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Re: 'CONFIRMED: AKPOGUMA SWITCHES TO NIGERIA'
This view is becoming very tiresome to be honest. A lot of Nigerian kids born overseas (myself included) identify very strongly with Nigeria considering that racial discrimination faced growing up.ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be oyinbo
When these guys opt to play for Nigeria, there is a strong sense of having found a home in a lot of them and just stepping foot in Nigeria and people saying welcome home, might seem mundane, but it has a profound effect on a person. Trivialising this topic can become very toxic and potentially limit the growth of the team.
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Sometimes you just have to ignore the ignorance.ikemba_nacho wrote:This view is becoming very tiresome to be honest. A lot of Nigerian kids born overseas (myself included) identify very strongly with Nigeria considering that racial discrimination faced growing up.ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be oyinbo
When these guys opt to play for Nigeria, there is a strong sense of having found a home in a lot of them and just stepping foot in Nigeria and people saying welcome home, might seem mundane, but it has a profound effect on a person. Trivialising this topic can become very toxic and potentially limit the growth of the team.
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You sometimes are forced to think there's something else going on, something deeper, with all these guys that say stupid things like that.ikemba_nacho wrote:This view is becoming very tiresome to be honest. A lot of Nigerian kids born overseas (myself included) identify very strongly with Nigeria considering that racial discrimination faced growing up.ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be oyinbo
When these guys opt to play for Nigeria, there is a strong sense of having found a home in a lot of them and just stepping foot in Nigeria and people saying welcome home, might seem mundane, but it has a profound effect on a person. Trivialising this topic can become very toxic and potentially limit the growth of the team.
U have to feel sorry for them.
They got issues.
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Re: 'CONFIRMED: AKPOGUMA SWITCHES TO NIGERIA'
ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be [all foreign born]
AND, THE NFF MAY NOT KNOW IT NOW, BUT...
...it would leave no doubt to foreign observers that Nigeria lacks a meaningful youth development program, because the world knows that if one existed the team would be dominated by local youths.
Bell
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What's new?Bell wrote:ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be [all foreign born]
AND, THE NFF MAY NOT KNOW IT NOW, BUT...
...it would leave no doubt to foreign observers that Nigeria lacks a meaningful youth development program, because the world knows that if one existed the team would be dominated by local youths.
Bell
You think there haven't been dark discussion in high quarters and low quarters about how British/French/Italian sport in general has become dominated by "immigrants"?
You think there haven't been complaints about how "immigrants with funny names" i.e. Africans are filling up their national football youth teams, the full national team and even their top club sides?
You have forgotten how the French World Cup squads have forever been under constant barrage in sections of their press for fielding so many "immigrants" i.e. Africans
You think there wasn't a huge brouhaha when Gianluca Vialli's Chelsea fielded the first ever all-foreign EPL team line up (amongst whom was Babayaro) in '99, and six years later in 2005 Arsene Wenger's Arsenal fielded the first ever EPL all-foreign squad?
You think there aren't closet whingers and whiners bitching about how foreign managers absolutely dominate their elite league and even at one point were the only viable candidates for their national team?
In soccer, THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS VICTORY.
Nobody is going to remember the fine details of how it is achieved as long as it is legitimate.
Can you, for instance, name the 'foreign-born' Algerians that won the last AFCON?
Everyone is doing it one way or another and Nigeria which is actually not naturalising players, but fielding legitimate dual nationals, is self-criticising.
Even the 1.4 billion-strong Chinese are doing it and recently naturalised a Brazilian."Some national teams have been far from reserved in welcoming foreign born players into their ranks. Belgium adopted and adored the Croatian Josip Weber in the first half of the nineties and, more recently, his fellow countryman Branko Strupar - both were naturalized specifically for inclusion in the national team. Over the last six years Austria has created a little Croatian legion of four, Ivica Vastic being the best of them, and indeed the top Austrian player for several years.
Germany have looked much further afield to fill the attacking void created by the retirements of Klinsmann, Bierhoff and Kirsten. The list includes the Bobic (Slovenia), Rink (Brazil), Dundee (South Africa), Neuville (French Swiss), Asamoah (Ghana), Kurany (Hungary/Brazil) and the Klose and Podolski (both Polish). The Poland national team has responded by including the Nigerian Emanuel Olisadebe.
Sweden have included a number of players from South Eastern Europe, most prominently Zlatan Ibrahimovic."
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The choice of the word 'oyinbo' justifies your reaction but it is still a talking point that we are increasingly recruiting footballers who were born or grew up abroad. I'm not against this trend as I have constantly defended these players when their claim to Nigerian citizenship is attacked by some on this forum. Besides, if my British born son is lucky enough to be a good footballer, you can bet that I'll push for him to choose Nigeria.ikemba_nacho wrote:This view is becoming very tiresome to be honest. A lot of Nigerian kids born overseas (myself included) identify very strongly with Nigeria considering that racial discrimination faced growing up.ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be oyinbo
When these guys opt to play for Nigeria, there is a strong sense of having found a home in a lot of them and just stepping foot in Nigeria and people saying welcome home, might seem mundane, but it has a profound effect on a person. Trivialising this topic can become very toxic and potentially limit the growth of the team.
My worry is that the NFF is becoming so reliant on these players that it is not nurturing talent back home. We have seen the results of the NFF's U-13 initiative from a few years ago - players like Osimhen, Chukwueze, Iheanacho Nwakali etc.
It is in our interest that we keep both avenues for talent open.
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I don't see the Algerians, Ivoriens, Morrocans, even the French etc complain about tapping into the huge reservoir of their "foreign born" talents despite having relatively better leagues than ours... why should this even be an issue? I'm tired of you whining little girls on here honestly.aruako1 wrote:The choice of the word 'oyinbo' justifies your reaction but it is still a talking point that we are increasingly recruiting footballers who were born or grew up abroad. I'm not against this trend as I have constantly defended these players when their claim to Nigerian citizenship is attacked by some on this forum. Besides, if my British born son is lucky enough to be a good footballer, you can bet that I'll push for him to choose Nigeria.ikemba_nacho wrote:This view is becoming very tiresome to be honest. A lot of Nigerian kids born overseas (myself included) identify very strongly with Nigeria considering that racial discrimination faced growing up.ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be oyinbo
When these guys opt to play for Nigeria, there is a strong sense of having found a home in a lot of them and just stepping foot in Nigeria and people saying welcome home, might seem mundane, but it has a profound effect on a person. Trivialising this topic can become very toxic and potentially limit the growth of the team.
My worry is that the NFF is becoming so reliant on these players that it is not nurturing talent back home. We have seen the results of the NFF's U-13 initiative from a few years ago - players like Osimhen, Chukwueze, Iheanacho Nwakali etc.
It is in our interest that we keep both avenues for talent open.
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Re: 'CONFIRMED: AKPOGUMA SWITCHES TO NIGERIA'
ikemba_nacho wrote:This view is becoming very tiresome to be honest. A lot of Nigerian kids born overseas (myself included) identify very strongly with Nigeria considering that racial discrimination faced growing up.ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be oyinbo
When these guys opt to play for Nigeria, there is a strong sense of having found a home in a lot of them and just stepping foot in Nigeria and people saying welcome home, might seem mundane, but it has a profound effect on a person. Trivialising this topic can become very toxic and potentially limit the growth of the team.
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The world doesn’t think much of Africans anyway but they praise France (who would use a decent African despite their successful youth system) and don’t wonder about Switzerland who use Africans despite their exclusive citizenship outside of football,Nigeria needs to concentrate on youth development but needs to also find eligible players worldwide which isn’t not breaking FIFA rules (the youth teams where accused of breaking rules).Bell wrote:ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be [all foreign born]
AND, THE NFF MAY NOT KNOW IT NOW, BUT...
...it would leave no doubt to foreign observers that Nigeria lacks a meaningful youth development program, because the world knows that if one existed the team would be dominated by local youths.
Bell
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The first thing Pinnick did was to scrap the programme. Then reduce allowances paid to the junior team across board. When he was called his supporters went into hiding.aruako1 wrote: The choice of the word 'oyinbo' justifies your reaction but it is still a talking point that we are increasingly recruiting footballers who were born or grew up abroad. I'm not against this trend as I have constantly defended these players when their claim to Nigerian citizenship is attacked by some on this forum. Besides, if my British born son is lucky enough to be a good footballer, you can bet that I'll push for him to choose Nigeria.
My worry is that the NFF is becoming so reliant on these players that it is not nurturing talent back home. We have seen the results of the NFF's U-13 initiative from a few years ago - players like Osimhen, Chukwueze, Iheanacho Nwakali etc.
It is in our interest that we keep both avenues for talent open.
We know Pinnick agenda. He doesn´t believe in anything home grown or home made. 3 more years to go!
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I'm not sure that the Algerians, Moroccans and Ivorirns should necessarily be our role models in everything - we are historically more successful than them. For the French, I don't mind following their youth policy.Tobi17 wrote:I don't see the Algerians, Ivoriens, Morrocans, even the French etc complain about tapping into the huge reservoir of their "foreign born" talents despite having relatively better leagues than ours... why should this even be an issue? I'm tired of you whining little girls on here honestly.aruako1 wrote:The choice of the word 'oyinbo' justifies your reaction but it is still a talking point that we are increasingly recruiting footballers who were born or grew up abroad. I'm not against this trend as I have constantly defended these players when their claim to Nigerian citizenship is attacked by some on this forum. Besides, if my British born son is lucky enough to be a good footballer, you can bet that I'll push for him to choose Nigeria.ikemba_nacho wrote:This view is becoming very tiresome to be honest. A lot of Nigerian kids born overseas (myself included) identify very strongly with Nigeria considering that racial discrimination faced growing up.ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be oyinbo
When these guys opt to play for Nigeria, there is a strong sense of having found a home in a lot of them and just stepping foot in Nigeria and people saying welcome home, might seem mundane, but it has a profound effect on a person. Trivialising this topic can become very toxic and potentially limit the growth of the team.
My worry is that the NFF is becoming so reliant on these players that it is not nurturing talent back home. We have seen the results of the NFF's U-13 initiative from a few years ago - players like Osimhen, Chukwueze, Iheanacho Nwakali etc.
It is in our interest that we keep both avenues for talent open.
We should have the best of both worlds. My concern is that the NFF is not doing enough on the home from.
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Not good enough, would rather have Felix Uduokhai and Jordan Torunarigha.
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Felix Agu and Kingsley Ehizibue would bring more edge to our fullback slots.Tobi17 wrote:To be fair to him he was at least honest enough from the start that he was open to play for Nigeria even though Germany was his choice, seems like a cool lad and definitely a very decent player... good luck to him in his SE career.
The other German boys that have already switched are Jordan Torunarigha, Felix Uduokhai and I believe Felix Agu.
More options for us, world cup go sweet sha if we qualify.
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akpoguma is more talented than those two...Agu is on similar level.wale1974 wrote:Not good enough, would rather have Felix Uduokhai and Jordan Torunarigha.
give him a shirt.....he stinks up the place...bye bye....he is good.........why will anyone stand against it
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I tire for some people. More CBs means more depth. Balogun is aging so we need capable replacements. I am glad we are getting the German boys.Enyi wrote:akpoguma is more talented than those two...Agu is on similar level.wale1974 wrote:Not good enough, would rather have Felix Uduokhai and Jordan Torunarigha.
give him a shirt.....he stinks up the place...bye bye....he is good.........why will anyone stand against it
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Kevin Ofuoma Akpoguma Na Warri boy.. He is good for Nigeria.. He was the captain of the German U-20 National, helping the team reach the quarterfinals of the 2015 FIFA U-20 World Cup in New Zealand. No be moi moi to captain Germany...
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Tobi17 wrote:I don't see the Algerians, Ivoriens, Morrocans, even the French etc complain about tapping into the huge reservoir of their "foreign born" talents despite having relatively better leagues than ours... why should this even be an issue? I'm tired of you whining little girls on here honestly.aruako1 wrote:The choice of the word 'oyinbo' justifies your reaction but it is still a talking point that we are increasingly recruiting footballers who were born or grew up abroad. I'm not against this trend as I have constantly defended these players when their claim to Nigerian citizenship is attacked by some on this forum. Besides, if my British born son is lucky enough to be a good footballer, you can bet that I'll push for him to choose Nigeria.ikemba_nacho wrote:This view is becoming very tiresome to be honest. A lot of Nigerian kids born overseas (myself included) identify very strongly with Nigeria considering that racial discrimination faced growing up.ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be oyinbo
When these guys opt to play for Nigeria, there is a strong sense of having found a home in a lot of them and just stepping foot in Nigeria and people saying welcome home, might seem mundane, but it has a profound effect on a person. Trivialising this topic can become very toxic and potentially limit the growth of the team.
My worry is that the NFF is becoming so reliant on these players that it is not nurturing talent back home. We have seen the results of the NFF's U-13 initiative from a few years ago - players like Osimhen, Chukwueze, Iheanacho Nwakali etc.
It is in our interest that we keep both avenues for talent open.
It's not whining. He's making a very salient observation. He just expressed himself very poorly the first time. For Nigeria to reach her full potential, development of the talent at home can't be ignored.
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No one is standing against adding OUALITY players, but Felix Uduokhai and Jordan Torunarigha are way ahead of him in development and playing time.Enyi wrote:akpoguma is more talented than those two...Agu is on similar level.wale1974 wrote:Not good enough, would rather have Felix Uduokhai and Jordan Torunarigha.
give him a shirt.....he stinks up the place...bye bye....he is good.........why will anyone stand against it
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Purity wrote:Kevin Ofuoma Akpoguma Na Warri boy.. He is good for Nigeria.. He was the captain of the German U-20 National, helping the team reach the quarterfinals of the 2015 FIFA U-20 World Cup in New Zealand. No be moi moi to captain Germany...
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Why not load the team up with Local league boys and see how far we can googasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be oyinbo
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after dousing demselves well-well with wataDamunk wrote:What's new?Bell wrote:ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be [all foreign born]
AND, THE NFF MAY NOT KNOW IT NOW, BUT...
...it would leave no doubt to foreign observers that Nigeria lacks a meaningful youth development program, because the world knows that if one existed the team would be dominated by local youths.
Bell
You think there haven't been dark discussion in high quarters and low quarters about how British/French/Italian sport in general has become dominated by "immigrants"?
You think there haven't been complaints about how "immigrants with funny names" i.e. Africans are filling up their national football youth teams, the full national team and even their top club sides?
You have forgotten how the French World Cup squads have forever been under constant barrage in sections of their press for fielding so many "immigrants" i.e. Africans
You think there wasn't a huge brouhaha when Gianluca Vialli's Chelsea fielded the first ever all-foreign EPL team line up (amongst whom was Babayaro) in '99, and six years later in 2005 Arsene Wenger's Arsenal fielded the first ever EPL all-foreign squad?
You think there aren't closet whingers and whiners bitching about how foreign managers absolutely dominate their elite league and even at one point were the only viable candidates for their national team?
In soccer, THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS VICTORY.
Nobody is going to remember the fine details of how it is achieved as long as it is legitimate.
Can you, for instance, name the 'foreign-born' Algerians that won the last AFCON?
Everyone is doing it one way or another and Nigeria which is actually not naturalising players, but fielding legitimate dual nationals, is self-criticising.
Even the 1.4 billion-strong Chinese are doing it and recently naturalised a Brazilian."Some national teams have been far from reserved in welcoming foreign born players into their ranks. Belgium adopted and adored the Croatian Josip Weber in the first half of the nineties and, more recently, his fellow countryman Branko Strupar - both were naturalized specifically for inclusion in the national team. Over the last six years Austria has created a little Croatian legion of four, Ivica Vastic being the best of them, and indeed the top Austrian player for several years.
Germany have looked much further afield to fill the attacking void created by the retirements of Klinsmann, Bierhoff and Kirsten. The list includes the Bobic (Slovenia), Rink (Brazil), Dundee (South Africa), Neuville (French Swiss), Asamoah (Ghana), Kurany (Hungary/Brazil) and the Klose and Podolski (both Polish). The Poland national team has responded by including the Nigerian Emanuel Olisadebe.
Sweden have included a number of players from South Eastern Europe, most prominently Zlatan Ibrahimovic."
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Re: 'CONFIRMED: AKPOGUMA SWITCHES TO NIGERIA'
ikemba_nacho wrote:This view is becoming very tiresome to be honest. A lot of Nigerian kids born overseas (myself included) identify very strongly with Nigeria considering that racial discrimination faced growing up.ogasir wrote:Pretty soon the entire SE will be oyinbo
When these guys opt to play for Nigeria, there is a strong sense of having found a home in a lot of them and just stepping foot in Nigeria and people saying welcome home, might seem mundane, but it has a profound effect on a person. Trivialising this topic can become very toxic and potentially limit the growth of the team.
MAYBE YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT
Born overseas, I think Nigerians would welcome you with open arms if you want to embrace the land of your parents. They will accord you all the rights of somebody born in Nigeria, including the right to participate in the national teams. Heck, even to run for president.
Now answer this question: do you think it's fair and would make sense for the NFF to develop a meaningful youth program that would allow local youths to compete favorably with those outside the country? And that not doing so amounts to moral neglect?
Bell