Asamoah Gyan - case study in going for money over football ?

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lekanlij wrote:Asamoah Gyan made absolutely the right decision in my opinion - a top class footballer who has sought to maximise his earning potential.

He's also remained a top professional in spite of his decision - I don't think emunike would match his record at al ain.

Gyan is also the top African goal scorer in world cups I think - so he has delivered internationally as well as at club level even though he might not have played for prominent clubs.
KPOM. Above all, football is a profession and it is important to maximize your earning in such a career that is extremely short.
How about going for both - Eto, Weah, Drogba - who maximized their earnings as well as their trophy cabinets.
Gyan does not match the talent of any of the three players u mentioned.
...and so, he did the right thing and went for the doe
Kpom. Gyan is nowhere near a £227,000/week player in Europe. At best £60k - £80k /week so, in terms of finances, I agree he did the right thing.
Point taken. Cut your coat according to your size, I guess.
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green4life wrote:Ironically, UK Guardian unwittingly made a case for Gyan notwithstanding it wasn't their intention. The traditional approach holds that you chase trophies / glory and the money will come. This sort of alternative approach as exhibited by Gyan suggests that you can chase the cash before glory and still have a fulfilling career. I feel there are merits in both approaches. The fact that Gyan's pay has increased to 227k pounds per week is insane and proof that his system worked.
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Tbite wrote:
aykwes8 wrote:
Tbite wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
lekanlij wrote:Asamoah Gyan made absolutely the right decision in my opinion - a top class footballer who has sought to maximise his earning potential.

He's also remained a top professional in spite of his decision - I don't think emunike would match his record at al ain.

Gyan is also the top African goal scorer in world cups I think - so he has delivered internationally as well as at club level even though he might not have played for prominent clubs.
KPOM. Above all, football is a profession and it is important to maximize your earning in such a career that is extremely short.
That is a lame excuse. Top Footballers still earn FAR MORE than they need. Footballers do not go broke because of the short length of their careers. They go broke, because of poor planning and foresight.

Largely because many of them do not even come from the middle class to begin with. Many of them came from rags, so they do not have the educational or technical background to manage money.

You definitely do not need to be playing in some money league to make a career. That is absolutely absurd. If that were the case, then are we making an argument that football is not sustainable in its current format? That footballers are underpaid? And only retirement leagues are viable? Is that what you are saying?

PLEASE! Footballers are overpaid as it is! Just because they have poor financial skills, is not an excuse for chasing more money. For the ones that get injured....fine! But for the ones that have had 5-10 years already in the big time and still complain...well they simply need better financial advise.

Refer to Sunday Oliseh's Ted Talk. This is nothing but a case of Money Miss Road. Increasing their revenue, won't make them any more financially secure. They will blow the money, just as easily.

If the argument is about those that are in the mid level or low levels of football? When by and large those ones are not even noticed by the retirement leagues anyway! The only ones sought after by retirement leagues, are essentially the ones that DO NOT need to go there.
AT the end of the day he chose what is right for him. don't act like if u were in his shoes you won't do the same. stop being a hypcrite
yes and if I did that..I too would be doing the wrong thing.

There is FAR FAR FAR more money in football as is than there should be. Don't give this nonsense about the length of their careers. Ontop of their salaries, many of them even get bonuses and endorsement deals.

Any footballer in the Top Flight, should not be going broke..period! Unless they have poor financially skills. And if that is the case, more money may not even help! More money, more problems! If you do not know how to manage money..what will more money do for you?

If we have people that come into football and do not give anywhere near back as much as what they get..they we have an inequitable system. Footballers are not Gods! We do not owe them anything. They have to come to the stadium and lay it all out. I hate this era of footballers that think we owe them something. In the past, you had real legends that laid it all out on the pitch. Now all we have are primadonnas.

You now even have leagues who specialize solely in pay packages? The likes of Eusebio would be rolling in their graves. Retirement Leagues? Seriously? What is the World coming to. The entertainment industry is a farce.

Bros,

Gyan is not there to please fans. This is HIS JOB. He is there to make money and let the fans dream about big clubs, laurels, etc. There is no amount of money that is too much for a footballer. First, a footballer's career is very short and not like an Engineer or a Medical Doctor. Secondly, they rarely collect pension and the like. In such a career, you must maximize your earnings. That is the most sensible (Not sentimental) thing to do. For you to state that they are overpaid is simply ridiculous. By what calculation did you arrive at such a conclusion? I will like to know.
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Tbite wrote:
aykwes8 wrote:
Tbite wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
lekanlij wrote:Asamoah Gyan made absolutely the right decision in my opinion - a top class footballer who has sought to maximise his earning potential.

He's also remained a top professional in spite of his decision - I don't think emunike would match his record at al ain.

Gyan is also the top African goal scorer in world cups I think - so he has delivered internationally as well as at club level even though he might not have played for prominent clubs.
KPOM. Above all, football is a profession and it is important to maximize your earning in such a career that is extremely short.
That is a lame excuse. Top Footballers still earn FAR MORE than they need. Footballers do not go broke because of the short length of their careers. They go broke, because of poor planning and foresight.

Largely because many of them do not even come from the middle class to begin with. Many of them came from rags, so they do not have the educational or technical background to manage money.

You definitely do not need to be playing in some money league to make a career. That is absolutely absurd. If that were the case, then are we making an argument that football is not sustainable in its current format? That footballers are underpaid? And only retirement leagues are viable? Is that what you are saying?

PLEASE! Footballers are overpaid as it is! Just because they have poor financial skills, is not an excuse for chasing more money. For the ones that get injured....fine! But for the ones that have had 5-10 years already in the big time and still complain...well they simply need better financial advise.

Refer to Sunday Oliseh's Ted Talk. This is nothing but a case of Money Miss Road. Increasing their revenue, won't make them any more financially secure. They will blow the money, just as easily.

If the argument is about those that are in the mid level or low levels of football? When by and large those ones are not even noticed by the retirement leagues anyway! The only ones sought after by retirement leagues, are essentially the ones that DO NOT need to go there.
AT the end of the day he chose what is right for him. don't act like if u were in his shoes you won't do the same. stop being a hypcrite
yes and if I did that..I too would be doing the wrong thing.

There is FAR FAR FAR more money in football as is than there should be. Don't give this nonsense about the length of their careers. Ontop of their salaries, many of them even get bonuses and endorsement deals.

Any footballer in the Top Flight, should not be going broke..period! Unless they have poor financially skills. And if that is the case, more money may not even help! More money, more problems! If you do not know how to manage money..what will more money do for you?

If we have people that come into football and do not give anywhere near back as much as what they get..they we have an inequitable system. Footballers are not Gods! We do not owe them anything. They have to come to the stadium and lay it all out. I hate this era of footballers that think we owe them something. In the past, you had real legends that laid it all out on the pitch. Now all we have are primadonnas.

You now even have leagues who specialize solely in pay packages? The likes of Eusebio would be rolling in their graves. Retirement Leagues? Seriously? What is the World coming to. The entertainment industry is a farce.

Please get off your high horse here. He doesn't play for anyone but himself and does what's best for him and his family. If he gets injured tomorrow and can't play anymore you wouldn't give him kobo, but rather insult him for not taking good care of his money.

I don't know exactly which country you reside in but you obviously left Nigeria for a reason. Why didn't you stay there and become like the Dangote's of this world?

Lets assume in your current job capacity if a company from Europe comes to offer you double what your earning presently and one from Asia comes and offers you 6x (six times) whatever your making now for a 2 year deal, are you telling me it will be wrong for you to take that offer? I hope your wife and kids don't find out you turned that money down because you felt it was wrong.
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lekanlij wrote:Asamoah Gyan made absolutely the right decision in my opinion - a top class footballer who has sought to maximise his earning potential.

He's also remained a top professional in spite of his decision - I don't think emunike would match his record at al ain.

Gyan is also the top African goal scorer in world cups I think - so he has delivered internationally as well as at club level even though he might not have played for prominent clubs.
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femibyte wrote:
ukwala wrote:
Rawlings wrote:
femibyte wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
lekanlij wrote:Asamoah Gyan made absolutely the right decision in my opinion - a top class footballer who has sought to maximise his earning potential.

He's also remained a top professional in spite of his decision - I don't think emunike would match his record at al ain.

Gyan is also the top African goal scorer in world cups I think - so he has delivered internationally as well as at club level even though he might not have played for prominent clubs.
KPOM. Above all, football is a profession and it is important to maximize your earning in such a career that is extremely short.
How about going for both - Eto, Weah, Drogba - who maximized their earnings as well as their trophy cabinets.
Gyan does not match the talent of any of the three players u mentioned.
...and so, he did the right thing and went for the doe
Kpom. Gyan is nowhere near a £227,000/week player in Europe. At best £60k - £80k /week so, in terms of finances, I agree he did the right thing.
Point taken. Cut your coat according to your size, I guess.
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lekanlij wrote:Asamoah Gyan made absolutely the right decision in my opinion - a top class footballer who has sought to maximise his earning potential.

He's also remained a top professional in spite of his decision - I don't think emunike would match his record at al ain.

Gyan is also the top African goal scorer in world cups I think - so he has delivered internationally as well as at club level even though he might not have played for prominent clubs.
How many goals has he scored and how many did Pa Milla score in 1990 ?
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Short career indeed, how many people will make what he gets paid weekly in a lifetime? If he ever gets broke, football was never the problem
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the guy is underrated joor Ghana highest goal scorer of all time, 6 world cup goals higher than etoo drogba
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I dislike the guy but can't blame his hustle.
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Enugu II wrote:
Tbite wrote:
aykwes8 wrote:
Tbite wrote:
Enugu II wrote:
lekanlij wrote:Asamoah Gyan made absolutely the right decision in my opinion - a top class footballer who has sought to maximise his earning potential.

He's also remained a top professional in spite of his decision - I don't think emunike would match his record at al ain.

Gyan is also the top African goal scorer in world cups I think - so he has delivered internationally as well as at club level even though he might not have played for prominent clubs.
KPOM. Above all, football is a profession and it is important to maximize your earning in such a career that is extremely short.
That is a lame excuse. Top Footballers still earn FAR MORE than they need. Footballers do not go broke because of the short length of their careers. They go broke, because of poor planning and foresight.

Largely because many of them do not even come from the middle class to begin with. Many of them came from rags, so they do not have the educational or technical background to manage money.

You definitely do not need to be playing in some money league to make a career. That is absolutely absurd. If that were the case, then are we making an argument that football is not sustainable in its current format? That footballers are underpaid? And only retirement leagues are viable? Is that what you are saying?

PLEASE! Footballers are overpaid as it is! Just because they have poor financial skills, is not an excuse for chasing more money. For the ones that get injured....fine! But for the ones that have had 5-10 years already in the big time and still complain...well they simply need better financial advise.

Refer to Sunday Oliseh's Ted Talk. This is nothing but a case of Money Miss Road. Increasing their revenue, won't make them any more financially secure. They will blow the money, just as easily.

If the argument is about those that are in the mid level or low levels of football? When by and large those ones are not even noticed by the retirement leagues anyway! The only ones sought after by retirement leagues, are essentially the ones that DO NOT need to go there.
AT the end of the day he chose what is right for him. don't act like if u were in his shoes you won't do the same. stop being a hypcrite
yes and if I did that..I too would be doing the wrong thing.

There is FAR FAR FAR more money in football as is than there should be. Don't give this nonsense about the length of their careers. Ontop of their salaries, many of them even get bonuses and endorsement deals.

Any footballer in the Top Flight, should not be going broke..period! Unless they have poor financially skills. And if that is the case, more money may not even help! More money, more problems! If you do not know how to manage money..what will more money do for you?

If we have people that come into football and do not give anywhere near back as much as what they get..they we have an inequitable system. Footballers are not Gods! We do not owe them anything. They have to come to the stadium and lay it all out. I hate this era of footballers that think we owe them something. In the past, you had real legends that laid it all out on the pitch. Now all we have are primadonnas.

You now even have leagues who specialize solely in pay packages? The likes of Eusebio would be rolling in their graves. Retirement Leagues? Seriously? What is the World coming to. The entertainment industry is a farce.

Bros,

Gyan is not there to please fans. This is HIS JOB. He is there to make money and let the fans dream about big clubs, laurels, etc. There is no amount of money that is too much for a footballer. First, a footballer's career is very short and not like an Engineer or a Medical Doctor. Secondly, they rarely collect pension and the like. In such a career, you must maximize your earnings. That is the most sensible (Not sentimental) thing to do. For you to state that they are overpaid is simply ridiculous. By what calculation did you arrive at such a conclusion? I will like to know.
Why would it be the most sensible thing to do? People are different and therefore are driven by different things (that dont have to be mutually exclusive).

I am not saying Gyan should have done this or that, but I acknowledge that there reasons for different decisions.
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