Re: Why is there no ABA organization?

:biggrin: We no want make you follow. Keep loving your racist country and its midget "hero" who could only win a World Cup in his 5th effort after 4 ignominious failures :lol: , and could not even beat a 3rd string French team in extra time. :lol: Forever there will be an asterisk against...
by cic old boy
Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:35 pm
Forum: FIFA World Cup QATAR 2022
Topic: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT
Replies: 164
Views: 2028

Re: OFFICIAL- KING LEO IS DA GOAT

:biggrin: Don't mind cic with his sophistry. He is talking as if experience does not count in a player's growth, and confidently playing like a veteran at 17 is not astonishing (not to mention like a super-human veteran), but is the same as a 35 year old veteran playing like the veteran he is :lol:...