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Adams: Graham was better than WengerJune 10, 2011
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Arsenal legend Tony Adams claims that George Graham was a better coach than Arsene Wenger.


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Wenger has come under scrutiny of late, having failed to deliver a trophy to the Emirates for a sixth straight year, which has unsettled star players such as Samir Nasri and captain Cesc Fabregas.

However, it was still surprising to see Adams, one of the club's favourite sons, give a negative evaluation of arguably the club's greatest ever manager.

"No disrespect to Arsene, but George's coaching ability, defensive structure and technical ability, for me, is far better,'' Adams told the Daily Mirror. ''It's his strength, and that was George's particular strength. I think Wenger is a magnificent physiologist and psychologist. Those are the areas where he excels."

Adams, who is currently coaching in Azerbaijan, won two league titles under Graham and the Double twice under Wenger.

"Maybe not this year, but next season, I might have a chance of winning the Azerbaijan league title with Gabala and going into the Champions League qualifying rounds," he added. "We could even play Arsenal, but they are struggling to get in the top five now, aren't they? Who knows?''
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....

"“There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must take it because conscience tells him it is right.”

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Tony Adams is clearly back on the booze.
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kalani wrote:Tony Adams is clearly back on the booze.
Adams is a legend & booze or no booze he has a right speak on what is dear to him!
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These British boys sef, Merson came out the other day too to claim he was given a unknown substance/doped under Wenger.

Arsenal's achievements on and off pitch as a club under Wenger is there for all to see, we knew where we were under George Graham.
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Skylolo wrote:These British boys sef, same way Merson came out the other day to claim he was doped under Wenger.

Arsenal's achievements on and off pitch as a club under Wenger is there for all to see, we knew where we were under George Graham.
That's why I could never be an Arsenal fan :ohmy: What a bunch of ingrates! I don Talk am tire, Les Pussies don't deserve a coach like Arsene
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....

"“There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must take it because conscience tells him it is right.”

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Eaglezbeak wrote:
kalani wrote:Tony Adams is clearly back on the booze.
Adams is a legend & booze or no booze he has a right speak on what is sear to him!
Adams remains the greatest captain of Arsenal and Wenger is the greatest Arsenal coach of all time.
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If you take your time to read the interview properly, you will find he did not say that. Well, Wenger's record alone tells you he will be stupid too make such a comment.
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You buy hype...then get sucked in..i remember during the season while arsenal were having a hard time..some geezer phoned a radio station and said we need to hire Sam Allardyce..the hosts played along cos there's a lot of traffic in knock_Arsene themes
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did anyone read the actual quote?
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Molue Conductor wrote:did anyone read the actual quote?
Yes I did. He actually inferred that Wenger is not a coach but a caretaker (Psychologist and Physiologist)


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No disrespect to Arsene, but George's coaching ability, defensive structure and technical ability, for me, is far better,'' Adams told the Daily Mirror. ''It's his strength, and that was George's particular strength. I think Wenger is a magnificent physiologist and psychologist. Those are the areas where he excels."
Now let the insult parade on Tony Adams start :taunt: :taunt:
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anikulapo wrote:"Maybe not this year, but next season, I might have a chance of winning the Azerbaijan league title with Gabala and going into the Champions League qualifying rounds," he added. "We could even play Arsenal, but they are struggling to get in the top five now, aren't they? Who knows?''
The legend just threw his own a low blow.

Wow :shock:
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anikulapo wrote:"Maybe not this year, but next season, I might have a chance of winning the Azerbaijan league title with Gabala and going into the Champions League qualifying rounds," he added. "We could even play Arsenal, but they are struggling to get in the top five now, aren't they? Who knows?''
The legend just threw his own a low blow.

Wow :shock:
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Waffiman wrote:If you take your time to read the interview properly, you will find he did not say that. Well, Wenger's record alone tells you he will be stupid too make such a comment.
I read it.

I was GH guy. I still remember the continental trophy in 1993 - if my recalling ability on this is fair.

Tony Adams just said that Arsene is not as good an Xs and Os coach - that Arsene is just a glorified "Sociology 401 lecturer" masquerading as coach. And the evidence is there. Kudos to him on Henry and Viera. But the backbone of his small measured success Arsenal enjoyed early in his tenue was as a result of GH boys and foundation.

Post that tenure, what has he done? Shepherd kids and develop their fragile psyche? I call par.

PS. When you do not win, you tell the world who you really are :lol:
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Catalyst wrote: PS. When you do not win, you tell the world who you really are.
Theres only so long you can ask the judiciary to look through the windows of yesteryear and turn blind eye to the woes of today. Fact is, in 6 years Wengerism has failed to summount the obstacle before it. The same old ideas are being second guessed by the likes of West Brom and Birmingham and ridiculed by their peers. There comes a time when the fairytale reveals itself as no more than that. The coffee keeps brewing and slowly bute surely, brownian motion will introduce it to olfactory neurones far and wide. So dark the con of fan.
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Graham developed the legendary back four, which served as the basis upon which Wenger's doubles were built. I can see where Adams is coming from, considering his final season was the one where they won their last double. However, I doubt Graham would have had any of that success if he had stayed on as Arsenal manager
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http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/sports ... ene-wenger
Poll

Former Gunners captain Tony Adams has claimed George Graham was better than Arsene Wenger, but we want to know what you think...get voting

Who's the better Arsenal boss: George Graham or Arsene Wenger?
George Graham
22%
Arsene Wenger
78%
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says a lot when an English radio station where a high regard for Adams & loathing for the Frenchman exists in the audience deliver this result....one coach made us a global brand while another is Mr bung..but hey!!!
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I always wonder what JAZZ Arsene Wenger uses to keep so many fans on his side despite his uselessness over the past 6 years.

Before you know it, it would be TEN YEARS without a trophy, and they'll still be saying Arsene Wenger is the best coach for their team!!

I've never seen anything like it in football. Dude must be using some heavy Jazz mehn.
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I'll deal with figures as seen on Talksport poll results...you introduce babalawos and speculation ---oh damn!!!
If I give you a good wine, you will see how it tastes and after you ask where it comes from,'' ""To put players in my team who are not good enough will not strengthen the England team, and would weaken the Arsenal team.''The only thing I can say is that whenever England do not win it is always my fault,even when I am not at the game".Wenger said.
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ROSSIKE wrote:I always wonder what JAZZ Arsene Wenger uses to keep so many fans on his side despite his uselessness over the past 6 years.

Before you know it, it would be TEN YEARS without a trophy, and they'll still be saying Arsene Wenger is the best coach for their team!!

I've never seen anything like it in football. Dude must be using some heavy Jazz mehn.
Well Gooners are quite cognizant of the fact no AW=no Emirates, no academy, no global brand etc etc etc. Worst case scenario, even if AW exits the club tomorrow the Arsenal is in a fantastic position to excel in the decades to come. Arsenal have never been on par with likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Bayern Munich, Barca, Madrid, Inter, AC Milan etc etc etc. The task of reaching such a standard is enormous to say the least. AW time at the Arsenal will end sooner rather than later but in 20, 30, 40, 50 years from now Gooners will know the club will always be indebted to one Arsene Wenger.
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Tunisian Gooner wrote:
ROSSIKE wrote:I always wonder what JAZZ Arsene Wenger uses to keep so many fans on his side despite his uselessness over the past 6 years.

Before you know it, it would be TEN YEARS without a trophy, and they'll still be saying Arsene Wenger is the best coach for their team!!

I've never seen anything like it in football. Dude must be using some heavy Jazz mehn.
Well Gooners are quite cognizant of the fact no AW=no Emirates, no academy, no global brand etc etc etc. Worst case scenario, even if AW exits the club tomorrow the Arsenal is in a fantastic position to excel in the decades to come. Arsenal have never been on par with likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Bayern Munich, Barca, Madrid, Inter, AC Milan etc etc etc. The task of reaching such a standard is enormous to say the least. AW time at the Arsenal will end sooner rather than later but in 20, 30, 40, 50 years from now Gooners will know the club will always be indebted to one Arsene Wenger.

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Al-Waff, you say wetin :shock: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

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"No disrespect to Arsene, but George's coaching ability, defensive structure and technical ability, for me, is far better,'' Adams told the Daily Mirror. ''It's his strength, and that was George's particular strength. I think Wenger is a magnificent physiologist and psychologist. Those are the areas where he excels."

Waffiman wrote:If you take your time to read the interview properly, you will find he did not say that. Well, Wenger's record alone tells you he will be stupid too make such a comment.
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....

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tolahs wrote:http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/sports ... ene-wenger
Poll

Former Gunners captain Tony Adams has claimed George Graham was better than Arsene Wenger, but we want to know what you think...get voting

Who's the better Arsenal boss: George Graham or Arsene Wenger?
George Graham
22%
Arsene Wenger
78%
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
says a lot when an English radio station where a high regard for Adams & loathing for the Frenchman exists in the audience deliver this result....one coach made us a global brand while another is Mr bung..but hey!!!
If you know how these things work (statistics/polls of this nature), you will not put much into it.

Again is the poll question is silly. Was that what Tony Adams said?

I think Arsenal fans really overate Arsene. I do not think much of him - just another good coach. What he has done - on or off the field could have been replicated easily. The other ingredients are already there. Worst case scenario, a wealthy owner would have come along to take care of things.

That said - Tony Adams was, more or less, highlighting each coach's strength. At least he could speak on this with authority better than any other person on earth. But I agree, that the timing is convenient - because Arsenal is struggling now on the green grass. Typical.
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