How good is Xtiano Ronaldo?

[Molue Conductor]

Cron7 is the best footballer in the world.. he scores and he scores goals that makes you go oh my worddddd.

i don't know why messi is wpoy... bobo isn't even better than inesta or xavi.. we've seen Argentina without xavi and inesta.. Ronaldo has done everything .. and bobo is about to win laliga

Messi scores more wonder goals than Ronaldo IMO. In terms of stats

La Liga:
Ronaldo: 33 games 41 goals, 11 assists 228 shots
Messi : 32 games 41 goals, 13 assists 172 shots

CL:
Ronaldo: 08 games 08 goals, 02 assists 59 shots
Messi : 09 games 14 goals, 04 assists 64 shots

[kolinzo]

C-Ron is one striker i wouldn't want to play for my team! Give me real Ronaldo any time any day!

[YemiBrazil]

C-Ron is one striker i wouldn't want to play for my team! Give me real Ronaldo any time any day!

Opakslinzo, I don't think C-Ron is interested in your Sunday afternoon 3-a-side big belle united football .

[Molue Conductor]

C-Ron is one striker i wouldn't want to play for my team! Give me real Ronaldo any time any day!

Opakslinzo, I don't think C-Ron is interested in your Sunday afternoon 3-a-side big belle united football .

[tfco]

C-Ron is one striker i wouldn't want to play for my team! Give me real Ronaldo any time any day!

and which MLS S*ccer team are we talking about???

[Heliopolis]

Cristiano Ronaldo is already an all time great that has already achieved it all at the club level. He is easily the 2nd best player in the world today. What he needs to do is become a less selfish player on and off the ball. To his credit, he has come a very long way in terms of selflessness with the ball since his early days with Manchester United. Nowadays, it is no longer a surprise to see Ronaldo pass the ball. Where he needs to improve however is his work rate when he does not have the ball. Often times he is wandering around doing nothing without the ball. In his defense, Mourinho usually plays him deep up the pitch for counter-attacking purposes and also to prevent opposing fullbacks from marauding forward. On the other hand, Ronaldo can sometimes be found sulking and doing nothing when things arent going his way (i.e. his performances vs Barca over the past 3 years is a perfect example).

While I dont want to compare him to Messi too much, one of the major differences between the two is determination. Yes, Ronaldo is one of the most determined players on the planet but he does not have the drive that Messi does. Messi plays hard for 90+ minutes of every single match and runs as hard in the dying minutes of a match as he does in the opening moments. Messi pressures opposing defenders relentlessly. Ronaldo's work rate is not as consistent as Messi's over a 90 minute span.

If Ronaldo were to retire today he'd easily rank amongst the top footballers ever. Top 10/15/20? It's still too early to tell. I dont think its fair to criticize him too much for his Portugal short comings since he does not have much help in the Portugal attack. When was the last time Portugal had a top striker? (sorry, Pauleta doesnt count). All opposing teams have to do when playing Portugal is key in on Ronaldo and 80% of Portugal's attacking threat is mitigated.

[kofi86]

Cristiano Ronaldo is already an all time great that has already achieved it all at the club level. He is easily the 2nd best player in the world today. What he needs to do is become a less selfish player on and off the ball. To his credit, he has come a very long way in terms of selflessness with the ball since his early days with Manchester United. Nowadays, it is no longer a surprise to see Ronaldo pass the ball. Where he needs to improve however is his work rate when he does not have the ball. Often times he is wandering around doing nothing without the ball. In his defense, Mourinho usually plays him deep up the pitch for counter-attacking purposes and also to prevent opposing fullbacks from marauding forward. On the other hand, Ronaldo can sometimes be found sulking and doing nothing when things arent going his way (i.e. his performances vs Barca over the past 3 years is a perfect example).

While I dont want to compare him to Messi too much, one of the major differences between the two is determination. Yes, Ronaldo is one of the most determined players on the planet but he does not have the drive that Messi does. Messi plays hard for 90+ minutes of every single match and runs as hard in the dying minutes of a match as he does in the opening moments. Messi pressures opposing defenders relentlessly. Ronaldo's work rate is not as consistent as Messi's over a 90 minute span.

If Ronaldo were to retire today he'd easily rank amongst the top footballers ever. Top 10/15/20? It's still too early to tell. I dont think its fair to criticize him too much for his Portugal short comings since he does not have much help in the Portugal attack. When was the last time Portugal had a top striker? (sorry, Pauleta doesnt count). All opposing teams have to do when playing Portugal is key in on Ronaldo and 80% of Portugal's attacking threat is mitigated.

You would be shocked to see how many km Messi averages a game. It is something between 7-8 I always wondered how he can play so many games EVERY single season with Olympics, World Cups and Copas between the seasons and that is an explanation.

Ronaldo is a bomb of a player, but I am beginning to doubt whether he is the second best. Iniesta is a bomb player, too, but he also makes his mates look better which is not the case with Ronaldo.

And I am not sure whether Ronaldo will be an all time great.

[Super Eagle]

The funny thing is that anytime you talk about Messi, all these Real Madrid fans would start ranting about Xavi and Iniesta (even though that Iniesta has been off form all season long). Yet when you talk about C. Ronaldo, nobody talks about DiMaria, Mesut Ozil, and Xabi Alonso (arguably the best holding midfielder in the world).

[chopachop]

C Ron is my man but he just cannot cut it at NT level.

2 World Cup goals for C Ron
1 WC goal for Messi...and these are the 2 best players in the world???????????

Against which team and in which WC ?

[Killa Adjei]

C Ron is my man but he just cannot cut it at NT level.

2 World Cup goals for C Ron
1 WC goal for Messi...and these are the 2 best players in the world???????????

Against which team and in which WC ?

Serbia in 2006

[YUJAM]

I've noticed one thing about C Ron. He seems to have problems with very mobile and highly skilled half backs such as Alves, Alaba, Lahm etc. He also doesn't seem to have too much success against quality CDs. Guys like Rami, Ruiz, Badstuber and Boateng (today), Puyol and Pique etc. I think the reason these CDs can control him is because they don't jump into the tackle. Rather they seem to wait for him to show the ball before they step in or often times, they will time their attack to coincide with the arrival of the ball. Messi on the other hand may have a tough time against these type of players but he does a better job of adjusting to their tactics than C Ron. For example, he may start collecting the ball deeper or adjust the angle of attack. Just an observation

C Ron is my man but he just cannot cut it at NT level.

2 World Cup goals for C Ron
1 WC goal for Messi...and these are the 2 best players in the world???????????

Against which team and in which WC ?

[ohsee]

C Ron is my man but he just cannot cut it at NT level.

2 World Cup goals for C Ron
1 WC goal for Messi

...and these are the 2 best players in the world???????????

And spaztica wants to say that Messi is the best of all time?
Anyway, truth be told, Messi is better, way better, than that poseur called fake Ronaldo.

[airwolex]

I disagree with people saying that they don't have to do it for their NT's to be rated amongst the true greats. Says who?

People like Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo De Lima, Ronaldinho have set the standard.

Even lesser types like Hagi, Hristo Stoichkov, Henry, Baggio have been able to put their NT's on their shoulders and get the job done.

Frankly whether you guys like it or not, If the likes of Messi, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovich fail to do great things for their NT they will always have that stigma of being Club players.

Messi in particular has no excuse, he's on an ARgentine team brimming with talent and he's a bit special himself. If he doesn't do it then there will always be questions around him fullstop!

[airwolex]

C Ron is my man but he just cannot cut it at NT level.

2 World Cup goals for C Ron
1 WC goal for Messi

...and these are the 2 best players in the world???????????

And spaztica wants to say that Messi is the best of all time?
Anyway, truth be told, Messi is better, way better, than that poseur called fake Ronaldo.

I believe Spastic just started getting trully interested in footy recently. You know what they say about converts, they tend to be the most fanatical.

[kofi86]

I disagree with people saying that they don't have to do it for their NT's to be rated amongst the true greats. Says who?

People like Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo De Lima, Ronaldinho have set the standard.

Even lesser types like Hagi, Hristo Stoichkov, Henry, Baggio have been able to put their NT's on their shoulders and get the job done.

Frankly whether you guys like it or not, If the likes of Messi, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovich fail to do great things for their NT they will always have that stigma of being Club players.

Messi in particular has no excuse, he's on an ARgentine team brimming with talent and he's a bit special himself. If he doesn't do it then there will always be questions around him fullstop!

Portugal has more talent than Argentina. Argentina only has strikers.

[airwolex]

I disagree with people saying that they don't have to do it for their NT's to be rated amongst the true greats. Says who?

People like Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo De Lima, Ronaldinho have set the standard.

Even lesser types like Hagi, Hristo Stoichkov, Henry, Baggio have been able to put their NT's on their shoulders and get the job done.

Frankly whether you guys like it or not, If the likes of Messi, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovich fail to do great things for their NT they will always have that stigma of being Club players.

Messi in particular has no excuse, he's on an ARgentine team brimming with talent and he's a bit special himself. If he doesn't do it then there will always be questions around him fullstop!

Portugal has more talent than Argentina. Argentina only has strikers.

That's debatable but even so, he's got people like De Maria, Huguain, Tevez, Alguero, Zanneti, Cambiasso, Lavezzi etc. There was a report recently that Argentina has more players in D1 Europe than any other Country including Brazil.

They've not got great defenders but neither do the likes of Uruguay, Netherlands and even Germany. There's no reason why that Argentine team shouldn't be dominating.

[Al B Sure]

I disagree with people saying that they don't have to do it for their NT's to be rated amongst the true greats. Says who?

People like Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo De Lima, Ronaldinho have set the standard.

Even lesser types like Hagi, Hristo Stoichkov, Henry, Baggio have been able to put their NT's on their shoulders and get the job done.

Frankly whether you guys like it or not, If the likes of Messi, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovich fail to do great things for their NT they will always have that stigma of being Club players.

Messi in particular has no excuse, he's on an ARgentine team brimming with talent and he's a bit special himself. If he doesn't do it then there will always be questions around him fullstop!

Portugal has more talent than Argentina. Argentina only has strikers.

[Skylolo]

Ronaldo is a brilliant attacker but there is a glaring flaw in his game. He does not have a great "short game", he is fantastic when running with the ball, dribbling, shooting, heading etc etc but when it comes to simple & short one touch passes to move the opposition around to create gaps for himself and his team he is distinctly average. He is a bit similar to Gareth Bale in this regard, if you can condense the game; have little space between the lines and put a reasonably quick full back on him you limit the damage he can do because you limit the space he can run into. Dont get me wrong this works for all players but compared to the other great players in the game today Messi, Xavi, Iniesta it works to a greater extent on Ronaldo.

This explains why unlike Messi he cannot replicate his goal scoring heroics against the bigger sides, because they are more organized, compact and in certain cases can get close to matching his pace...against the smaller sides however the guy is deadly!

[tfco]

I disagree with people saying that they don't have to do it for their NT's to be rated amongst the true greats. Says who?

People like Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo De Lima, Ronaldinho have set the standard.

Even lesser types like Hagi, Hristo Stoichkov, Henry, Baggio have been able to put their NT's on their shoulders and get the job done.

Frankly whether you guys like it or not, If the likes of Messi, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovich fail to do great things for their NT they will always have that stigma of being Club players.

Messi in particular has no excuse, he's on an ARgentine team brimming with talent and he's a bit special himself. If he doesn't do it then there will always be questions around him fullstop!

Portugal has more talent than Argentina. Argentina only has strikers.

but both nations needed playoffs to qualify for SA2010

C Ron and Messi are club heavies...and that's it. Come Euro 2012, C Ron will fade just like Messi did last summer.

[asabe]

Ronaldo is a brilliant attacker but there is a glaring flaw in his game. He does not have a great "short game", he is fantastic when running with the ball, dribbling, shooting, heading etc etc but when it comes to simple & short one touch passes to move the opposition around to create gaps for himself and his team he is distinctly average. He is a bit similar to Gareth Bale in this regard, if you can condense the game; have little space between the lines and put a reasonably quick full back on him you limit the damage he can do because you limit the space he can run into. Dont get me wrong this works for all players but compared to the other great players in the game today Messi, Xavi, Iniesta it works to a greater extent on Ronaldo.

This explains why unlike Messi he cannot replicate his goal scoring heroics against the bigger sides, because they are more organized, compact and in certain cases can get close to matching his pace...against the smaller sides however the guy is deadly!

Kpom X infinity! Either you read my post from many years ago, but this is what I have been saying about C Ronaldo. He is only effective in one speed, while other great players like Messi are effective in speeds that can range from 0-10 with 0 being slow and walking and 10 being explosive speed and power. Ronaldo is effective in the 8-10 range.

[Maradona]

I disagree with people saying that they don't have to do it for their NT's to be rated amongst the true greats. Says who?

People like Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo De Lima, Ronaldinho have set the standard.

Even lesser types like Hagi, Hristo Stoichkov, Henry, Baggio have been able to put their NT's on their shoulders and get the job done.

Frankly whether you guys like it or not, If the likes of Messi, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovich fail to do great things for their NT they will always have that stigma of being Club players.

Messi in particular has no excuse, he's on an ARgentine team brimming with talent and he's a bit special himself. If he doesn't do it then there will always be questions around him fullstop!

Portugal has more talent than Argentina. Argentina only has strikers.

but both nations needed playoffs to qualify for SA2010

C Ron and Messi are club heavies...and that's it. Come Euro 2012, C Ron will fade just like Messi did last summer.

You've come again with your garbage.
Where did Argentina need a "play-off" to qualify for SA 2010?

[kofi86]

I disagree with people saying that they don't have to do it for their NT's to be rated amongst the true greats. Says who?

People like Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo De Lima, Ronaldinho have set the standard.

Even lesser types like Hagi, Hristo Stoichkov, Henry, Baggio have been able to put their NT's on their shoulders and get the job done.

Frankly whether you guys like it or not, If the likes of Messi, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovich fail to do great things for their NT they will always have that stigma of being Club players.

Messi in particular has no excuse, he's on an ARgentine team brimming with talent and he's a bit special himself. If he doesn't do it then there will always be questions around him fullstop!

Portugal has more talent than Argentina. Argentina only has strikers.

That's debatable but even so, he's got people like De Maria, Huguain, Tevez, Alguero, Zanneti, Cambiasso, Lavezzi etc. There was a report recently that Argentina has more players in D1 Europe than any other Country including Brazil.

They've not got great defenders but neither do the likes of Uruguay, Netherlands and even Germany. There's no reason why that Argentine team shouldn't be dominating.

Drop Germany; a defence of Lahm, Badstuber, Hummels and Boateng as rb is very good.