Afcon 2025 moved to December

[King Futcha]

I really don’t know what the argument here is.

that is very apparent.

[1naija]

Go back and read all your posts on this thread and you will see that you are the one arguing in the empty room. Not one poster has agreed with your positions here. That's as empty a room as they come.

Even after I showed that more than 80% of the players that play at AFCON do not play in Europe, you still insist on saying you are talking about players and the "factors" they have to consider. And when I listed players that play in Europe that seem not to have the concerns you raised, you said they are not representative of all players in Europe. So, which phantom players and which phantom factors are you talking about?

I see why they say you can start an argument in an empty room.
I really don’t know what the argument here is.
1. You have conceded you don’t know whether they “worry” about it or not because it’s obvious you haven’t even considered enquiring.
2. I’ve told you I spoke to an African ex EPL player on this and other things and he gave his own experience as part of a wider experience he expanded on. Why do you readily ignore that? At least I have gone beyond just going on my feelings, or the feelings of only those that share my pov. I actually hope to speak with more of such people.
But you basically dismiss all that in your ultimate wisdom because you feel lit doesn’t fit your own narrative.

Then you make the giant leap of stating I would want to shift the AFCON “because of the EPL” and an “approval from Europe”
When did I get into that aspect of the discussion with you or anyone else? All my posts on this thread have been about players and the factors they have to consider when featuring in AFCON. I don’t know where you got your strawmen from, but no be me.

So I think we need to end it here and allow you enjoy your echo chamber.
Because none of what you are saying indicates you are willing or able to engage or appreciate anything other than your own PoV.

And how do you know they worry about it? The AFCON brand is growing. Its growth is not dependent on approval from Europe. Majority of the players that play in the tournament do not play in major clubs or leagues in Europe. It's only you EPL fans that worry about when AFCON is played.

How many top European club players play for Equatorial Guinea that topped our group? How many EPL players play for Guinea-Bissau, Cape Verde, Mozambique, Guinea, Gambia, Angola, Mauritania, Burkina Faso, Namibia, South Africa, Zambia, Tanzania, DR Congo? Yet you want AFCON to adjust its schedule to accommodate EPL eventhough majority of the players that play in the tournament don't play in the EPL or in top clubs in Europe.

[1naija]

And one more thing, Damunkey. Do you remember that almost all our players at this past AFCON got rousing receptions at their clubs when they got back?. Some of the clubs even displayed Nigerian flag colors in support of the players. If the schedule was such a problem, why would the clubs go to such an extent to support the players? It's only teams fighting relegation that complain about losing players.

[Enugu II]

Like I said, we are looking at all this strictly as fans.
For us, we are the most important ‘player’ in all this. This is all about our entertainment.

But has anyone ever asked what another important player - the professional African footballer himself - would prefer?
It’s their livelihood after all.
What do you guys reckon their preference would be?

Note the word ‘preference’.

I’m not asking what they would do or are already doing.

Damunk

As already pointed out to you, few players are impacted by this when you consider the totality of players at AFCON. Moreover, even the players you mention see AFCON as hiving them visibility for better contracts.

In any case, it is not just about players and fans. AFCON is the key tournament that funds development of African football. Playing it in the summer will put ut on collusion road against some other international tourneys which ultimately impacts revenue earning. Should Africa sacrifice that because of impact on a few players?

Unfortunately, CAF has often bent over to many times to Europe's demands even on detrimental terns to African interests.

[aruako1]

I see why they say you can start an argument in an empty room.
I really don’t know what the argument here is.
1. You have conceded you don’t know whether they “worry” about it or not because it’s obvious you haven’t even considered enquiring.
2. I’ve told you I spoke to an African ex EPL player on this and other things and he gave his own experience as part of a wider experience he expanded on. Why do you readily ignore that? At least I have gone beyond just going on my feelings, or the feelings of only those that share my pov. I actually hope to speak with more of such people.
But you basically dismiss all that in your ultimate wisdom because you feel lit doesn’t fit your own narrative.

Then you make the giant leap of stating I would want to shift the AFCON “because of the EPL” and an “approval from Europe”
When did I get into that aspect of the discussion with you or anyone else? All my posts on this thread have been about players and the factors they have to consider when featuring in AFCON. I don’t know where you got your strawmen from, but no be me.

So I think we need to end it here and allow you enjoy your echo chamber.
Because none of what you are saying indicates you are willing or able to engage or appreciate anything other than your own PoV.

And how do you know they worry about it? The AFCON brand is growing. Its growth is not dependent on approval from Europe. Majority of the players that play in the tournament do not play in major clubs or leagues in Europe. It's only you EPL fans that worry about when AFCON is played.

How many top European club players play for Equatorial Guinea that topped our group? How many EPL players play for Guinea-Bissau, Cape Verde, Mozambique, Guinea, Gambia, Angola, Mauritania, Burkina Faso, Namibia, South Africa, Zambia, Tanzania, DR Congo? Yet you want AFCON to adjust its schedule to accommodate EPL eventhough majority of the players that play in the tournament don't play in the EPL or in top clubs in Europe.

It is mostly about the fans, not the players. That is why we have Christmas fixtures in the Premier League even though the players prefer a break then.

[aruako1]

I see why they say you can start an argument in an empty room.
I really don’t know what the argument here is.
1. You have conceded you don’t know whether they “worry” about it or not because it’s obvious you haven’t even considered enquiring.
2. I’ve told you I spoke to an African ex EPL player on this and other things and he gave his own experience as part of a wider experience he expanded on. Why do you readily ignore that? At least I have gone beyond just going on my feelings, or the feelings of only those that share my pov. I actually hope to speak with more of such people.
But you basically dismiss all that in your ultimate wisdom because you feel lit doesn’t fit your own narrative.

Then you make the giant leap of stating I would want to shift the AFCON “because of the EPL” and an “approval from Europe”
When did I get into that aspect of the discussion with you or anyone else? All my posts on this thread have been about players and the factors they have to consider when featuring in AFCON. I don’t know where you got your strawmen from, but no be me.

So I think we need to end it here and allow you enjoy your echo chamber.
Because none of what you are saying indicates you are willing or able to engage or appreciate anything other than your own PoV.

And how do you know they worry about it? The AFCON brand is growing. Its growth is not dependent on approval from Europe. Majority of the players that play in the tournament do not play in major clubs or leagues in Europe. It's only you EPL fans that worry about when AFCON is played.

How many top European club players play for Equatorial Guinea that topped our group? How many EPL players play for Guinea-Bissau, Cape Verde, Mozambique, Guinea, Gambia, Angola, Mauritania, Burkina Faso, Namibia, South Africa, Zambia, Tanzania, DR Congo? Yet you want AFCON to adjust its schedule to accommodate EPL eventhough majority of the players that play in the tournament don't play in the EPL or in top clubs in Europe.

It is mostly about the fans, not the players. That is why we have Christmas fixtures in the Premier League even though the players prefer a break then.

[King Futcha]

And one more thing, Damunkey. Do you remember that almost all our players at this past AFCON got rousing receptions at their clubs when they got back?. Some of the clubs even displayed Nigerian flag colors in support of the players. If the schedule was such a problem, why would the clubs go to such an extent to support the players? It's only teams fighting relegation that complain about losing players.

he won't be back, we need this kind of forward thinking as we head to the sec

[1naija]

We will now have access to the same pro players that Alabama had all these years. The playing field is now equal.

And one more thing, Damunkey. Do you remember that almost all our players at this past AFCON got rousing receptions at their clubs when they got back?. Some of the clubs even displayed Nigerian flag colors in support of the players. If the schedule was such a problem, why would the clubs go to such an extent to support the players? It's only teams fighting relegation that complain about losing players.

he won't be back, we need this kind of forward thinking as we head to the sec